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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:33 AM Original message |
Which is a bigger issue: Donnie McClurkin or DOMA? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. DOMA. nm |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama's willingness to sell us out to, and give a platform to, religious bigots, is |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Contrary to popular opinion... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Good enough. As a strategy, that might help to get it repealed. NT |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. What about Don't ask Don't tell......DADT? |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Good enough. As a strategy for Clinton. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You're quite wrong. I do support Cliton largely because of GLBT issues. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. There's a war that's more important |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Gay kids being driven to commit suicide is important. US Citizens being denied equal rights is |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. It's too bad you don't think |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Civil Rights has always been a priority for me, for all people. I'm not willing to sell GLBT |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Barack Obama has worked to give us our civil rights |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. TalkTalkTalkTalkTalkTalk and then Sell Out to Religious Bigots. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I don't give a crap who thinks I'm a sinner |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I give a crap about the impact this construct has on GLBT people - especially kids. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I grew up very painfully as one of those kids. Of course I care |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. There's no need to sacrifice GLBT kids to have healthcare, education and the rest. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I firmly believe Obama will see that doesn't happen. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. And I don't share that belief, at all. I think the religious bigots matter more to him |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I don't - if he were president gay people will be invisible |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Much of Obama's support COMES FROM "kids." |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. With all due respect.... |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. You think what you will |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Agreed in all respects |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. I know a good number of gay men, besides myself, as |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I don't understand how any gay person can embrace Obama |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Mag's you don't see how anyone can give Obama air to breathe |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. He can have air to breathe - no problem |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Good for you... did you hear about his today? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Oh yeah, what "work" did he do? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
82. Do you really think that same sex marriage will fix everything? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Sorry, but no, they aren't more important |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. And I have no confidence that Obama would handle those issues any better |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. DOMA |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. DOMA was a republican idea, pushed on Clinton |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. He signed it. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Yes |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So nothing is the Clintons' fault ever. 15 years later, the devil made them do it. hey? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I already explained what happened |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. You are so full of excuses, that it is actually scary. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Do you know what the vote for DOMA was |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I'm not gay, so I'm stupid! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Did I say anything of the sort? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. So I guess it can't ever be touched, hey? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Why change the subject? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. He could have vetoed it and articulated why it made no sense...... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. And the veto would be overriden easily |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. and? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You failed to explain how his decision |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #67 |
80. what has Obama EVER done for gay people? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. And what kind of legislation do you think Mr Let's Negotiate and Compromise will pass? |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. It remains to be seen... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Actually I can see it right now with Obama |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
77. That puzzles me too |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. HE IS NOT RUNNING |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. But she is running on his record -nt |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. But not on his policies |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. Are you a GLBT person? Are you committed to GLBT issues? Do they impact |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
49. Go ahead and support her |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Like Obama already has, you mean? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. Obama pandering to homophobes, and.... |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Bill is running... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. huh, I wonder why he's not on any ballots then |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Interesting spin... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Not a single politician did |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
18. I'd love to see an end to the special benefits, tax write-offs, etc., made available to marrieds |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Newsome, etc. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. lol well said |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Its the powder blue pantsuits N/T |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Sounds more like you hate yourself |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Or another "gay for a day" poster. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
41. Ah, are you gay or straight to begin with? |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
46. More important than either: equal rights in employment and housing. eom |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Yeah, that'd be a nice start |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. It is a disgrace that anyone should have to move anywhere to get rights |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
54. One threatens people's lives. I'll leave it at that. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
71. And how do you think Obama would've handled DOMA 15 years ago? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
72. The "Ex-Gay" industry is a psycho-spiritual terrorist agenda. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. God didn't "cure" this boy of his homosexuality in time...he was shot. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:15 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I know |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Hey, that sums it up really well |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
81. DOMA, DADT, Denying Civil Unions I'd imagine. McClurkin can say whatever he'd like as long as I get |
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