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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:45 PM
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Brand New NBC-WSJ Poll-Clinton 47% Obama 32% Edwards 12% RCP Average Included
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:46 PM
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1. DSB, what do you make of all this.
She's slipped in SC but remains steady in FL.

She still retains leads in quite a few Feb 5th states.

But her national heat numbers have recovered.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:48 PM
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3. Because Of South Carolina's Demographics
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:49 PM
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5. That's sounds right.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:47 PM
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2. You should probably point out that that is a national poll. nt
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:49 PM
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4. Which means it means ... NOTHING!
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 06:49 PM by LSparkle
More sucky MSM trying to hypnotize/manipulate the voters.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:52 PM
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How Does It Mean Nothing?
When we have a quasi nat'l primary on 2/5... Twenty two states including CA, NY, IL, MO, GA, NJ, CT, AZ, NM will be voting...
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:56 PM
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17. But we don't have a national election -- we have 50 state elections
27 states aren't voting 2/5 and some of them have had a big impact on past elections (Florida, Ohio).
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:02 PM
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21. But The Voters Come From The Same Universe Of Voters
It's safe to assume that if a candidate is winning by a healthy margin in a nat'l poll that candidate is also winning in most , but not certainly all states...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:49 PM
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6. I Included The RCP Avg So I Wouldn't Be Accused Of Cherry Picking
You can only get so much in the header...
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:50 PM
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8. And you should also point out that the margin between them is tightening...
Other national polls, such as the Washington Post poll have them within the margin of error...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:53 PM
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12. The Most Recent Bloomberg Poll Has It A Nine Point Race...Rasmussen Has It A Twelve Point Race
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 06:54 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I included the RCP Average... That ABC Poll is about two weeks old...

DSB does not cherry pick...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:59 PM
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19. Wow, maybe a few more people could tell you what and how to post!
Geez, people. If you don't like how the information is presented, start your own damn thread.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:50 PM
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7. Looks likes she's building on this

One thing i've noticed in all this time, Obama cannot pull past 35% nationally whatsoever, its a total ceiling for him.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:50 PM
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9. still plenty of time for fluctuation
there's almost 10% undecided and momentum can be a huge factor.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:52 PM
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10. With Feb 5th right around the corner, this is big!
:woohoo:

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:55 PM
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15. I agree. It looks very good . goldcanyonaz did you get to see
Hillary in person when she was in AZ this week?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:58 PM
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18. No, I had to work. What a HUGE turnout for her, huh? Arizona LOVES Hillary!!
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 06:58 PM by goldcanyonaz
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:02 PM
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20. Too bad you had to work but yes her support looks solid there
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:52 PM
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11. Folks should link to this and look at the details........
Meanwhile, in the South Carolina Democratic primary, just two days away, Barack Obama has an eight-point advantage over Clinton, 38 to 30 percent, per a new MSNBC/McClatchy/Mason-Dixon poll. Edwards comes in third at 19 percent.

Why do you think these polls are all over the place?

Is the people lying to the pollsters?

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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:55 PM
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14. These polls are all too screwy

Actually the mason dixon one was the most accurate in Nevada, it was Edwards votes that were overestimated.

I wouldnt be surprised if people were lying, jesus could you imagine the hell in here is Hillary gets anywhere near close on Saturday or even wins.

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:54 PM
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13. I'd say JEDNE....
but he is mentioned briefly in the sixth paragraph....
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:56 PM
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16. What does that stand for? nt
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:13 PM
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23. John Edwards does not exist.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:12 PM
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22. Its now the white vote stupid and Obama's racebaiting has finished him
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:16 PM
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24. The detail in it is very hmmmmmmm
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 07:19 PM by sunonmars

Clinton wins hands down on Experience with 73%,

Clinton has the least unfavourable rating at 14%, Obama 15% and Edwards 16%.

White vote : Obama 10%, Clinton 36%, and Edwards 40% (42% total)

Black vote : Obama 59%, Clinton 25% and Edwards 4% (55% total)


White men : Obama 11%, Clinton 29% and Edwards 47%

White Women : Obama 8%, Clinton 43% and Edwards 34%

Black men : Obama 66%, Clinton 23% and Edwards 3%

Black women : Obama 55% Clinton 27% and Edwards 4%

So Obama according to this poll would hardly carry any white vote support whatsoever and has a heavy black vote. Hillary dents better in the black vote than Obama in the white. Interesting. If that holds, the msm will take him apart come Saunday morning. Thats consistently he cant carry the white vote and Hillary can't take the black vote, this is a big big problem folks.

In fact Clinton does better among black people than Obama does amongst whites.

i dont know what the hell to make of SC.


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