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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:13 PM
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Please, if you don't mind, would you help me refute these two scurrilous claims against Saint Obama?
It's just a user post to an anti-Obama blog, I know, but I'm sure there will be hundreds of Obamanians who will provide me with a verifiable list of Obama's Senatorial accomplishments that will put this idiot to rights, won't there?

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http://ht4e.blogspot.com /

Obama's Congressional Record

110th Congress, Obama: no bills.

109th Congress, Obama:
S.2125 : A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/16/2005) Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 109-456

S.3757 : A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the "Katherine Dunham Post Office Building". Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 7/27/2006) Note: For further action, see H.R.5929, which became Public Law 109-333 on 10/12/2006.


This is it folks! This is a listing all of the bills that Obama sponsored that were voted into law during his entire term in Congress. This is that great "record" all you Obamaniacs are touting. This is why you want to make him the most powerful man in the world.
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And while the Obamanians are rightly putting this scurrilous claim to rest, perhaps they would also help me with this one:

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_el_pr/obama_b...

"I'm happy to give Deval credit, as I give credit to a lot people for spurring all kinds of ideas," he said. "But I think that it is fair to say that everything that we've been doing in generating excitement and the interest that people have in the election is based on the core belief in me that we need change in America."

Asked whether he wished he would have given him credit given the criticism he's facing, Obama responded: "I was on the stump, and he had suggested that we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I'm sure I should have — didn't this time."

"I really don't think this is too big of a deal," he said. He said he's noticed Clinton using his phrases sometimes, like "it's time to turn the page" and "fired up, ready to go."
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I'm sure that since Obama doesn't think it's a big deal to use other people's lines, and he noted that he's OK with Hillary using his lines too, why are so many Obamanians so obsessed with using Rovian tactics against Hillary for something their own candidate not only does himself, but thinks it's OK to do, and specifically notes that Hillary does it too?

:flamesuit on:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:14 PM
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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8. Almost as amazing as Walt Starr's "Skinner, tombstone me!" post.
Redstone
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:18 PM
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10. No one addressed the issues
And I'm sure the other thread was locked because I asked about Obama's penis, not because I asked these two questions.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:18 PM
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12. If you really want to know about his penis, you should maybe take him to dinner and a movie first.nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:21 PM
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18. I agree
But please keep the penis talk out of this thread. The only reason I mentioned it before was to get people to read my thread, but it got out of hand too quickly. I do really have two substantive questions that no one will address, including you. Or will you?

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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:27 PM
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25. It got out of hand?
Man, you can't help yourself can you. Only thing worse than a troll is a lame troll.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:22 PM
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19. Yeah, sure. Issues. Uh, huh.
Redstone
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:15 PM
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2. Yeah, you do know its against DU rules to repost a thread that was locked?
LOL way to waste two threads.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:20 PM
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16. You misread the rules
You also misconstrue as to why the other thread was locked. I would like to know if you can list Obama's senatorial accomplishments. I really don't know if the poster I linked to is correct, and I'm curious if these are really the only two things Obama has done in his entire senatorial career. That can't be, and surely you can correct this... can you?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:30 PM
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32. No you misread
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:35 PM
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37. You know, I've been on here since it started
And I've been through many battles yet never been tombstoned. You might ask yourself why is that? Maybe it's because I'm a Democratic fighter and a liberal through and through. Just because you don't like to face up to adversorial commentary doesn't mean I'm going to be tombstoned. I'm even an advertiser on here you know.

:)
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:37 PM
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39. So are you saying they won't tombstone you because you are a paying advertiser?
Wow! So you are buying your way out of being tombstoned? WOW!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:42 PM
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42. You appear to have comprehension problems
I'm saying, as I directly stated, I'm a staunch liberal, and to prove that since you don't like my posts, I mentioned that I advertised here. A tombstone candidate would not be one who advertises on liberal web sites. That fact appears to escape you, or perhaps you escape it deliberately.

