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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:27 PM Original message |
Personally, I don't think that Hillary OR Obama will do much for GLBT folk. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. kick... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. How much attention can a president really pay to this? |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Just like slavery and segregation |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. trouble is, as bush has shown... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Yeah, like that. And abortion. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I'm not sure that people are ready to go to war |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Education and avoiding the circular firing squad. nt. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. well said |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Exactly. We need to go to war against ignorance and hate. |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Part of that is avoiding the circular firing squad. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, you're right. Education is the best tool. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. If there's anything I know |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. So does continuing to use gay-bashing slurs |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No argument here, nt |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Twinkie in respect to Asians |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Being gay is not a lifestyle |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I apologize for the bad terminology |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. lifestyle implies that it's a choice... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I do wonder... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Human/civil rights are what a President SHOULD be paying attention to |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama has stood up for GLBT issues before |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. anything you have for me...please keep me informed. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Therefore . . . vote Obama? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. As opposed to what? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. As opposed to spending energy and resources to stop this issue from being buried. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. haha, i'm not trying to talk anyone into voting for Obama with my OP... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. See why I don't have my candidate as my avatar? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. hmmm....good point. actually, if anything, i'm just as critical of Obama on this issue as Hillary. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. There's no such thing as a perfect candidate |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. this is true. however, this is an important issue for me... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I think that I agree with you too much on your OP |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm not sure. In the end, you may be right. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The chosen one will be born on the 7th day |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I think its blatantly obvious to anybody that actually reads the OP, that it isnt PrObama. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. California sucks. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Beards suck |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. depends on what your definition of "much" is |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. well...ideally, i'd like to see gay marriage in every state. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Its not |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Its not |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. that would have to be a state issue, not a federal issue. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'm doubtful as well |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Both are also very shrewd and calculating. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think Obama is going to push for civil unions/domestic partnerships |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. based on what? i'm not trying to be snarky, i just would like to hear your reasoning. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. He has said as much. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. I will do that when I have a few minutes... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Overall, I agree with you on this. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. That will cause more harm than good. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Agreed. No half-measures. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Possibly some sort of loud popping sound with lots of splatter. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. I would pay cash money to see that. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. I don't expect a lot either - so I need to look to who will do the least harm, or if things |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. A very honest and thoughtful reply. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I only ever considered Clinton, Obama and Edwards as serious contenders. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Hmm...sounds pretty reasonable to me. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. As I said in another thread.... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I wish I were from a culture that doesn't discriminate against gays. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. I love the notion of "two spirit people" |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'd like to thank every poster on this thread |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Reasonableness is the most effective troll-repellent. nt. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Isn't that the truth. It works like a charm. nt. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I was expecting to be torched. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. You didn't pick a side. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. I agree. It will be low on their list of priorities. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. This is also true...I'm presuming (and hoping I'm right) that at the very least... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. I suspect you are pretty much correct on this. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Haha, well now. Hadn't noticed that =) |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. I don't either. I do not see gay marriage as part of either's agenda. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Can we trust the states to do the right thing? |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think you're correct - throwing GLBT under the bus plays well to the crowd, unfortunately |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. well, like i've said before...McCain will make it an issue... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
70. I don't think we'll have great advances should Hillary become president |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Why is that? Because of McLurkin, or for other reasons? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. McClurkin, Kirbyjon Caldwell |
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