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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:56 AM
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Will Obama and Clinton vote on telecom immunity?
Anyone who believes in preserving civil liberties in this country should be very concerned about any vote on this bill coming up this week. If the Senate does not get the 60 votes it needs to put this down (to support Sen. Dodd's filibuster) telecoms would not be held accountable for spying on Americans under Bush's illegal spying program that he used to supercede FISA. I already sent letters to Sens. Obama, Clinton, and McCain asking them to get off the campaign trail and vote to hold telecom companies accountable for breaking the law and to defend our civil liberties. Will they do so? McCain, probably not. However, will Sens. Obama and Clinton do the right thing to show Americans (which polls for those who care about them show Americans are unanimously against immunity for telecoms) that when they say they want "change" they mean it? Or will they simply call "present" and allow this administration to take away more of our rights and the ability to hold corporations that violate the law accountable? They are both already in a position to create change. So where is it? If they don't vote on this or vote to give immunity on this, how can they be trusted to uphold our civil liberties in any other office?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 AM
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1. Yes she will
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:00 AM by maddiejoan
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:01 AM
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2. Maddiejoan, I am curious about Hillary ...she owes Harry Reid the NV win
and look what he did with FISA ...that dude needs to retire.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:03 AM
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3. we'll have to see--won't we?
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:03 AM by maddiejoan
The question was asked if Hillary will be there.

From what I know --she will be there and addressing the floor.

Obviously, I have no idea what she'll say or how she'll vote --but I'll damned sure be listening.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:15 AM
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4. Answer: they can't.
Nope, they can't if they don't show up and support Dodd's filibuster, than they can't be trusted to uphold civil liberties.

Of course they'll still be much better than the Rethuglican alternative, but we'll know their limits.

Here's hoping I'm surprised, and the immunity dies the death is so richly deserves, and that these would-be leaders, Clinton and Obama, actually LEAD.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:43 AM
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5. I couldn't agree more. An "I was mislead," a "present" or
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:59 AM by Benhurst
"I had a prior commitment to be out campaigning" won't cut it.

It's past time for rhetoric. Either stand up to the corporations, or get lost.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:57 AM
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6. Amen n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:59 AM
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7. More than voting
they need to show their "leadership" skills and put together a bloc of others to vote against immunity. It would tell us a lot about how they would govern in the WH.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:01 PM
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8. Bingo! If they get those who have already endorsed them, the immunity will not pass.
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