Misanthropy and Misanthropes.

[CorpGovActivist]

Who appeals more to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthrope">misanthropes?

Personally, I like people. I like interacting with others, being exposed to new viewpoints that force me to re-examine my own, learning about new topics (and relating them to familiar ones), and just spending time.

For instance, I wouldn't hold a closed-door series of "cool kid only" sessions - excluding legitimately-interested players - to try to come up with an ivory-cream working paper to nowhere on a major policy that affects a lot of people.

One of the challenges of chronic illness with recurring major flare-ups, such as Crohn's, is finding a way to remain connected to others, and not allowing yourself to become a misanthrope of convenience (as opposed to a naturally-occurring misanthrope).

In the case of many chronically-ill Americans, there is nothing quite like the lift of a hopeful, engaging friend to put the wind back in your sails, give a chuck under the ol' chin, and say: "Tomorrow will be better than yesterday."

Somehow, it makes one want to say. Yes. I. Can. Yes. We. Can.

- Dave

[Name removed]

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[CorpGovActivist]

2. "People are fucking people, and that is fucked up!"

Not said by me. Not even CLOSE to how I feel. Not even CLOSE to how I operate when the gavel is my hand, either.

- Dave

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[Hart2008]

4. Do misanthropes hate only men or all of mankind?

misanthrope

"one who hates mankind," 1563, from Gk. misanthropos "hating mankind," from misein "to hate" + anthropos "man." Alternate form misanthropist is attested from 1656.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/misanthrope

If misogynists hate women, do misanthropists hate men?

:think:

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. All of mankind

'anthropos' is 'human', really. 'Andros' is the Greek for 'man', as opposed to 'woman'; 'misandry' is the word for hatred of men.

[CorpGovActivist]

7. A toast...

... to root words: :toast:

Basics matter.

- Dave

[Hart2008]

16. So then it must be impossible to have a female android?

Star Trek got this wrong?

:popcorn:

[CorpGovActivist]

20. Um...

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android">hadn't thought of that.

More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_%28Star_Trek%29">Data helps.

- Dave

[Hart2008]

25. The female version of "android" is "gynoid", also called a "fembot"

Though the word derives from a gender-specific root, its usage in English is usually gender-neutral; the female counterpart, gynoid, is generally used only when female gender is a distinguishing trait of the robot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android

The Star Trek franchise has featured gynoids on numerous occasions including the Star Trek: The Original Series episodes "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" and "I, Mudd", the film Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Offspring".


Fembot
The term Fembot (sometimes spelled Femmebot) is used as an alternative name for a gynoid who is designed to look like a woman. The term has been used in several fictional productions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynoid

This leads to the larger question of whether the Clinton campaign has created gynoids/fembots to post here on DU.

:wow:
:wow:
:wow:

:yoiks:

[Recursion]

28. "Please wake me when robot wives are cheap and plentiful" n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

33. Yesterday, my partner said something similar about Cindy McCain...

... I nearly cracked my head on the coffee table, and I wish I knew how to capture the video off the TiVo to show you what nearly led to an emergency room visit.

:rofl:

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

42. I don't swing that way, but I'm mindful of my vaccum cleaner and my workshop.

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[Recursion]

29. "Android" is an inexact term

As androids are usually imagined, they are not "robots" in the classical sense because they they are not fully deterministic automata but have something approximating free will and choice.

[Hart2008]

30. The gynoids here have many feminine characteristics in their programming.

You better hope they don't see your previous comment about being cheap and plentiful.


:evilgrin:

[CorpGovActivist]

37. Berdache, or Two-Spirit, in many Native American cultures...

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berdache">are thought to be able to see both sides, occupying a unique space.

I think both misogyny and misandry are two sides of a coin that holds back progress and many progressive policies.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

34. Positronically precise. n/t

[Recursion]

23. The word for man was "aner"

the delta and sigma disappear in the nominative, for reasons that are tedious to describe.

[CorpGovActivist]

24. One (wo)man's tedium...

... is another (wo)man's Classical treasure.

- Dave

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. Heh - thanks

I did one term of Greek, and remember almost none of it - I was taking a stab at endings that I vaguely remember, as you have noticed.

[CorpGovActivist]

39. Where'd you do it?

Any other languages? Polyglots rock!

- Dave

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. At school in Britain

I had far too much Latin thrown at me there (traditional English schools liked Latin, especially 30 years ago), and they gave us a term of Greek as a change. Although I got the expected A grade at O level Latin (normally an exam taken at 16, but I was still 14 when I took it - because of the amount I'd had timetabled - at one stage, I had more time learning Latin than any other subject), I can't call myself 'polyglot' - the Latin was strictly taught for 'how to pass the exams'. I did German at school too, but have forgotten most of it, through non-use. I can speak tourist French, but that's it.

