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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:09 PM
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Does Clinton need to win BOTH Texas and Ohio to stay in this thing?
Or can she split?

I think she needs to win both and by a wide margin if she's going to stay in this thing. I think she can do well in Ohio, but I really think Obama will take Texas. What happens if Clinton wins Ohio, by 5 and loses Texas by 5?

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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1. She needs both in landslides.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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2. she needs both,
or he will squeak out with more delegates, about 150-200 more then her.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:12 PM
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4. the super delegates could break for her,
if they want to lose the general election. otherwise they have to side with the winner of the pledged delegates.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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3. I beleieve I read somwhere that some of her staff has said...
she has to win both and with large margins.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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5. Yyyep
Pennsylvania too

Big risk here for her. Not on ly does Obama have a head of steam coming into this-especially if he wins Wisconsin next week- but he gets several weeks to campaign and this guy closes gaps like nobody's business.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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6. She needs to win both, and at least one of them by a 15 point or larger margin
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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7. She not only needs to win, she needs to win BIG
She wont help herself just by winning, with proportional delegates she needs lopsided wins to gain enough delegates to overcome the sweeps Obama has put together.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:15 PM
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10. She needs both by HUGE margins.
The supers aren't stupid, especially if they are up for election soon. If they break for HRC based on a a 2% victory in Texas, there will be hell to pay.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:14 PM
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8. Winning the states not a big deal - winning a larger share of the delegates it
Apparently the rules in Texas would allow for a Nevada result, where she may win the state popular vote, but get fewer delegates. Since the name of the game is delegates, a close win in one or both states may not be enough to catch up to Obama, if Obama keeps on winning by larger margins. Depending on which organization is doing to calculations, Obama either already has the lead in delegates or is close behind, and that is WITH the super-delegates factored in. He has a clear-cut lead in the non-super delegates.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:15 PM
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9. I think she needs to take both and do so handily to be able to lay claim to the nomination.
Unless the pledged delegates race (not includ supers) is close after OH & TX (within say 20 delegates), I think she should concede the nomination to Obama and begin laying the groundwork for her supporters and infrastructure to be added to his.


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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:16 PM
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11. She cannot split. Needs to win both. The media is hyping it that Obama must also sweep
If he splits Potomac Tuesday then he'll be vulnerable.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:19 PM
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12. After today we should have a better idea how much she needs for OH/TX
Granted it will be precisely accurate after Wisconsin/Hawaii, after todays expected sweep we should be able to calculate what minimum proportionate Clinton will need to even out with Obama.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:26 PM
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13. Depends on Obama sweeping everything else.

If Obama sweeps nearly everything else, then she will need her big three (OH/TX/PA). Every delegate he does NOT win elsewhere is a delegate she need not win in the big three.


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