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:45 PM
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43. Or one that advertises on any site gets a pass of things that someone else might not. . .
. . .you can attack my comprehension all you want. But the fact of the matter is you stated you are an advertiser and any good business (DU is a business) knows not to piss off an advertiser. I have seen staunch liberals get kicked off this site since day one, so your ideology does not insulate you from being tombstoned. But something does.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:56 PM
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50. Now you're the one doing this insinuating
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:56 PM by Cronus Protagonist
For the record. I have no doubt that DU would tombstone an advertiser if they were even slightly freeperish. You, however, appear to take the opposting viewpoint, something that I never said or insinuated myself.

And also for the record, I advertised in the past, and am not advertising right now. I shut down the business I used to advertise for, as the record will clearly show, should anyone care to look into it, so your insinuation holds no water if I'm to be used as a foil for that.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:16 PM
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3. Why would this get locked? Did the DUbamas flame it up?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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6. Probably had something to do with the part he cut out this time, demanding to know
if Obama was circumcised.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:30 PM
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31. There's a difference between demanding to know and asking a simple question
Apparently your coloration of the thread reflects your opinion, not the facts.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:19 PM
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14. Might have something to do with third-grade-level name calling.
Such as, oh, I don't know...your post?

Redstone
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:20 PM
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17. No, he expressed a deep and intimate fascination with Obama's penis. n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:22 PM
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20. I do admit I'd like to see it, but please keep this on topic
The other thread was locked for the penis joke, and I don't want this one to be locked because you want to have a side discussion about the locked thread. Can you or will you refute the two points in the OP?

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:16 PM
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4. Don't you have something better to do than to troll blogs that ...
...are raging against any Dem candidate?

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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9. That's what they are sent to do. He's only doing what the Borg commanded. n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:27 PM
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26. No one commands me, but it's interesting that you think that is the case
Am I also spending Scaife's money to do this? hehe

:P
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:25 PM
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23. I didn't troll the blog, I have no time for that
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:25 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Bartcop posted it on his web site and I thought surely that blog poster is completely wrong. There's no way someone can spend years in the Senate and wind up with only these ridiculous acomplishments. However, since the most knowledgeable people on Obama are here on DU and none has been able to refute the reference, it appears the content is true despite the source being questionable.

As for point # 2, I don't see a line of people here denouncing Obama for the exact same thing they denounced Hillary for just a few short days ago.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:16 PM
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5. It is a violation of DU rules to re-post locked threads.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:29 PM
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29. Luckily, I didn't repost that thread then, isn't it?
As you could see, it's simply not the same thread, if you looked at it even for a scant few seconds.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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7. Congressional Medal of Douchebaggery for you. n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:29 PM
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30. Thanks, that's REALLY burying the hatchet, isn't it? n/t
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:18 PM
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11. The difference is...
The difference is that Clinton is stealing from a rival's campaign (Edwards and Obama), without his permission. That's lame.

Deval and Obama have collaborated and swapped ideas with each other's permission and encouragement. That's normal.

Big difference.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:33 PM
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35. Finally, and thanks for actually addressing the OP
I see the point, but didn't MLK first use "I have a dream" and I don't think Obama got permission for that. And hasn't almost every politician in America used the line "Si se puede" and "change" in some form or another?

Perhaps there's something else that was used, not something that Obama took from someone else that Hillary used, but something that is uniquely Obamas that would rise to plagiarism, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere. Could you link me to something like that?

And what do you have to say about Obama's Senatorial accomlishments? Is that list incorrect? (I hope so, for all our sakes).
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:10 PM
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57. Wait a minute.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 06:12 PM by woolldog
Is the argument that it's plagiarism because (1) he said those famous quotes without proper attribution

or

(2) that he borrowed Deval Patricks theme of " <insert famous saying>, just words?"

I always assumed it was #2 because #1 is so patently ridiculous. Everyone knows who uttered those phrases, they are famous. In fact the point he's making absolutely depends on the assumption--and I think it's a reasonable one--that the listener already knows that those are JFK, MLK, and Thomas Jefferson's words. Otherwise his point completely loses it's rhetorical effect.

