My Hate Post

[cali]

Taylor Marsh is a deplorable piece of filth. A political whore.
She's worse than kkkarl, who at least sticks to fucking over the opposition party. Charming Taylor is swiftboating Obama in the ugliest possible way. She is beneath contempt. And so is anyone who post's crap like this:

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

There's no excuse for it. None. And if you cozy up to her, you're no better than she is.

[jillan]

1. Then she makes up for Olbermann.

He spends at least one segment on every show bashing Hillary BUT never
says one thing against Obama.

[goldcanyonaz]

3. Agreed. Can't even stomach him anymore.

I never listened to Taylor Marsh.

[cali]

6. I don't watch TV

but if Olberman's ever tried to swiftboat Clinton the way that bitch has with Obama, then I'd agree. Has he tried to hang a Willy Horton around Clinton's neck? If so, then he's as bad as that thing.

[jillan]

14. Well - if dissing her on every show counts for swiftboating - I would

have to say yeah.

I have never really paid much attention to Taylor Marsh.
When I was supporting Biden, she was pretty rough on him too.

[KAZ]

21. So, now Olbermann Swiftboats Clinton?

[jillan]

25. He's not very nice to her.

He calls her out on every little thing, yet never says a negative word about Obama.
:shrug:

Right now he has Jesse Jackson on defending Michelle Obama.

Think whatever you want.

[KAZ]

45. Maybe I don't watch him as much as you do. I usually catch...

.. his show maybe every other day or so. I always watch the special comments. The only time I see him go negative on a Dem, is when a Dem goes negative hypocritically. I'll try to watch for bias more carefully in the future.

[MagickMuffin]

48. Jesse Jackson was on to BLAST Bill O'Rielly

Of course, you wouldn't see or hear that at ALL.

Go Figure:shrug:

[KAZ]

53. Hmm. What might one deduce from that attitude?

Probably best not to answer.

[Bongo Prophet]

54. Jesse Jackson was indeed on to blast O'Reilly for his lynching statements. I agree with that.

I am not sure what you are implying about MMuffin - she is a long time DUer and not a freeper by any means.

I would bet that you don't like the use of the term "lynching" either, so we all likely agree on that.

The heat of discussion makes it hard for us to hear each other, I think. :hi:

[KAZ]

58. No, I wasn't clear. My comment wasn't directed at MM's post.

[Bongo Prophet]

63. It's cool, KAZ - sometimes the thread order can be a source of confusion.

The heat to light ratio here is really bad. I am sure we could do better, but am tired of being a net nanny about it.

Just saw a possible error in communication, and wanted to mitigate that. :thumbsup:

[jillan]

65. You are right - I was wrong.

When I posted that, JJ was defending Michelle - then they went into Bill O'lielly's comments.

Sorry:blush:

[MagickMuffin]

72. Thanks for acknowledging your mistake

As a consolation prize, let it be known Keith Olbermann does NOT vote.

I wouldn't even care which candidate he likes, we have two VERY good candidates and I'll be voting for one of them in November, which ever one makes it that far.

[Bongo Prophet]

61. Actually, Pirhana - Jesse is dissing O'Reilly for the "lynching" comments.

I guess that is indeed defending Michelle, and I would do that too.
I would also defend ANYONE from statements like BillO has made.

It would disappoint me if this primary has made you so bitter as to support lynching comments, just because it was against your "opponents" spouse.

That is just sad.

[jillan]

67. You're right.

I just posted my apology above.

[Bongo Prophet]

71. I do appreciate that, pirhana. We need to start talking together, it really hurts us to fight.

All my life, the left/liberal fights have diminished our power and our common goals. It saddens me to see the pattern repeated, especially now, after the bush fiasco. I will be proud to vote for either of our candidates, both of whom are more centrist that me.

To paraphrase Licoln (and give due credit ;)) -- a party divided against itself cannot stand.


Let us kick some elephant this november, eh?

[jillan]

77. I agree - there is way too much anger in the Dem party right now.

But I believe we will all get along when we have our nominee.

[jgraz]

62. Yeah, that whole "reporting the truth" is just beyond the pale

:eyes:

[TheDebbieDee]

64. I have had to give up Ed Schultz, Keith Olbermann and Jon Stewart

all within the last 3 weeks over the constant Hillary bashing.

