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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:03 AM Original message |
The clinton administration was no friend to the middle class |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh Really? I just "thought" our Standard of Living was Better? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Clinton had his good points, but that 55MPH retraction shows how much he cares about |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. that is the honestly dumbest issue i have ever heard. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. And your lack of a response is honestly the dumbest you've posted. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Well, that one fact sums up all of Clinton's initiatives. Nice job. |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. ...Clinton ...the proverbial grandstander ...outsourcing was underway when he was in office |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. What do you do? Did NAFTA effect your salary for better or for worse? |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Tell it like it is! |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. She received an A for excellent on Middle Class Issues |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Welcome to DU! |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. did you even grasp what I said? The EFFECT of Nafta took years |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. Hillary had nothing to do with NAFTA - didn't agree with it. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Except that Hillary was against NAFTA from the beginning. Get a little |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. And you couldn't be more right. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. China and Mexico... India now has the IT jobs. |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Clinton started a good thing. Bush Botched it. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Gee, nice post with well thought-out content. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You might want to research the income |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Well, if Bush can be accused of tinfoil hat theories, why can't Clinton? |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. tech bubble burst, nafta came to fruition and people began to lose their jobs. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. I have an idea .... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. NAFTA may have increased average wages... |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. They also deregulated telecom which caused |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Tsk tsk. I thought he "reluctantly" signed all those things under the spirit of bipartisanship? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. All I know is this, what each candidate chose to do with their life, Obama worked |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. You should really research Hillary's bios |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. i know she has a few different bios out there. Which one do you recommend? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
8. The middle class grew during Clinton's term in office |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Please give us a link!!!!! |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Sorry, here ya go! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Clinton pushed hard for NAFTA and Chine and other "free trade" scams |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
52. The middle class certainly did much better economically and now its disappearing |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
13. bull shit on you! nt |
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beberocks (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
14. The idea of NAFTA was a good one. The better the economy in Mexico |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 AM Original message |
Well spoken, thank you. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Agree, Bush abused NAFTA, |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Yes, we all know the george h w bush had a wondeful idea, and Clinton got it passed, |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. It was a flawesd idea at its core -- Just like all neoliberal free trade |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
16. And Reagan was the Greatest President Ever |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. this is not about Obama/Clinton Its about facts and intelligent discussion. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Who said Reagan was a great president, not Obama nor his supporters. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. NAFTA did not send jobs to China. It sent them to Mexico... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. and then MFN for China sent those jobs to China to undercut Mexico |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
28. And then there's this: |
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libertee (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
32. hell, deep enough..I was in the middle class ten years ago..now I'm just thankful to pay the bills |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
34. Wrong. Bush's implementation of NAFTA caused the problem. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
36. could you explain how a trade agreement with Mexico and |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I'd suggest you look at the bigger picture |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. what's your solution, then? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Lot of answers...I haven;t time to get into it now |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. 1 + 1 = 5; I love these kool-aid posts where everything is blamed on |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
44. are you from the GOP? Only the GOP has this view. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Bullshit. You are more right-wing than this view. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. Not just BAD Trade Policies that sold out the Working Class, |
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maq-az (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. A little Myopic? |
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