Your second point about these phrases/themes that Hillary has stolen: there's the one she took from Edwards about blockbuster video and illegal immigration. There's also the "yes we will", the fired up ready to go etc. True Obama didn't invent those phrases, but how many people invent phrases these days? The point is that he used them in this context (presidential race) before she thought to do so; they are his signature and she tried to appropriate them from her chief rival's campaign. That makes her look desperate. Obviously borrowing catch-phrases from her husband's campaign, which she's done, isn't an issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080218/cm_huffpost/087209

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4652708&mesg_id=4652708

As for his legislative accomplishments, people have posted on that issue ad nuaseum (so have I) and I don't feel like getting into it. That list is not representative, imo.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:17 PM
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58. I think, since Obama hiimself stated that the claims of plagiarism are not important
That perhaps his supporters would do the same. I happen to agree with Obama on this. There are few truly original things that can be said these days, particularly in political campaigns, and it's common practice to use the other candidate's issues if they are the ones that are gaining traction. I think both Obama and Hillary know that this is a non-issue, so I'm surprised to see how charged these claims still appear to be.

I got it about his legislative accomplishments. The comment and link in the OP was taken from Bartcop.com for today's issue of his blog, so they are current and I thought that Barack's accomplishments could not be that light even for a junior senator. Another poster, actually two of them, pointed me to links which I now have bookmarked, and which both show actually a rather strong legisltative record for a junior Senator. I also sent the correct info to Bartcop in anticipation of him posting it in his next issue.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:19 PM
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13. Suicide poster, part deux.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:36 PM
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38. Do you always sit on the sidelines and predict the future?
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:36 PM by Cronus Protagonist
I wish you would have addressed the OP instead of pontificating.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:42 PM
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63. You Got Some Nerve Implying The OP, Here Since 2001, Should Be TS'd, You Arrogant Silly Little Thing
What the OP did was perfectly acceptable, and I can't help but laughing my ass off at your ignorant arrogance. :hi:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:20 PM
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15. Thread recap: Obamites flaming the poster of the OP but 0 answers to the questions
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:23 PM
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21. Ah, but we DO manage to have a steady supply of name-calling, don't we?
No shortage of that around here. Just like in third grade.

Redstone
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:24 PM
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22. A bit disingenuous:
Aren't you aware of the facts?

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:27 PM
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27. From your posts, since people don't seem to like the linky-links:
Not a fairy tale: Once upon a time there were several bills sponsored by Obama that Hillary deemed important enough to co-sponsor.

S.453
Title: A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 1/31/2007) Cosponsors (20)
Related Bills: H.R.1281
Latest Major Action: 10/4/2007 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 411.
Senate Reports: 110-191 COSPONSORS(20), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 1/31/2007
Sen Brown, Sherrod (OH) - 5/8/2007
Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. (MD) - 1/31/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 1/31/2007
Sen Coburn, Tom (OK) - 9/6/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 9/6/2007
Sen Feingold, Russell D. (WI) - 1/31/2007
Sen Feinstein, Dianne (CA) - 1/31/2007
Sen Johnson, Tim (SD) - 6/4/2007
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 1/31/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 1/31/2007
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. (LA) - 3/19/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. (NJ) - 12/5/2007
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 1/31/2007
Sen Levin, Carl (MI) - 3/6/2007
Sen McCaskill, Claire (MO) - 6/4/2007
Sen Menendez, Robert (NJ) - 12/19/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 1/31/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon (RI) - 6/4/2007
Sen Wyden, Ron (OR) - 7/25/2007

______________________________


S.823
Title: A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to facilitating the development of microbicides for preventing transmission of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 3/8/2007) Cosponsors (18)
Related Bills: H.R.1420
Latest Major Action: 3/8/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. COSPONSORS(18), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Bingaman, Jeff (NM) - 3/12/2007
Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 3/8/2007
Sen Brown, Sherrod (OH) - 3/22/2007
Sen Cantwell, Maria (WA) - 5/24/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 3/8/2007
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. (CT) - 3/8/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 3/8/2007
Sen Feinstein, Dianne (CA) - 5/14/2007
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 5/14/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 3/8/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. (NJ) - 6/4/2007
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 3/12/2007
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 3/27/2007
Sen Murray, Patty (WA) - 4/26/2007
Sen Sanders, Bernard (VT) - 4/25/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 3/8/2007
Sen Smith, Gordon H. (OR) - 3/20/2007
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. (ME) - 3/8/2007