And the Stephanie Miller show got on my last damn nerve weeks ago - the show is like a daily 3-hour infomercial and testimonial for Barack Obama. I my have to give that show up, too. At least until after a nominee has been chosen.

[jillan]

79. What do people see in her? I never liked her - even before

the primaries.

They put her show on in Az about a year ago during morning drive time, and people were pissed.
She replaced a local guy that used to have a great show. He would have on people who lived in Iraq, great interviews, great thought-provoking discussions. Instead now we have silly Stephanie -yuck.
Thank goodness Diane Ream is on another station the same time she is.

[TheDebbieDee]

81. The Stephanie Miller show is funny......

when she and the Mooks are not bashing Hillary or fellating Obama.

[rodeodance]

89. i know---for the most part Left radio has endorsed

Obama--

[jgraz]

100. Winning elections by 30 point spreads does tend to make one popular

People don't like your candidate. Why is it so hard to understand?

[rodeodance]

102. I expect some objectiv.

[jgraz]

106. KO is an anchor, not a reporter. Learn the difference.

[rodeodance]

119. Lecturing again I see. Changing the topic does not change my point.

[jgraz]

124. You have no point. You're just whining about someone being mean to your candidate

You said below that you didn't expect Olbermann to act like a biased reporter. My point is that he's not a reporter and it's his JOB to have an opinion -- as it is with EVERY talk radio host, right or left.

Get it? They are PAID to have a point of view and to voice it on the air. You have no business expecting anything else from them.

[shaniqua6392]

111. I have given up on the same shows as you.

Especially Ed Schultz. He has become downright venomous with regards to Sen. Clinton. He also is a frequent guest on MSNBC shows and he is the same way. Then when someone calls him on his show complaining, he vehemently denies being biased. Stephanie and her "Mama's for Obama" is driving me crazy. I just wanted a little balance so I can be assured that the media is not choosing our next President for us. But they have done just that in my opinion.

[Auntie Bush]

130. I really can't think of a single show that doesn't bash Hillary and sing the praises

of Obama. I've also never heard a single question or negative comment about him on any Chanel.

[JoFerret]

70. He is easily swayed.

He is in LOVE.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

122. What does Michelle Obama need to be "defended" from?

Are you saying you buy into the RW jingoism?

[Cha]

30. KO gives out facts about hilary and

they call it "swiftboating".

[jillan]

38. If he did the same about Obama - than it wouldn't even be an issue.

[KAZ]

46. Can you provide us with an example? Nothing long or ..

.. involved. Just something you felt was unfair. TIA

[jillan]

49. Let's see -

last week he did an entire segment of Hillary saying negative things about Obama.
But didn't once mention how Obama always talks about Hillary.

Tonite he ripped her to shreds over her debate performance.
But not one thing about Obama's.

It's not so much what he says, just how he says it.
His tone. His body language.

He is definitely an Obama supporter and does nothing to hide it.

[KAZ]

52. I agree, I think he's an Obama supporter. I didn't see the ...

.. "neg" thing last week, and only caught the Worst Person tonight. Unfortunately, I'm usually to busy reading fricking DU while the show is on, so I don't catch the visual stuff. Is there one thing he said, either last week or tonight, that particularly made you upset?

[jgraz]

78. EVERYONE is ripping on Hillary's debate performance

Is there one commentator who says she did well last night?

[rodeodance]

87. "Clinton's answer was a stronger performance; Obama seems like he's about ready to get out of here."

Hillary's Reviews Are In: 'Standing Ovation,' 'Really Scored,' 'A Stronger Performance'
by Lindsay Levin
2/21/2008 10:31:02 PM

CNN's Campbell Brown notes a 'standing ovation' in response to Hillary's closing remarks.

CNN political analyst David Gergen - Hillary's last statement 'was the most effective moment she's had on television, I believe, since the New Hampshire primary… really scored on that.'

Politico's Ben Smith - 'Clinton's answer was a stronger performance.' "Clinton's answer was a stronger performance; Obama seems like he's about ready to get out of here."

CNN's Bill Schneider - Hillary 'just made an effective argument against John McCain.' "Clinton just made an effective argument against John McCain: Though the Arizona senator is a champion against wasteful spending, Clinton pointed to his support for the Bush tax cuts and the war in Iraq - both colossal expenditures unpopular with most Democrats."

NBC News' Chuck Todd - Hillary 'had a couple of very good moments on health care and the economy.' "Did she potentially win this debate on points; I think so; it was close but she had a couple of VERY good moments on health care and the economy that probably scored well in the various focus groups of undecided voters watching this debate."

