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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:09 PM Original message |
David Bonoir-Edwards Spokesman- "Ronald Reagan Conned The Middle Class..." |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Has absolutely nothing to do with what Obama said. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I Am Just Quoting The Former Congressperson |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That was my response to him. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. He Had A Lot More To Say |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. OUCH |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. His Tone Surprised Me |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. Deceptive isn't even the word to use here...... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I Quoted Bonoir Verbatim |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is perfectly teed up for Obama |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Isn't the "Reagan Revolution" already over? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Hardly |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Bush already sold us on big government. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Big military is not big government |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Leave No Child Behind is HUGE. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. So Bush was a good Democrat, in your eyes? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. What? No... I was just addressing your point |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. "Reagan's Son" - was a big article in NY Times about W. And he surely tried |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
64. Reagan of left...? NOT! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. People have to lie to beat Obama |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. "I hope they've thought their attack on Reagan through completely" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. easy does it, now |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. That opportunity went out the window weeks ago n/t |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. bring it back in, then |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. That's disgusting. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. He's the one that can win the south |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Rationalize your smear if you must. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. And saying Obama has made Reagan into an icon is vile as well |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yeah, it's exactly the same kind of thing. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yes it exactly IS, people need to stop lying n/t |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Dear Lord -- can this get any lower? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Reagan split the party by appealing to racists |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. I feel that as a personal insult.. I think we are owed an apology. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh, but it's okay to make ridiculous smears about Obama |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I never "smeared" Obama. I've not really talked about this issue much. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Then maybe you should read what is being said |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. "How does "conned the middle class" mean "appealing to racists"? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Reagan's southern strategy |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I understand that! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Well then read more threads |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. "Supporting Edwards has nothing to do with him being a white male from the south" |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I was speaking for myself personally... |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I think it's important to distinguished between... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I think race may be a factor for some people but for me it isn't... |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. How DARE you. That's just tripe. Is this what happens when you get hit by the BAM!? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. This is what is being said about Obama supporters |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. That's not how your slur was directed. Surely you have a better argument than this. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. THIS thread is in response to Edwards' spokesman |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. That is not what is being said... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. I resent that. Your comment is way over the line. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. But lying about Obama praising Reagan is okay? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. Good catch, jsamuel. We need to keep our eye on the prize |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Sandnsea, if we have to make Reagan an icon to win the Presidency - I don't WANT it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Nobody made Reagan an icon, it's a lie |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. Edwards is done in the South with Obama getting 70% black support |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Edwards is changing tactics - interesting. And totally agree with Bonior. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. yeah, he really ripped into him |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You Saw It |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. no, you weren't |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Election wins are based on exploiting racism, nationalism - not abstract tecniques |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. Wow. This may have just been brilliant strategy by Obama. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. all the pro-reagan democrats voters? Or rather dirty tricks GOP-ers voting in Dem |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. He said he wants to change the trajectory of the country |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. He wrote in his book that Raygun was right, liberals were wrong! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. That was what Reagan was able to do |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
29. RAYGUN WAS A MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CON-MAN THRU AND THRU |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well hell freezes over, |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Why? n/t |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. Is Obama conning them (Indies & Republicans) or us?? |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Obama can only con the Cognitive Dissonance |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
72. Bonior said what every Democrat should be saying about Regan |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Yep. nt |
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