____________________________________

S.1067
Title: A bill to require Federal agencies to support health impact assessments and take other actions to improve health and the environmental quality of communities, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 3/29/2007) Cosponsors (3)
Related Bills: H.R.398
Latest Major Action: 3/29/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 3/29/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 3/29/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 3/29/2007

_____________________________________


S.1068
Title: A bill to promote healthy communities.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 3/29/2007) Cosponsors (2)
Latest Major Action: 3/29/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. COSPONSORS(2), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 3/29/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 3/29/2007

________________________________



S.1306
Title: A bill to direct the Consumer Product Safety Commission to classify certain children's products containing lead to be banned hazardous substances.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 5/3/2007) Cosponsors (9)
Latest Major Action: 5/3/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. COSPONSORS(9), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Brown, Sherrod (OH) - 9/5/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 5/3/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 5/3/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 9/4/2007
Sen Klobuchar, Amy (MN) - 7/23/2007
Sen Sanders, Bernard (VT) - 9/4/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 9/4/2007
Sen Stabenow, Debbie (MI) - 9/4/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon (RI) - 9/5/2007

_____________________________

S.1811
Title: A bill to amend the Toxic Substances Control Act to assess and reduce the levels of lead found in child-occupied facilities in the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 7/18/2007) Cosponsors (2)
Related Bills: H.R.3085
Latest Major Action: 7/18/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Environment and Public Works. COSPONSORS(2), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 7/18/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 7/18/2007


______________________________


S.2044
Title: A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 9/12/2007) Cosponsors (6)
Latest Major Action: 9/12/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. COSPONSORS(6), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 9/19/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 9/24/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 9/12/2007
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 9/12/2007
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 9/24/2007
Sen Murray, Patty (WA) - 9/12/2007

______________________________________

S.2132
Title: A bill to prohibit the introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce of children's products that contain lead, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 10/3/2007) Cosponsors (6)
Related Bills: H.R.3743
Latest Major Action: 10/3/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. COSPONSORS(6), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Brown, Sherrod (OH) - 10/30/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 10/3/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 10/3/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 10/3/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 10/3/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon (RI) - 10/3/2007

_______________________________________


S.2347
Title: A bill to restore and protect access to discount drug prices for university-based and safety-net clinics.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/13/2007) Cosponsors (31)
Related Bills: H.R.4054
Latest Major Action: 11/13/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. COSPONSORS(31), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Baucus, Max (MT) - 11/14/2007
Sen Bingaman, Jeff (NM) - 11/13/2007
Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Brown, Sherrod (OH) - 11/13/2007
Sen Cantwell, Maria (WA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Carper, Thomas R. (DE) - 12/3/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 11/13/2007
Sen Collins, Susan M. (ME) - 11/13/2007
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. (CT) - 2/12/2008
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 11/14/2007
Sen Feinstein, Dianne (CA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Harkin, Tom (IA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Klobuchar, Amy (MN) - 11/13/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. (NJ) - 12/5/2007
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 11/13/2007
Sen Levin, Carl (MI) - 12/11/2007
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. (CT) - 12/3/2007
Sen McCaskill, Claire (MO) - 11/13/2007
Sen Menendez, Robert (NJ) - 11/13/2007
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 12/3/2007
Sen Murray, Patty (WA) - 11/13/2007
Sen Nelson, Bill (FL) - 12/11/2007
Sen Sanders, Bernard (VT) - 12/3/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 11/13/2007
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. (ME) - 12/11/2007
Sen Stabenow, Debbie (MI) - 11/13/2007
Sen Tester, Jon (MT) - 11/15/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon (RI) - 11/15/2007
Sen Wyden, Ron (OR) - 11/13/2007