New Republic's Michael Crowley - 'The subject of health care always brings out a formidable passion and policy fluency in Hillary.' "So much of the time politicians just seem to be going through the motions when debating the issues. But the subject of health care always brings out a formidable passion and policy fluency in Hillary. People can call her a phony for all kinds of reasons but it's clear she really gets and cares about this stuff."

ABC News' Rick Klein - Hillary 'sounds calm, in charge, deliberate.'

MyDD's Todd Beeton - 'Hillary Clinton just hit that closing response out of the park.' "Hillary Clinton just hit that closing response out of the park."

[rodeodance]

88. You really do need to inform yourself before you spout off.

[jgraz]

93. Irony, thy name is rodeodance

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming that you just didn't bother to research what you posted. The other option is that you are deliberately presenting misleading information.

Here's the full quote from Chuck Todd, the only person you list who actually says Hillary "won" the debate (on points):

As for the big picture, the question for everyone watching this debate is: Did Clinton do anything tonight to change the trajectory of this race? And the answer is no. Did she potentially win this debate on points; I think so; it was close but she had a couple of VERY good moments on health care and the economy that probably scored well in the various focus groups of undecided voters watching this debate. Obama was uneven, at times great (like in his answers on Iraq and his speeches) but sometimes he seemed to go through the motions. It may be because he was a bit stuffed up; he was good tonight, not great. But he made no major gaffes (for the primary) and more importantly the one great rehearsed attack line Clinton had for Obama (about change you can xerox) seemed to fall flat. But Clinton needed a game-changing moment and she didn't get one tonight. And this is how this debate will be judged.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/22/114137/986

Not exactly what I'd call a ringing endorsement. Do you still count Todd as someone who says Hillary did well last night?


Y'know, google is a wonderful tool. You should really use it to explore a few more sites outside of HillaryClinton.com.

[rodeodance]

101. I did not say win

[jgraz]

105. It's about what I said

If you're going to snark about someone being uninformed, you should at least do them the courtesy of making sure they're actually wrong first. Your response was a cheap attempt to score points with no effort whatsoever to verify that your cut-and-paste job had anything to back it up.

[ErnestoG]

104. Getting BOOED can have that effect.

[rodeodance]

86. I was so surprized to see KO talking like a biased reporter. damn that hurt.

[jgraz]

94. Yeah, those special comments of his are always so objective

You're just realizing now that KO has a point of view? :eyes:

[rodeodance]

103. stay focused will you. We were talking pres. candidates.

[jgraz]

107. Sorry, I thought you could hold more than one thought in your head. My bad.

In the future, I'll try to deal with your misinformed statements in a more organized fashion. If only they came out that way...

[Rockholm]

55. He never has a sour word for Obama.

But smashes Hillary at every opportunity. I can barely watch him anymore. As soon as he starts his bashing of HRC, I turn the channel.

It will be interesting to see his ratings this month. Bet they go down.

[jgraz]

95. Hillary is running a terrible, low-ball campaign. Face the facts

What specifically has KO said that could possibly be called "bashing"? He's just reporting what most of the people already know: Hillary is a loser as a candidate.

[jgraz]

98. ""The Facts" about Obama: He's going to be our 44th president

No thanks to DU's crop of bitter Hillary supporters who are doing their best to tear him down.

[Rockholm]

139. Likewise.

[BeatleBoot]

33. I would say he's pretty much a dick to her, yeah.

An unfounded Dick when he swiftboats her....

[cbayer]

35. Weren't the beatle boots enough?

You are taking up a lot of my bandwidth, babe.

[KAZ]

47. OK Beatlespam, could you provide an example of

his dickishness?

[jgraz]

97. Beatleboot just changed his handle to CricketNoise.

[JoFerret]

74. Yes.

.

[jgraz]

96. Care to back that up with... oh, I don't know ... some facts?

[roguevalley]

134. I wondered how long it would be before people would turn on Keith.

SIGH!

[UALRBSofL]

28. pirhana ain't that the truth

Now when he comes on I turn the channel to either CNN or Faux. I started noticing he has no expressions when he speaks. He's like this monotone voice and just sits there with that one tone voice flapping his gums about Hillary. It's good to see someone else posted about him. My partner says he's cute but he looks like a "great dane" face to me. :)

[jillan]

41. Great Dane - lol.

That's perfect.

