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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:07 AM
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Poll question: Bill Clinton propped up a dictator, got $3.1b for his buddy and $131 million for his charity
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 08:08 AM by BeyondGeography
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:10 AM
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1. A slanted, spun Obama poll to unite us in hope!
Tell us about this dictator and the buddy. More stuff you just made up?

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:12 AM
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2. Did you read the link?
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:23 AM
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4. That takes work ya know :P n/t
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:33 AM
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7. More than a one-liner, anyway
Not only have I read the article, I followed the uranium deal in the international (i.e., non-USA (i.e., at least semi-intelligent)) news.

One public smooch on the ass of a dictator for $131M? Sign me up!

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:30 AM
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5. Sure did
It was another piece of anti-Bill innuendo. SOP for the NYT

How 'bout you?

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:32 AM
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6. Sure did. Do you have *proof* that it's incorrect?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:44 AM
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9. All it takes is the ability to read
You're the Clinton-hater; you present your "proof" first.

You can't even be bothered to write a brief discussion of the article -- but you want me to hand you a bunch of links?

The Times also let the piece run with a series of unsourced derogatory statements presented as fact, a practice the Times is notorious for.

I suppose you want me to list the unsupported statements one-by-one for you. Here's three in one half a sentence:

" ...Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges."

The rest, I leave for your enjoyment. But digging for information is more difficult that just accepting what you're told.

If you want to fling mud, don't complain when you get your hands dirty.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:52 AM
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12. "Unsourced derogatory comments" from the public record and...
at least one former Clinton apparatchik?

Pu-leeze-- there is little question that Mr. Bill is cashing in on his former job. Don't sully the discussion by questioning the facts, question how close to the line he's going.

The article was spun negatively, but, since the deal was done, just how would one spin it positively?



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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:22 AM
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3. If there was anything wrong or immoral about it, Borat would've been all over it
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:44 AM
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8. Incomprehensible innuendo from sleazy, discredited "Her Way" author
Tell us about Whitewater again, Don.

Ready, Fire, Aim.

:rofl:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:13 AM
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10. Strange, the Amazon editor and reader reviews call that book neutral. Kill the messenger
but it still reeks.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:16 AM
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11. Bill Clinton? Oh, I love Bill. Making money for his family.
He was almost broke when he left the WH thanks to legal fees. He does lots of fund raising for poor folks around the world. Get in there Bill and do something for yourself...just like everyone else does, including Obama.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:54 AM
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13. Clinton folks, this is the problem with making artificial standards for Obama:
It will, and I mean will bite you in the ass. This is a thousand times worse than Rezko.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:56 AM
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14. This is the new Whitewater. There may be no there, there, but
it will be the hammer used by the RW and their accomplices in the corporate media to bludgeon Hillary and either keep her from the WH or defeat any liberal initiative she might propose. The combination of Bill's casual attitude to ethical concerns and the unremitting hostility of the GOP and media are likely to result in a rerun of Bill's second term, if Hillary is elected. The co-presidency concept is dangerous to the Democratic Party.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:02 AM
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15. I guess we'll have to see if the story has legs.
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