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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 PM
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Bill Clinton should sit down and . . .
shut up!

If Bill is being deployed by the HRC campaign as a "secret weapon" to rattle Barrack Obama' cage, I think its BACKFIRING on them. I find Bill's aggressive "double teaming" of Obama to be in very bad form for a former President. Also, if Hillary really does need her husband to defend her reputation, and to "punch Obama in the eye," maybe she is NOT TOUGH ENOUGH to be President.

It is almost as bad if Bill is "talking out of school." I don't want Bill Clinton as co-President (or unofficial Vice President). If Hillary can't reign him in now, HOW is she ever going to reign him in in the White House?

The MORE Bill talks, the LESS I like Hillary.

Am I ALONE on this?



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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 PM
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1. mmm
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:00 PM
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2. Are you willing to have
all of the candidates spouses
shut-up?
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:06 PM
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7. No. There is a HUGE difference between . . .
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 02:07 PM by Krashkopf
talking UP your spouse (as Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Edwards are doing) and attacking your spouse's opponent (in a very aggressive, GOP-like, manner) as Bill Clinton is doing.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:24 PM
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14. Uhhh
that is called Politics.
If Obama cannot take the
'bullying on the playground',
he needs to take his ball and
go home.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:01 PM
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3. Jealous that Bill is taking so much media attention away from Obama, eh?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 02:02 PM by MethuenProgressive
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:08 PM
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9. Actually, I an Edwards supporter . . .
and this only HELPS my candidate.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:10 PM
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10. right... because Edwards gets even *less* air time...
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 02:12 PM by MethuenProgressive
I see John's climbing in the polls. Good luck to your candidate.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:15 PM
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11. That would explain the LENGHTY interview Olbermann did . . .
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 02:20 PM by Krashkopf
with Edwards last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RYmR9ubM7A

Edwards gets to look like the adult trying to separate two (three) squabbling kids.

That's a PLUS in my book!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:18 PM
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12. And they talked about.... Bill Clinton!
Seriously, good luck to your candidate, hope he does well and stays in the race.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:21 PM
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13. Actually, I remember Elizabeth being the first spouse to attack anyone
She said something to the effect that Bill's indiscretions of the past would hurt Hillary's electability.

Personally, I don't think Bill is hurting Hillary. I think most Democrats still love to hear from him. I think it's only the people who have already made up their minds for other candidates who are turned off by it.

I also think most of those same people would LOVE to have Bill STFU because they know he's helping her.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:02 PM
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4. yup
Alone, that is.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:03 PM
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5. It is probably having a bad effect
But at this point, portraying the Clintons as evil giants and Obama as a poor little waif is going to backfire much worse. People have heard all the anti-Clinton rhetoric before, and will not believe that Obama is purely virtuous.

Ideally: Bill would cool it, and the Obama team would stop complaining and get back to the inspiring speechifying. After their surrogates sober up, they can get back to policy debates.

By the way, did Hillary really threaten to have Bill "punch Obama in the eye"?

--p!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:04 PM
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6. ... inhale.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:32 PM
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17. .....Snort.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:06 PM
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8. Looks like Bill envy to me. n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:25 PM
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15. The Clinton campaign should do what it thinks best, so should te others, and voters
should decide who to vote for.

It doesn't really matter if you like Hillary less, after all. It doesn't matter if I like her more.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:29 PM
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16. yo! Hey Bill'O...rilley...O..
YOU SHUT UP!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:44 PM
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18. Then so should Elizabeth and Michelle.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:16 AM
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19. This whole episode shows how DIVISIVE . . .
Bill Clinton, and by extension Hillary Clinton, are. If they can alienate, and offend, DEMOCRATS during the nomination process, imagine how much they will ALIENATE and OFFEND the general public during the general election cycle.

Democrats, with no disrespect to Hillary Clinton intended, we HONESTLY have to ask ourselves, do we WANT to re-hash "White Water" and "File Gate" and "Travel Gate" and Monica Lewinski and Jennifer Flowers, ad nauseum, for the next 8 years? Because you KNOW that the Republicans WILL!
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