[emilyg]

42. I don't bother with him anymore.

[Auntie Bush]

69. I think all the Hillary supporters should email him and tell him what we now think of him.

[ErnestoG]

85. I'm sure he'll be absolutely crushed.

[Political Heretic]

75. If Obama's campaign was in freefall it would be different.

If Obama had been the presumptive nominee of the party for over a year it would be different.

Hillary is making more negative news than Obama. That's just the way it is, sorry.

[ErnestoG]

84. Maybe because he LIKES Obama better.

ever think of that?

[NoBorders]

128. Not even CLOSE!

OMG, you've got to be kidding.

[bvar22]

132. Olberman "Swiftboating" Hillary?

I don't think so.
Can you please document when and where Olberman had fabricated untrue stories about Hillary?

Olberman was the first to call out Hillary on slamming Obama for "plagerism", and then using "borrowed" lines in her closing at the Texas debates.
That kind of stuff is far from Swiftboating.

Valid criticism using documented facts and quotes is far from swiftboating.

If you are going to accuse Olberman of "Swiftboating", then you will need to document your charge.
Otherwise, you are just whining.

[bvar22]

133. Olberman "Swiftboating" Hillary?

I don't think so.
Can you please document when and where Olberman had fabricated untrue stories about Hillary?

Olberman was the first to call out Hillary on slamming Obama for "plagiarism", and then using "borrowed" lines in her closing at the Texas debates.
That kind of stuff is far from Swiftboating.

Valid criticism using documented facts and quotes is far from swiftboating.

If you are going to accuse Olberman of "Swiftboating", then you will need to document your charge.
Otherwise, you are just whining.

[gateley]

2. I've seen references to her here (unflattering) so I've never paid any attention -

but who IS she?

Please don't make me read her bio - just tell me. I trust you.

[cali]

4. She's an influential blogger

who's on the Clinton side and has been on and may still be on the Clinton payroll. Just click the link and read for something truly ugly. And this is just her latest piece of slime.

[gateley]

11. Thanks. I wasn't sure if she was a newscaster, an "expert" guest on talk

shows or what.

Just the first few things I read indicated that she's firmly in Hillary's camp.

Thanks again!!

[HughMoran]

24. On a positive note

I've heard of her too (prolly here), but I had no idea what she was about until reading your post. :D

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. I Don't Get It. What Was So Wrong About That Post?

I found nothing ugly about it. What parts pissed you off so much? I'm just curious.

[NMMNG]

9. The part where she doesn't have her lips applied to Obama's ass

:shrug:

[jonnyblitz]

26. HA! she called what's-his-name Elmer Gantry!

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

31. She does have a way with words.

:evilgrin:

[Raejeanowl]

83. OMG

I'll have to read it. She said what I've thought and wanted to say more than once. Changed my mind because it was TOO incendiary around here.

[MonkeyFunk]

10. The part where she didn't call Clinton an evil bitch

and sing Hosannas to Obama.

[cali]

15. No. the part where she's trying to make up a "Willie Horton"

out of whole cloth to hang around Obama's neck. And sorry, I'd say the same thing about anyone trying to do that to Clinton or any other dem presidential candidate. I don't care if she attacks him on all kinds of things and I've never criticized her for bashing him before, but this is pure Lee Atwood. And it stinks to anyone with an ounce of decency.

[Reterr]

37. "And it stinks to anyone with an ounce of decency."

How do you make statements like this and still portray yourself as some sort of beacon of rationality on here? You know what? I looked at that site and I disliked the Willie Horton thing very much, but it didn't make me believe that that woman is a "piece of filth" based on that...

I didn't like some of the stuff on there-some of it sounded like something any non-partisan, normal Dem would say (like her interview with John Kerry).

Seriously, do you set yourself up as arbiter of all things moral or something? I have seen many things said by Obama supporters here that I have found disgusting (women over 50-lol-that is all she got. Yeah whatever, old, fat uneducated hags like her) and I will give you props for usually calling the really vile ones out. Where you sound less rational is when you say choleric, over the top stuff like "anyone with an ounce of decency". A person with an ounce of decency can look at that site and not decide the Taylor Marsh is the filthiest, vilest person alive. Get some perspective-this campaign isn't the litmus test by which we all decide a person's worth.