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S.CON.RES.53
Title: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 9/20/2005) Cosponsors (23)
Related Bills: H.CON.RES.247
Latest Major Action: 9/20/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration. COSPONSORS(23), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Akaka, Daniel K. (HI) - 9/20/2005
Sen Bayh, Evan (IN) - 9/29/2005
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 9/20/2005
Sen Corzine, Jon S. (NJ) - 9/20/2005
Sen Dayton, Mark (MN) - 9/20/2005
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. (CT) - 9/20/2005
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. (ND) - 9/20/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 9/20/2005
Sen Feingold, Russell D. (WI) - 9/20/2005
Sen Harkin, Tom (IA) - 9/20/2005
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 9/20/2005
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 9/20/2005
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. (NJ) - 9/20/2005
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 9/20/2005
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. (CT) - 9/21/2005
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 9/20/2005
Sen Pryor, Mark L. (AR) - 9/20/2005
Sen Reid, Harry (NV) - 9/20/2005
Sen Salazar, Ken (CO) - 9/20/2005
Sen Sarbanes, Paul S. (MD) - 9/27/2005
Sen Schumer, Charles E. (NY) - 9/28/2005
Sen Stabenow, Debbie (MI) - 9/20/2005
Sen Wyden, Ron (OR) - 9/20/2005

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S.969
Title: A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to preparation for an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 4/28/2005) Cosponsors (9)
Related Bills: H.R.3369
Latest Major Action: 4/28/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. COSPONSORS(9), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Bayh, Evan (IN) - 7/26/2005
Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 9/27/2005
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 10/20/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 6/9/2005
Sen Inouye, Daniel K. (HI) - 7/26/2005
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. (LA) - 10/5/2005
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. (CT) - 7/15/2005
Sen Lugar, Richard G. (IN) - 7/26/2005
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 10/17/2005

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S.1180
Title: A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to reauthorize various programs servicing the needs of homeless veterans for fiscal years 2007 through 2011, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 6/7/2005) Cosponsors (6)
Latest Major Action: 6/9/2005 Senate committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Committee on Veterans' Affairs. Hearings held. COSPONSORS(6), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 4/26/2006
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 12/16/2005
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. (ND) - 7/13/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 7/14/2005
Sen Johnson, Tim (SD) - 6/13/2005
Sen Murray, Patty (WA) - 7/21/2005

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S.1975
Title: A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/8/2005) Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.R.4463, S.4069
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration. COSPONSORS(4), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 12/12/2005
Sen Feingold, Russell D. (WI) - 12/12/2005
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 11/10/2005
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 12/12/2005

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S.2045
Title: A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/17/2005) Cosponsors (1)
Related Bills: H.R.4370
Latest Major Action: 11/17/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance. COSPONSORS(1), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 4/3/2006

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S.2047
Title: A bill to promote healthy communities.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/17/2005) Cosponsors (1)
Latest Major Action: 11/17/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. COSPONSORS(1), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 11/17/2005

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S.2048
Title: A bill to direct the Consumer Product Safety Commission to classify certain children's products containing lead to be banned hazardous substances.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/17/2005) Cosponsors (3)
Related Bills: H.R.668
Latest Major Action: 11/17/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 4/26/2006
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 7/27/2006
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 4/3/2006

____________________________

S.2125
Title: A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 12/16/2005) Cosponsors (12)
Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 109-456 (GPO: Text, PDF) COSPONSORS(12), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Brownback, Sam (KS) - 12/16/2005
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 6/19/2006
Sen Collins, Susan M. (ME) - 6/19/2006
Sen Dayton, Mark (MN) - 6/29/2006
Sen DeWine, Mike (OH) - 12/16/2005
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 12/16/2005
Sen Inhofe, James M. (OK) - 4/24/2006
Sen Johnson, Tim (SD) - 6/29/2006
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. (LA) - 6/29/2006
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. (VT) - 4/24/2006
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. (CT) - 6/29/2006
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 6/29/2006