[CorpGovActivist]

41. Ah, public school!

Means something http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_school_%28UK%29">quite a bit different there, eh?

Favorite Greek word? Latin?

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

45. How long were you in the UK?

Huge Anglophile here.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

9. For more on ...

... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4359071&mesg_id=4359071">misandry.

- Dave

[Forkboy]

43. To quote the movie The Proposition...

"A misanthrope is a bugger who hates every other bugger." :)

[CorpGovActivist]

44. I like. I'll use.

:toast:

- Dave

[paulk]

6. this has to be the strangest thread you've ever started

most people turn to their religion for comfort, not a presidential candidate.

[CorpGovActivist]

8. "most people turn to their religion for comfort, not a presidential candidate"

Misanthropy is not a religion, it's a way of approaching life. One I don't practice, and one I find hard to relate to, actually.

- Dave

[paulk]

10. so who is it that appeals to misanthropes here?

what are you trying to say in this thread?

[CorpGovActivist]

11. Punctuation basics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark">For your benefit and edification.

- Dave

[paulk]

14. the usual snark from you.

why don't you answer the question?

[CorpGovActivist]

18. I am not Rumsfeld.

When I ask a question, I'm seeking others' insights.

- Dave

[Skinner]

12. I am going to take the liberty of cleaning up this thread.

I apologize that it was taken off topic.

[CorpGovActivist]

13. Thank you, very sincerely.

:toast:

- Dave

[paulk]

15. there is a topic?

I'm still trying to figure it out, myself, since the OP would rather post snark and insults than answer.

Which is not unusual.

[CorpGovActivist]

19. Why do your question marks denote questions?

But those typed by those you disagree with or dislike ... don't?

- Dave

[paulk]

21. why do you answer questions I've posed for someone else?

[CorpGovActivist]

22. Because soliloquies don't work in a forum such as this.

You broke the fourth wall.

- Dave

[paulk]

26. I don't know

you seem to do a lot of it.

[CorpGovActivist]

31. Participants welcome. Interactive. By design.

[Hart2008]

17. Looks like the Magistrate has been overruled. n/t

[radfringe]

27. in answer to your original question - Who appeals more to misanthropes?

nuff said:

[CorpGovActivist]

32. I dunno. Lots of social sudsy types seem to like him.

[cgrindley]

35. Speaking as a misanthrope

I don't trust our species to behave rationally or look out for anything other than shallow self-interest. I think that emotions tend to dominate reason and that people for unknown reasons actually privilege the emotional over the rational. I think that most people don't grasp a lot of the very serious issues facing us today and that what's worse, few make any attempt to educate themselves on the issues. Others actually appear to revel in their own ignorance. I think that our species is doomed and that with anthrogenic climate change, we've caused our own destruction. Certainly some individuals have created some beauty in the world, but our collective history is far more one of misery than majesty. So yeah. I dislike people. Individually, however, people are okay. I have friends. But our species as a whole? I don't care if we go extinct tomorrow.

[CorpGovActivist]

36. Oh, Hosanna!

Thank you. I'd give you a hug, but how about a respectful head bob, instead? No emoticon, but there you go.

"I don't trust our species to behave rationally or look out for anything other than shallow self-interest."

I find the studies of altruism in social societies to be an interesting prism through which to view that meme. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wilson+ants+altruism">E.O. Wilson's studies of altruism in ants, bees, and other social species (including us) still rivet and compel. BEST. LECTURER. EVER.

"I think that emotions tend to dominate reason and that people for unknown reasons actually privilege the emotional over the rational."

The math bears you out on this. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=personality+types+typelogic">The predominance of F's over T's in our society and our species is pretty pronounced.

"I think that most people don't grasp a lot of the very serious issues facing us today and that what's worse, few make any attempt to educate themselves on the issues."

Sciential potentia est. Still true.

"Others actually appear to revel in their own ignorance."

Wallow, is more like it.

"I think that our species is doomed and that with anthrogenic climate change, we've caused our own destruction."

For the "sorting hat" writing exam for the only required Frosh class in college - Expository Writing - the essay topic was climate change. The challenge: take a side as to whether or not we were doomed by our own hand. I argued (and still do) that our species will - after exhausting all other possibilities - combine our collective talents to come up with a viable solution. I don't have faith in our first-impulses, but I have a lot of faith in our collective ingenuity.

"Certainly some individuals have created some beauty in the world, but our collective history is far more one of misery than majesty."

Eh.

"So yeah. I dislike people. Individually, however, people are okay. I have friends. But our species as a whole? I don't care if we go extinct tomorrow."

So long, and thanks for all the fish?

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- Dave