Do I like what I have seen of her from that site? No not really-but I will spare that extreme level of outrage for something more substantial than a partisan political hack (and you have enough of those on your team) doing what they are paid to do (I suppose). This is a filthy business-most of these people aren't angels.
I don't understand posts like yours.

[Reterr]

39. Oh and...

You just posted the stuff you called trash. You gave her site more traffic...Great job :eyes:.

[Bongo Prophet]

57. Cali, do you mean Lee Atwater? Or Lee Atwood "Proud to be an American?"

either an unintentional error, or a subtle double entendre, referencing jingoism and an ex DU disrupter troll?

Either way, kinda funny.
Lightening the mood in here would be nice.

[bettyellen]

135. you think it's a good thing he went to a political meeting with unaplogetic terrorists?

went to their home and consulted about local political races?
that's not whole cloth, it's not being denied, is it?

[cali]

12. She is openly trying to create a "Willie Horton"

for Obama out of innuendo. I mean first of all, that's a despicable thing for any dem opinion maker to do to a dem presidential candidate, and secondly, there's no there there and she knows it.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. And we certainly

would hate to see innuendo against Clinton here, wouldn't we?

:eyes:

[bigtree]

22. or vicious personal attacks against supporters

[cali]

32. Yes. If someone wrote something like this about Clinton

I'd hate to see it. I object to this crap, and I've defended Clinton against smears and sexist bullshit. I jumped on someone today for crap about her.

[MonkeyFunk]

40. Innuendo

like "What is she hiding?" because she hasn't released her tax returns? Or the totally bogus claims that the Clinton Library donor list isn't being released because he's hiding something, and NOT the real and obvious reason that charitable donations are private? Stuff like that?

Or is it only an invalid smear when it's against your guy?

[UALRBSofL]

56. Monkeyfunk, did you read where she was trying to connect Obama with Ayers?

Ayers was considered a terrorist of the 60's blowing up buildings, I think he blew up a bomb at the Hoover building, and he had a bomb blow up in his home killing his girlfriend and 2 other people. Anyway, he claimed the marines were communists or something like that and publicized it. After the bombings he went into hiding. Anyway, he's a Chicago University professor and in 2001 in his book stated he would do it all over again, including the bombings. Well, apparently he contributed to the Obama campaign. That's the extent of there connection from what I know.

[MonkeyFunk]

73. And have you read the threads here

accusing Bill Clinton of running a drug operation out of Arkansas? Or the people who speculate that Hillary would have her political opponents killed? Or the attempts to tie her to Rezko because one photo was taken of them 12 years ago at a fundraiser for somebody else?

Your side just LOVES to throw the shit at Clinton, and god forbid anybody should say anything about Obama - then you get self-righteous about "fairness" and "innuendo".

Your side's in for a big shock when the GE really gets underway.

[UALRBSofL]

76. Monkeyfunk What are you talking about?

I have heard all those accusations but not on DU. However, they aren't true. The drug operation was out of Saline County, Arkansas where the 2 boys were killed on the railroad tracks but that was a local government inside job, nothing to do with Clinton. As for the people that have died that were in Clinton's administration, they had nothing to do with that either. The Rezko photo was one of millions of pictures taken of the Clinton's over the years. I'm not sure why I feel like your attacking me but I was just commenting on the Ayers connection.

[MonkeyFunk]

108. I'm not attacking you

All of those things I mentioned have been used here by DUers against the Clintons.

I'm simply saying that the most spurious of accusations are made here by Obama supporters all the time, and I find it humorous that they get so bent out of shape by Marsh's column.

[UALRBSofL]

50. cali, she isn't able to create a Willie Horton

Reason being, Obama was just a baby when Ayers was committing what I call terrorists activities. Seems Ayers was a member of Weather Underground, a non-violent anti-vietnam protest group. Back then even Hillary was an anti-vietnam protester. Ayers didn't represent Weather Underground at all. Back then people would compare them to today's Al-Qaeda, which they were nothing alike at all being a non-violent group. Now, fast foreword to today. Apparently Ayers contributed to Obama's campaign but what I have read that's the extent of it. Whether they have a closer friendship I don't know. That said, if all there is to it is a contribution I wouldn't worry to much about it.

Several months ago I was watching a program on PBS and it featured several people who were members of weather underground. It was interesting seeing them now after they aged and talking about there experience in the 60's.

