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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:29 PM
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FINAL SURVEY USA FLORIDA POLL (1/27-1/28) Hillary has 24 point lead, gets 80% of hispanic vote
Final Florida Democratic Primary Numbers: No Late Momentum for Obama -- SurveyUSA's 10th and final tracking point in the Florida Democratic Primary shows no late momentum for Barack Obama, following endorsements of Obama in the past 36 hours by President Kennedy's Brother Edward and daughter Caroline. Hours till voting ends, it's Hillary Clinton 52%, Obama 28%, John Edwards 13%.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d485467e-dde3-4a5d-9999-4bbe9dac800a

Hispanics

Clinton 80%
Obama 8%
Edwards 1%

Blacks

Obama 66%
Clinton 29%
Edwards 2%
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:30 PM
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It's a shame FL broke the rules and doesn't matter.
I'd look for some new FL Leaders if I lived there.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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7. I think FLA should be forgiven
because I don't see the point in pissing them off.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:33 PM
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13. FL's delegates will be seated unless Obama doesn't want them to be.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:36 PM
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19. So you know this as fact?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:47 PM
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29. There is no WAY the DNC will allow FL to be "thrown away" at the convention.
It would be suicide in the GE.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:51 PM
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31. There has been talk from the beginning that the delegates
would be seated at the Convention. It's not a new idea, or unexpected.

They'll be seated whether Obama wants them to be or not. The party cannot afford to be seen to disenfranchise the voters of two states (even as they wrist-slap the idiot legislatures who scheduled the primaries early)that have the potential to tip the balance in the general.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:30 PM
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1. holy crap that's a blowout
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:30 PM
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2. YAWN
The candidates couldn't campaign there. So she wins on Bill's record and name.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:33 PM
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11. Hillary is nothing, just a simple woman and a wife without Bill, right?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:47 PM
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28. Sexism is alive and well from the Obama-side.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:27 AM
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38. You underestimate a brilliant woman.
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:30 PM
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3. no delegates, nobody cares
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:31 PM
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4. Voters care.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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10. They Should Care
If Obama gets the nomination the Repugs won't have to spend a dime to hold the state...
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:37 PM
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22. The other impressive thing from this poll
27% of the sample voted early. From newspapers, 400,000 dems voted early already. So if the 73% LV number is correct in the crosstabs, that would mean more than 1.5 million democrats would have voted in the primary and Hillary would have gotten more than 750,000 votes. That's hard to ignore considering Obama got just under 300,000 in his South Carolina blowout.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:41 PM
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23. I Voted On Friday
I talk to a lot of garden variety, read not activist, Democrats and they have no idea that their votes "don't count."... When I explain to them the delegate brouhaha they give me a wide eyed look...
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:55 AM
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37. Great news if those numbers hold
Especially considering that Barack has been campaigning there and she has not.

I read that the DNC could take away the delegates of anyone who broke the pledge not to campaign in Michigan and Florida.

And I think that that is why Barack is so upset about Hillary's request to seat the delegation.

Well, that and those numbers.

You do a great job, Herman.

:hi:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:40 AM
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40. I Agree
I haven't voted. But, your right, most folks don't know there vote doesn't count. Also, Hillary asking for our delegates to be seated and Barack is fighting it, come GE they may turn to a 3rd party or a write-in for Hillary or John once all the hoopla starts and MSM covers it.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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6. It's called the bandwagon effect
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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9. So you are pro-disenfranchisement.
:puke:

How nice of you.
:sarcasm:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:45 PM
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25. I'm pro "keeping your word"... Hillary lied and broke her word...
...to follow the DNC lead and not campaign in Florida.

If she won't keep small promises like this.. what kind of President would she be?

She agreed to the rules about Florida and Michigan... and now she's reneging.

Where I come from that's called cheating.

...fits into her profile of "doing or saying anything to win".

are we SURE that Karl Rove is not running the Hillary campaign?? REALLY SURE??

Sure seems like it....

First Bill morphs into Lee Atwater... and now this Florida and Michigan hypocrisy.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:46 PM
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27. She is not campaigning in Florida...
but Obama is doing a Bush and advertising on the air in Florida.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:35 PM
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15. Those delegates will count, the state party is saying they will count. Dean and Pelosi said they...
...count. So please, don't delude yourself.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:46 PM
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26. And yet they won't count
SO please, don't delude yourself.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:35 PM
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16. If no one cares they won't bother to go to the trouble of voting tomorrow
We will know soon enough.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:31 PM
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5. WOW!! She does GREAT with no opponent!!!!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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8. No opponent?
All three candidates are on the ballot there.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:37 PM
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21. They are all on the ballot and Obama has been advertising in Florida.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:33 PM
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12. Wow. That's pretty impressive.
Nice job, Hillary!:thumbsup:

Now, John Edwards REALLY needs to get 15% of the votes! GO, JOHN!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:34 PM
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14. Why is Edwards doing so poorly with minority voters?
That is what jumps out at me from this. Why does Clinton get 80 hispanic votes for every one that he does? Both of them are white. They run much closer among white voters. Yeah the poll might be off but still.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:49 PM
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30. Bill Clinton's record
Hillary hasn't done anything Edwards hasn't for minorities. Both have perfect records on minority issues. So does Obama. It can be argued Edwards' policies do more for minorities as a whole. Whatever the reason for it it is not something based on their records since they all have the same record on minority issues.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:35 PM
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17. Wait till they see the handshake...nt
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:36 PM
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18. Should be really interesting once all the absentee ballots are figured in
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:43 PM
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24. Early voting in California too.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:59 PM
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32. I heard the numbers were huge in Cali and there is a good majority for Hillary.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 12:19 AM by wlucinda
:thumbsup: Sounds great to me!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:36 PM
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20. Wow!
K&R
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:00 AM
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33. Delegates: 0
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:05 AM
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34. The delegates of every state will be seated.
It would be dumb to piss them off.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:20 AM
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36. True but
It is a huge crucial voting block and the results will get national coverage

I hope the Kennedy endorsement helps tomorrow, not much effect on all the early votes cast.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:18 AM
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35. more votes were cast early in Florida than IA, NH and SC combined
400,000
Florida is HUGE

Hillary is running national ads as well as Obama

It will be interesting to see how many more votes will be added tomorrow, polls are not all that accurate but Hillary has a definite lead
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:30 AM
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39. this has been planned by the DLC and Clinton's for a very long time now..
this has been orchestrated by the FDP since last spring..

several of us have posted about this many many times..this is not a surprise.

Edwards got this Hispanic families votes today!!

fly
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:45 AM
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41. One thing about voting rights - they cannot be turned on and off by political party hacks...
...and one more thing about the right to vote - all votes must be counted.

Go over to the election forum. They know all about this. They will explain what they have been fighting for all these years.

The Democratic Party - here's to you: the champion party of voting rights - denying the voters of two big states to have their elections count. How will that play in November?
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