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S.2179
Title: A bill to require openness in conference committee deliberations and full disclosure of the contents of conference reports and all other legislation.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 1/18/2006) Cosponsors (9)
Latest Major Action: 1/18/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration. COSPONSORS(9), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Bayh, Evan (IN) - 1/26/2006
Sen Bingaman, Jeff (NM) - 1/25/2006
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 1/25/2006
Sen Dayton, Mark (MN) - 2/9/2006
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 1/27/2006
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 1/30/2006
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 1/31/2006
Sen Nelson, Bill (FL) - 1/25/2006
Sen Salazar, Ken (CO) - 1/25/2006

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S.2201
Title: A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to modify the mediation and implementation requirements of section 40122 regarding changes in the Federal Aviation Administration personnel management system, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 1/26/2006) Cosponsors (38)
Related Bills: H.R.4755
Latest Major Action: 1/26/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. COSPONSORS(38), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Akaka, Daniel K. (HI) - 1/31/2006
Sen Baucus, Max (MT) - 4/24/2006
Sen Bayh, Evan (IN) - 4/26/2006
Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. (DE) - 5/3/2006
Sen Bingaman, Jeff (NM) - 3/3/2006
Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 3/16/2006
Sen Byrd, Robert C. (WV) - 5/3/2006
Sen Cantwell, Maria (WA) - 1/31/2006
Sen Carper, Thomas R. (DE) - 2/2/2006
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 2/1/2006
Sen Conrad, Kent (ND) - 4/3/2006
Sen Dayton, Mark (MN) - 3/27/2006
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. (CT) - 2/28/2006
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. (ND) - 1/31/2006
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 1/27/2006
Sen Feingold, Russell D. (WI) - 3/16/2006
Sen Feinstein, Dianne (CA) - 4/24/2006
Sen Harkin, Tom (IA) - 4/7/2006
Sen Inouye, Daniel K. (HI) - 1/26/2006
Sen Johnson, Tim (SD) - 2/28/2006
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. (MA) - 1/31/2006
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 2/7/2006
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. (NJ) - 1/26/2006
Sen Levin, Carl (MI) - 4/6/2006
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. (CT) - 4/24/2006
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. (AR) - 4/27/2006
Sen Menendez, Robert (NJ) - 2/7/2006
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. (MD) - 2/1/2006
Sen Murray, Patty (WA) - 1/26/2006
Sen Nelson, Bill (FL) - 4/27/2006
Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin (NE) - 3/7/2006
Sen Pryor, Mark L. (AR) - 3/16/2006
Sen Reed, Jack (RI) - 2/28/2006
Sen Reid, Harry (NV) - 1/30/2006
Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV (WV) - 3/14/2006
Sen Salazar, Ken (CO) - 2/14/2006
Sen Stabenow, Debbie (MI) - 4/7/2006
Sen Wyden, Ron (OR) - 2/14/2006
______________________________________________


S.2348
Title: A bill to amend the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 to require a licensee to notify the Atomic Energy Commission, and the State and county in which a facility is located, whenever there is an unplanned release of fission products in excess of allowable limits.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 3/1/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.R.4825
Latest Major Action: 9/25/2006 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 637.
Senate Reports: 109-347 COSPONSORS(4), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 9/12/2006
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 9/25/2006
Sen Durbin, Richard (IL) - 3/1/2006
Sen Voinovich, George V. (OH) - 9/25/2006

_______________________________________

S.4069
Title: A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (IL) (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.R.4463, S.1975
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration. COSPONSORS(4), ALPHABETICAL (followed by Cosponsors withdrawn): (Sort: by date)


Sen Boxer, Barbara (CA) - 12/5/2006
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham (NY) - 12/5/2006
Sen Kerry, John F. (MA) - 12/5/2006
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. (LA) - 12/5/2006

_______________________________________
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
45. I'm sending this to Bartcop
This is what he needs to see so he can correct the other thread he linked to.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #27
64. Did all those become law?
That's the topic under discussion - not what bills he's sponsored. It's what bills he's introduced or sponsored that became law.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. I'm just releived to hear that he sponsored more than little milquetoast crap like in the OP
I don't fault him, or any Democratic leader, for not being able to get good legislation through a Republican Senate with a snarky little fuckwit Republican president. I want to know that Obama was up to the job, and I think that enough evidence was provided to say that he's certainly got a decent record on the matters that count.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. But the OP
doesn't claim he didn't sponsor much. It lists those bills he introduced that became law.

