Kerry coming up on Olberman/MSNBC coverage of FL primaries.

[joshcryer]

Should be interesting the distortions he makes about the delegates there.

[Freida5]

1. Does anyone have the number for the swiftboaters

[joshcryer]

3. Is that some sort of snide remark? I plan to debunk his myth with facts.

[neutron]

24. I Watch Jon Stewart These Days - but thanks

[LittleClarkie]

35. What myth? When you posted that he hadn't said shit yet.

So if he doesn't support your candidate, he's automatically a liar?

[KittyWampus]

2. do they have a commentator from the Clinton's side? You know, for fair and balanced?

[Freida5]

4. Nbc is not fair and balanced. they are totally pro-obama and anti-Clinton

[KittyWampus]

5. when you say totally, you kind of go overboard.

[Freida5]

9. Ok sorry! "almost totally pro-Obama and anti-Clinton"

[neutron]

32. and General Electric controlled

[Freida5]

18. I just got a letter from Kerry and Kennedy. It felt great to unsubscribe from his mailing list.

[Mass]

27. How many times have you unsubscribed these last few weeks?

[neutron]

33. I unsubscribed but still send them Hate Mail

they haven't unsubscribed to me :-)

[Freida5]

39. Good idea

[joshcryer]

6. Olberman points out the tax vote, good guy.

[Mass]

7. What distortions? Yours or his?

[joshcryer]

8. His most likely. So far he's being honest.

[Mass]

10. Because it looks like you like to distort a lot while he is stating the facts.

[joshcryer]

12. Like what?

[Mass]

14. That Kerry distorts about delegates. What did he distort?

[joshcryer]

15. That they don't matter.

When they clearly do.

[Mass]

16. Well, call Howard Dean if you are unhappy. Kerry did not write the rules and Clinton agreed with

them until it was convenient for her to disagree.

[joshcryer]

21. How did she disagree?

Both her and Obama are for seating the delegates at the DNC. Have you not been paying attention?

[joshcryer]

29. No, really, please, where did Clinton disagree with the DNC nomination process?

[joshcryer]

19. For the record I was content with his characterization this time around.

But he neglected to note the vote there with the tax stuff, but Olberman kept him from having to recognize it.

[Mass]

22. Thanks, but he has never said anything else. The only difference is that this time you heard him and

not the characterization that the media have made, probably. Sad that Democrats never learn.

[joshcryer]

26. The earlier characterization was "FL doesn't count."

Olberman framed the question in such a way that his answer was "this is a race about delegates." And indeed, it was still mischaracterized.

[madfloridian]

25. No, they clearly do not matter unless there is a firm nominee.

Until then they do not count. Kerry is right. Obama is right.

[joshcryer]

28. You are wrong. They only matter if there is no firm nominee.

Because in that case they would not be seated in order to maintain the nomination of the nominee who chose not to seat them. Otherwise they're irrelevant and will be seated.

You characterize it backwards because you are not on the right side. The most likely scenario is the seating of the states, not the unseating as so many Obama supporters seem to be for.

[madfloridian]

30. What is the right side, my argumentative friend?

The nominee will not be chosen by Florida. I have no side on that.

[joshcryer]

31. Actually, I've come to the conclusion that if MI or FL came into play we'd have a brokered...

...convention. Since no candidate at that point would have a clear mandate with only a 58 point spread.

edit: in other words, the failure to seat MI or FL means no mandate, and a brokered convention.

[LittleClarkie]

38. There is no right side

There are only differing opinions to be discussed. Hence, what we're doing here on a DISCUSSION board.

[LittleClarkie]

37. That's his opinion, and that's your opinion. Differing opinions are not myths and/or lies

You're just on different sides of the issue.

[LittleClarkie]

36. That's what you get for assuming

.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

11. Good thing he's only hurting his candidate.

[MadBadger]

13. Go Kerry!

[busymom]

17. I voted for Kerry...

and watching him on MSNBC really was an eye-opener. I wonder what I liked about him before... :shrug: I feel sort of bummed about that.

[joshcryer]

23. I was a Deaniac before.

Never liked Kerry. Voted for him, but knew something wasn't well in that bunch.

[madfloridian]

20. I am pleased with what Kerry said in the phone conference.

I say good for him. I have been through so much trying to get the truth out here that his comments please me a lot.

Shortly after the Clinton call ended, Sen. Barack Obama's campaign held a conference of its own. The stated purpose was to discuss strategy heading into the February 5th super-primary. But plans changed. Sen. John Kerry, a surrogate jumped on the line to greet reporters.

"I've been alerted to a Clinton conference call," he began. "I know that what this race is about right now and ultimately it is about delegates. That's what the Clinton campaign has described it as being about. The bottom line is that Florida does not offer any delegates it is not a legitimate race, and it should not become a spin race or a fabricated race."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/29/clinton-camp-ignores-crit_n_83857.html

Amen, it should not. Hillary is using it, Obama is not. He is the one who is correct.

[polichick]

34. It was great to see John Kerry...

He would've made such a wonderful president!