Clinton's Promised Withdrawal = A bait and switch?

[Skwmom]

I read this post at Huffington Post:

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., said this morning that she will not make any pledges regarding a U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq.

"We don't know what we're going to inherit," she said on ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos." "None of us do. We don't know what's going to be done in the last 15 months of the Bush-Cheney administration."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/03/obama-clinton-tied-in-na_n_84648.html


During the last debate, Clinton said she would need to look at the Pentagon records before deciding on a withdrawal. This reminded me of Bill Clinton in 92 when he said he could not deliver on his promises because the books were much worse than anticipated. I don't think Clinton has any plans to leave Iraq. No wonder all the arms manufacturers are donating to her.

And why don't we just call CNN - Clinton News Network. After the SC debate they repeatedly showed Clinton and Edwards attacks on Obama without giving Obama's response. They showed the mailer that Obama sent out without showing the false mailer that Clinton sent out in N.H. After the healthcare crisis show, they showed a short clip of Obama talking about national health care, then a clip of Clinton slamming him. All of the posts about the press being unfair to Clinton are ludicrous and are just so they can betray her as a "victim" - which is really a joke.

[leftofthedial]

1. I don't believe her

so :shrug:

[BringBigDogBack]

6. nor I.

:(

[TwilightGardener]

2. Freepers are convinced that she won't pull the troops out of Iraq--that's

a very common sentiment on RW web sites. I hope they're mistaken. I hope I'M not mistaken. Either way, I'm voting for Obama.

[Skwmom]

4. What about Iran? Do they think she will attack Iran?

[TwilightGardener]

7. I think they assume she'll be hawkish--I don't recall anything specific

about Iran. It does make me uneasy--like maybe she's sending out hidden signals or something. :tinfoilhat:

[Avalux]

3. Hillary is dishonest; I don't trust anything she says. n/t

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. more distortions and lies. Obama said the same thing and has

time and again. YOu people will believe any bull shit as long as it is against your candidate of choice.

Americans are so easily manipulated.

[Skwmom]

8. Distortions? I heard her make that comment during the

debate (to me it was a red flag that she wasn't planning on following through with her promise to withdrawal the troops from Iraq).

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. the distortions are that this is something new and frightening

This is an overhaul of the system, and just like taxes and medicare, there will be people who pay for their healthcare. The whole of the system will be changed.

Regarding the troop withdrawl: more twist and distortion. She has said that consistently AND SO HAS OBAMA.

[Texas_Kat]

10. Not with Wes on her team

Much of what she's been saying in the last few months seems to be based on WKC's advice. She's stated unequivocally that we need to/ WILL withdraw.

As for what details to enable us to withdraw are necessary to find out from the Pentagon -- getting those details before making promises is just realistic and honest. How much to YOU think the Pentagon is hiding? We can't find out till they have no choice and a Democrat is in the White House.

[Alexander]

11. Obama has set a date for complete withdrawal. Hillary has not.

Obama wins this one.

[Texas_Kat]

12. Not according to his statement in the last debate

Their 'plans' were the same, except HC thinks we need to find out what the Pentagon's been hiding. More realistic, less rhetoric.

[Alexander]

14. Obama's statement was 14 months before complete withdrawal.

Hillary offered no such statement. She said 60 days until the start of withdrawal but offered no specifics on when they'd be completely out of Iraq.

[Texas_Kat]

17. Just because he's naive enough to think he can wish them all home ...

doesn't mean it can happen. We're going to find out things that no one expects once the Pentagon has to report to a Democrat.

Hillary is smart enough to know that. Obama? Either he thinks he knows everything .... or he's not being forthright.

[ErnestoG]

13. Figures. Typical Clintonian doublespeak on the war.

This is why you cannot trust her on these matters in the Oval Office. Anyone who is antiwar on DU has rocks in their head if they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton.

[thoughtcrime1984]

15. Any presidential candidate can say anything

it comes down to who do you believe will actually try to follow through, and who will be able to work with Congress to achieve follow through. I'd say Obama on both counts.

[dsc]

16. I am watching the show in question

and that post is a bald face lie. She said "If I don't begin taking troops out of Iraq within 60 days you will be surprised since I am promising to start removing them in 60 days"