I don't know if it's true or not. I'm just saying the answer provided above is not in respone to the question asked.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. That's true, and on second thoughts, I still wonder if the OP is true
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:20 PM by Cronus Protagonist
You know, if Obama wins the primary, we'll get hammered with this if it is.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #22
44. THANK YOU
Although it appears you posted that to support an unsupportable argument, finally someone has given me the material I need to refute the blog poster's claims. That was like draining blood from a stone!

I bookmarked that thread and wish you had spoken up earlier.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #15
41. True, that.
And I also noticed that people seem to think here that the last thread was tombstoned for asking the two questions, when that clearly was not the case. I wonder why the Obamanians think that their candidate should get a pass and Hillary should be grilled. I also wonder why the Obamanians don't question why the media is giving Obama a pass.. Why trust the media now, when they've shown us for the last 16 years that they are a right-wing propaganda and population control system?

And I still want answers to my two questions :)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #41
49. The media is giving Obma a pass because they want him to beat Hillary so we'll get President McCain
for 8 years.

Obama is almost being willed into the general election by the media, but the day after he gets the nod...if he does...the media will turn on him like a pack of wolves and he'll be toast. The Obamaites will be sitting there stunned, wondering WTF happened, it'll be over so quick.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. That is clearly what is happening
And when one draws the Obamanian's attention to it, one gets personally attacked. I wanted Obama's record to be corrected, and it took about fifty posts before someone actually answered the questions I had. And when it was answered, and I am relieved to find out the linked claims are incorrect, I took action to help Obama's record not be stained by the accusation. I want to win in November, but it seems some people don't.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #52
59. They don't really care
82% of the Obamaibites are here for one reason only: Stop Hillary. Most of them could give two shits about Obama or the fact that Obama will get trounced by McCain. I can just see it now...Obama going up against McCain and the moderator of the first debate asks both of them how they'll go about defending the country from those horrible old terrorists who are hiding in the bushes outside our bedrooms. That will be the beginning of a quick end to our chances in November. I love how the Obmaites all think that Obama can beat McCain because current polls say that he has a better chance of beating McCain than Hillary right now. Hahahaha, the day after Obama wins the nod, if he does, all those poll numbers go right out the window because then the opposition will put all of their concentration on Obama, and him only, with Hillary out of the picture. Obama's electability rating will plummet like a lead balloon once he's the nominee officially.

The only chance we have of beating McCain is by running Hillary. She's just hawkish enough (I know, not a great quality) and smart enough to take on McCain and crush him in a time of war...and we will still be at war, come November, which is something very few Obamanites seem to understand.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #59
68. You know, I wish I could say things as clearly as you
I tend to polarize, mostly for fun, but I concur with your analysis, and perhaps that's the analysis of most of us old-timers here who've been through a few campaigns. But there's no reaching the idealistic newbies, and since they're overwhelmingly online, most appear to be also overwhelmingly naiive, quick to turn nasty, and impetuous as a rule, we have little chance of opening their eyes in time to correct the course.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #15
46. Isn't that always the case. They're just like their idol, all hot air and no substance. lol
BTW, isn't it amazing how you can get scolded for calling Obamites "Obamites" but the same people doing the scolding never say a friggin thing to the ones who are quilty of doing 99.5% of the name-calling and starting 99.9% of the flames...the Obamaites. As always, it's selective criticism at DU.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. See replies #27 and #47.......for lots of "substance". n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
60. Do you, too, want to know about Obama's penis?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
24. Concern trolling is such a bore
If you want to criticize, go ahead - why dress your criticisms up as something they're not?

