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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:00 AM
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Daily Mail (UK): "Does anyone know the real Barack Obama?"
Disturbing piece in the British press by a journalist who did some digging into Obama's years in Chicago politics:



The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?

By PETER HITCHENS
Last updated at 20:46pm on 2nd February 2008


America is about to fool itself for the third time in a row. Sentiment and star quality seem likely to trample on common sense and experience, and we will all suffer for it. Having fallen - twice - for the Southern-fried charm of Bill Clinton and - twice - for the corny, fake patriotism of George W. Bush, the people of the great republic are now overpowered by the beauty and sweetness of Barack Obama, a glimmering TV star with the power to make them feel at ease with themselves, and about whom they know only what he wants them to know.

I make no predictions about the huge political contest that will take place across much of the United States on Tuesday, with 22 states voting in a national dress rehearsal for the real thing in November. Nobody really knows what will happen. But I think Mr Obama will still be in the fight, with a more than reasonable chance of winning the Democratic nomination and then the presidency....

So who really is this Obama who can reduce knees and brains to jelly, whose books are read with reverence by normally pungent critics, and who, we are told, is the new JFK? I travelled to his home city, Chicago, to see if I could find out. I recalled how we had all been fooled in the early Clinton years by the twaddle about the "Man from Hope" - a legend in which Bill had grown up among poor, denim-clad folks in a small country town. Years later, when someone bothered to check, it turned out Bill had barely been in Hope at all but had instead been raised in great comfort in Hot Springs, Al Capone's favourite holiday resort and still full of good-time girls, big Chevrolets and sleaze. With Obama the problem is a little different, though Capone still comes into it. He has written his own sunlit, often rather purple account of his life, with just enough revelation to persuade us that we know all we need to know. The book, Dreams From My Father, is a much-praised bestseller (though I suspect many of those who praised it didn't stick it out to the end). It contains a confession of drug-taking, carefully limited - marijuana and cocaine but no heroin. It is sometimes moving but often exasperating....

Crucially, the story stops just where things get interesting - when Obama first entered politics in Chicago, that mythical city of gangsterism, corruption and one party-state politics. He did this as an Illinois State Senator, representing a largely black and liberal section of Capone's hometown. Now, Obama has the devil's luck, which among other things means he has a boyish smile that disarms suspicion or hostility at 50 paces. But he is no child, and no innocent. Despite a childhood in Hawaii and Indonesia, Obama knows Chicago well - and from underneath, too. He threw over a good corporate job in New York to toil in the dismal South Side as a "community organiser", getting up campaigns about asbestos in council flats but also getting to know this place's grimy, snaggled web of power - churches, property developers, professional politicians, fixers and money men. He also revealed that he was the sort of person who goes into a revolving door behind you and then comes out of it in front of you. And, of course, he is a lawyer who knows the rules all too well. As one veteran of Chicago politics who very much did not want to be named said to me: "Thank God for Louisiana - their politics are even dirtier than ours." He clearly remembered Obama's first steps on his political career. This involved merciless cunning. Somehow, all of Obama's challengers made a mess of their nomination papers. They were all disqualified. Only Obama's papers, miraculously, were perfect. So he won the Democratic nomination, which in this part of the world means he won the seat....

More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&in_page_id=1811
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:03 AM
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1. Chicago was always corrupt. Obama has friends!
Rezco and others!
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM
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3. It turns out Obama isn't a messiah but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
a crook!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:07 AM
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2. LOL. Yeah, realk "disturbing"
that web of power in churches and housing projects! and in the town Capone called home!

disgusting.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM
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4. Peter Hitchens? PETER FUCKING HITCHENS?
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 01:16 AM by ocelot
Jeez -- he's a wingnut; a British version of George Will or maybe Cal Thomas. Consider the source, dude.

:rofl:

Seriously. Citing Peter Hitchens, a guy who doesn't believe in evolution or sex education, as a credible source of information about any Dem politician, is the equivalent of quoting Krauthammer or Taranto. The fact that he's British doesn't mean he's not a fascist nitwit.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:17 AM
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5. nitwit or not, i care more about whether the allegations are true. nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:19 AM
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7. If the article is by Hitchens you can be sure the information has been spun
to the point of unrecognizability. Take it as seriously as you would a screed by Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly.
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:23 AM
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10. It's the Daily Mail... Probably next to an article about the immigrants poisoning wells in Berkshire
nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:36 AM
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14. Which ones?
It's true that Alice Palmer no longer has a seat. But she tried to run for a higher office and Obama jumped into the vacancy and wouldn't give it up when she wanted to come back. It didn't honor her service. It did serve his interest. But he was under no obligation to be kind. He did what an ambitious man would do and refused to step aside.

His opponents? Didn't have the brains to get up a challenge and he challenged every one of them right off the ballot. Every single one of them. Shrewdly impressive. But not what a sweetheart does.

Those things were COMPLETELY LEGAL.

<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story>

<http://1950democrat.livejournal.com/45470.html>

<http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0611010273nov01,1,2716725.story>

My big problem with the house deal, which is, so far, also legal? It was STUPID. It brought up questions they could have avoided. I expected MICHELE to be smarter than that. Why on earth, with their ambitions, couldn't she go for a cheaper house?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:36 AM
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15. You seem to look over all the alledged Clinton scandals
So many hypocrites out there.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:23 AM
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11. Yeah, no kidding...
He's nuttier than his pro-Iraq War brother, Christopher. I can't wait to see what he says about Hillary. I'm off to read this article for entertainment value, if nothing else...
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:18 AM
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6. "merciless cunning"? eh, maybe, but it's vintage hope that sells; Sorensen: "There's a sense...
"...in this country that Washington badly needs to be changed. The election of Obama will not only change the players in Washington, it'll change the game itself."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/ted-sorensen-obama
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:20 AM
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8. Disgusting: "The Last Brother, Teddy, has stirred his lardy bulk on Obama's behalf."
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:21 AM
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9. Why is the British press vetting Obama more than the American press?
What a sad reflection on the love affair the American press has with Obama.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:24 AM
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12. Peter Hitchens is not "the British press."
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 01:30 AM by ocelot
He's an extreme right-winger who thought Margaret Thatcher was too liberal.

Why is it that some people are happy to believe any bit of libelous trash about their candidate's opponent, even if said trash is produced by some right-wing hack whose bias rises off them like a stench? Earlier today somebody (now the recipient of a stone slab) tried twice to quote a screed against Obama by the truly vile Daniel Pipes. Hey, guys: criticism is one thing; just trolling for dirt from right-wing sources is something else altogether. If you think you've found some juicy item that will bring down your hated adversary, vet the source before you post it so you don't look like an idiot or a tool.

Peter Hitchens. Jeezus.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM
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13. Exactly.
It's like saying that Ann Coulter is someone to admire because she has said that she would campaign for Hillary if McCain is the Republican nominee.
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