Obama wins Nevada -- for real.

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firstread.msnbc.msn.com —

While Clinton did edge out Obama in the popular vote by 6%, she only did so by capturing the populous Las Vegas area. Obama won broader support statewide, especially in the more rural areas that Democrats usually flounder in, and thus earned more state delegates than Clinton. Obama is now two delegates ahead of Clinton, and closest to nomination. Billary knows this as well...

[Renew Deal]

1. Sign of things to come in November?

Seems so.

[LostinVA]

2. "Billary" is a RW slur and against DU rules

And, Clinton won NV.

[Imagevision]

6. Clinton won NV?

not delegate wise --> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_wins_Nevada_for_real

[Tellurian]

9. Hillary will get all 25 delegates..

[Joe the Revelator]

12. What kind of magic world do you live in, where facts don't matter?

Unless Obama drops out before the covention, she will get 12 delegates from Nevada.

[Tellurian]

17. The delegates themselves decide who is their best bet..

for the nomination..

[slick8790]

19. And they'll decide on Obama.

And Clinton's gonna win Iowa's delegates too because they'll choose to support her as their best bet now, right?

[Tellurian]

21. I don't know about Iowa, but the Nevada delegates will ultimately go to Clinton..

[slick8790]

25. Why's that, pray tell?

[JackORoses]

29. you are not telling the truth

Delegates are bound by Caucus results, unless the candidates have changed.

Obama 13
Hill 12

[MH1]

14. Why is it against DU rules?

I know plenty of people who use it and they aren't right wing.

I guess you haven't noticed, but there's a bit of antipathy towards Hillary in the Democratic Party.

[JackORoses]

28. what about HillBilly?

[Imagevision]

3. Signs of things to come next month...

[thunder rising]

4. Hey, I'm all about Obama

but this is blathering over statistical noise. The race is not in question and NV is over...next!

[Fresh_Start]

5. Guess you loved the Bush/Gore decision as well

after all why should the popular vote matter.
In fact, lets give more representatives to Alaska than to New York for example. Its a bigger state. So what if the population is smaller

[Joe the Revelator]

13. This is a strawman,and shows an extreme misunderstanding of the Bush Gore Decision

What was in play was counting the votes in Florida in order to give Gore an electorial college victory.

[Fresh_Start]

16. I didn't mean the court decision

I meant that Bush 'won' electoral college and Gore won popular.

[JackORoses]

31. the Popular vote does matter, but it is not everything

That is why we have a Senate. Otherwise California would decide everything the US does.

Same thing in Nevada. Delegates are weighted so someone in Reno or Elko has as much of a say as someone in Las Vegas.

That is why Obama gets more delegates. He had more statewide appeal.

[NashVegas]

7. Welcome to My Ignore List

If you can't be bothered to uncloak your profile, I probably wouldn't like it anyway.

[Imagevision]

8. Ignor/Deny whatever, Obama won more delegates in Nevada and that's a fact jack...!

[Unsane]

10. lol the article actually had "Billary" in it?

[Imagevision]

11. Only Billary when the message comes from both of them...

[DJ13]

15. Obama's campaign people are good

This is the same tactic they used in NH, where they work hardest in the smaller areas in order to meet or exceed Hillary's delegate counts by winning more precincts.

If Hillary tries to match that effort she exposes herself to losing the larger precincts.

Smart plan, takes a lot of foresight and math.

[opihimoimoi]

18. Hillary ahead by 55 delegates....she has the Big Mo

[slick8790]

20. Unpledged superdelegates.

They'll change to whoever wins the nomination.

[opihimoimoi]

22. She actually leads by a larger margin....go check..supers not included

[slick8790]

24. I don't know how you find Hillar up 55.

Obama:

16 (Iowa) + 9 (NH) + 13 (NV) = 38 pledged delegates

Clinton:

15 (Iowa) + 9 (NH) + 12 (NV) = 36 pledged delegates

Withholding superdelegates, Obama is up 2 delegates.

[William769]

23. One thing to remember the Delegates are not actually awarded till April 19th.

[JackORoses]

33. they are awarded based on the Caucus that happened on Jan 19

those Caucus results will not change. If Obama is still a candidate, he will get his 13.

[rinsd]

26. Hmmm that didn't stop Obamabots from declaring her 3rd in Iowa

Even though she got more delegates than Edwards.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. spin it any way you want

every newspaper, and every news website trumpeted Clinton as the winner.

[BenDavid]

30. obama still looking for those culinary workers to vote for him

:hi: Obama over here, I think I see them...............:hide: Nope, not any there....Maybe they are over there...:hide: Nope Obama I do not see them, but wait, wait I think I know where they are......uh huh just as I suspected :grouphug: Clinton campaign....

[JackORoses]

34. He didn't need the Culinary workers to win more delegates, now did he?

[Texas_Kat]

32. Please note the 'sidebar' article as well

Republicans Switch, Fatten Dem's Numbers....

And before you say it, no, I don't believe for a single second they will stay with the party to vote for a Democrat in the general election.


http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/20/republicans-switch-fatten-dems-numbers/#/Culinary_Caucus/