Meanwhile, here's Obama's US senate record (summarized from his page on Wikipedia, which includes web links for all references). I am only including bills that Obama had a hand in actually writing or sponsoring, as opposed to the many bills he's voted on:

In 2005, he co-sponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" introduced by Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).<54>

He later added three amendments to the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act", which passed the Senate in May 2006, but failed to gain majority support in the U.S. House of Representatives.<55>

Partnering first with Sen. Dick Lugar (R-IN), and then with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), Obama successfully introduced two initiatives bearing his name. "Lugar-Obama" expands the Nunn-Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles and anti-personnel mines.<58>

The "Coburn-Obama Transparency Act" provides for the web site USAspending.gov, managed by the Office of Management and Budget (and based off of the more extensive fedspending.org, managed by OMB rival and partner OMB Watch). The site lists all organizations receiving Federal funds from 2007 onward and provides breakdowns by the agency allocating the funds, the dollar amount given, and the purpose of the grant or contract.<59>

In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.<60>


In the first month of the newly Democratic-controlled 110th Congress, Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.<65>

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.<66>

Obama's energy initiatives scored pluses and minuses with environmentalists, who welcomed his sponsorship with John McCain (R-AZ) of a climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050, but were skeptical of his support for a bill promoting liquefied coal production.<67>

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.<69>

He sponsored the "Iran Sanctions Enabling Act" supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry,<70> and joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.<71> A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.<71>

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.<72> After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."<73>


As for the silly 'plagiarism' charge, that's been discussed to death already and I see no point in wasting more energy refuting it.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #24
48. Thanks, someone else posted a better list, but thanks for at least answering the OP
I sent the correction to BartCop, and I'm pretty sure he'll print it. Not that it was Bart that attacked Obama's record, he posted the links I have in the OP, so I'm sure he'll be happy to post a corrected record.

Here's what I sent to Bart:


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bart,

It appears to be false, and my “friends” at DU were able to provide me with a list of Barack’s accomplishments, which are actually quite strong for a junior senator. Check this out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4665476&mesg_id=4665748
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
28. again
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. No this is condone by the moderators. . .
. . .they know its a dupe, they have been alerted on it. Also, they are paying attention to it, they deleted the first response some time ago, yet they are allowing the thread to stay open. This duplicate is condoned by the moderators.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
34. It is going to be nice to see you TS'd
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:43 PM by GoPsUx
:loveya:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #34
53. I hope you don't have to wait too long
I've been on here since 2000.

:P

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #53
61. Just sittin' around, waiting for the site to come online
in 2001?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Sorry I was not clear
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 06:39 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Since Election 2000, which I believe was only a couple of months complete when I joined DU.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #34
70. Only Obamites openly threaten to ban critics. What thugs
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #70
71. Remember some people on here are paid operatives
I usually just figure the ones that are the most rabid are most likely to be so.

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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:34 PM
Response to Original message
36. Just like your hero, can't abide to live by the rules.
Disgusting.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:03 PM
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54. I do live by the rules, same as you
Except I post interesting theads and you puke on people. To each his own.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:38 PM
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40. Cronus, I think I may be of some assistance
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:04 PM
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55. Hahahaha, good one
It took a few seconds to sink in, but at least the OP didn't get flamed for it :P
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:51 PM
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47. Here's a poster who has done an excellent job of listing
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:52 PM by snappyturtle
Senator Obama's accomplishments: (Warning--it is long)

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/pol/572093737.html

Here's just a little taste:

The Washington Post wrote in an editorial that "...Mr. Reid, along with Sens. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.), deserves credit for assembling and passing this package." In September 2007, the AP reported, "President Bush signed a bill Friday that will require lawmakers to disclose more about their efforts to fund pet projects and raise money from lobbyists, a measure that backers call the biggest ethics reform in decades...Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. who had pushed for the bundling provisions and was one of four lawmakers who participated in a Democratic conference call to reporters said the measure marks "the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate."
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Hope this helps.

Edit: Don't worry....bill numbers and dates of passage are included.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:05 PM
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56. Thanks, I bookmarked that as well - everyone should read it
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 06:06 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Ammo is seriously needed these days if we want to win in November, and that is one nicely done post. Thanks for posting it. Unlike most people on here, I'm planning on winning in November no matter who our candidate is.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:52 PM
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65. I feel the same way. n/t
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