[MoonRiver]

125. I keep being amazed by the hypocrisy.

If BO gets the nom I will be out of DU, because if I don't go voluntarily, I will definitely get banned. :D

[DURHAM D]

13. Yep - I enjoyed reading it and glad to have the link.

Not sure what the problem is. Some Obama supporters have very thin skin. This OP admitted upthread she doesn't watch tv. Maybe if she did she would have a better idea of how her candidate has been carried in a bubble by the MSM.

I worry about the acolytes.

[emilyg]

43. Nothing is wrong.

[FrenchieCat]

7. I try not to hate.....,but Taylor Marsh makes that very difficult.

I'm with you as much as I can be, Cali! :hi:

[lapfog_1]

113. What did I say about premature Olive Branches the other night?

Look at the responses on this thread from the usual suspects.

After Obama wraps up the nomination, I don't know I'll be in any mood for the kum-by-ya with these creatures. Ever.

I don't like Hillary. I don't like her votes or her policies. I don't like her campaign tactics.

But mostly, I don't like her supporters.

[Barack_America]

8. I try not to pay her bills by giving her clicks...

Was there anything particularly vile that she said today?

I guess I could go over to Hillaryis44 and I'll surely find them all fawning over it.

[Mike03]

16. Cali, you rock. And Kick and Rec/NT.

[robbedvoter]

17. Thank you! Bookmarked. Very thoughtful. (I guess I am a contrarian too)

I shall make a point to check this daily.

[zalinda]

18. Thanks Cali, I wouldn't have known about her

radio show if you hadn't pointed the way. I'll have to read her site, very interesting.

zalinda

[bigtree]

20. I've seen similar partisan attacks from you. Just because YOU assume you're fair or correct

in your strident criticisms doesn't make you infallible.

And, I don't see a thing wrong with what was written at the link you provided.

[cali]

29. you have not. I have NEVER attacked Hillary like that.

Not even close. And if you don't see anything wrong with trying to create a "Willy Horton" for Obama, that's prettty shocking. The worst I've ever done is refer to Clinton as Hilly. And no, I don't think I'm infallible. Tell me why you think it's OK for Marsh to try and swiftboat Obama and create a Willy Horton to hang around his neck. I'm really interested in why you think that's just dandy.

[bigtree]

36. I hope it's just primary prattle. Marsh will be steamrolled together with Nader and the rest

when we choose our nominee, if she still thinks Obama is good sport for her attacks and persists. Right now, it's hard to distinguish her stuff from the Clinton haters'.

[Auntie Bush]

68. To put it politely... that not true!

"The worst I've ever done is refer to Clinton as Hilly. "
You've never said a decent thing about Hillary. You are one of Hillary's worst offenders here. It takes nerve/chutzpa to complain about someone else.

[kid a]

23. just looked at the site for the first time - sad sad sad. RW smear machine

Thats sad and will be bad for all Dem's is a few weeks.

And you people smearing Olbermann? Shoot...take a look at his Special Comments.
Who else in the media is exposing GW *bush for his crimes..

Sore losers hate...sad

[bellasgrams]

51. I just checked the site and saw nothing wrong. She is pro

Hillary but said nothing terrible about BO. Just the normal things that the rest of us see in him. Is this the first time you've tuned in to the election process?

[rodeodance]

117. that just might be---Is this the first time you've tuned in to the election process?

[Coexist]

27. who is Taylor Marsh?

[rodeodance]

121. a very good blogger who is doing msm's medias job of scrutinzing Sen. Obama.

[H2O Man]

34. Nominated.

Thank you.

[whatchamacallit]

44. I don't get the Hendrix video

Is that her weird-ass way of saying "it's not a black thing, I've got Jimi"? Or is there something else I'm missing?

[UALRBSofL]

59. Jimi Hendrix was used as imagery

You know the 60's, Ayers, Weather Underground. I think that's why they used the video for the connection.

[whatchamacallit]

66. Ah... thanks.

[H2O Man]

109. Jimi

funded radical groups. Though he wasn't publicly associated with them, he supported them.

[JI7]

60. she is a disgusting piece of shit, belongs with John O'Neill

and the other swift boat scum that went after Kerry.

i agree, she is worse than Rove.

[rodeodance]

120. my my--one blogger sure gets you in a huff. Get used to your Savior being scrutinized.

60. she is a disgusting piece of shit, belongs with John O'Neill

and the other swift boat scum that went after Kerry.

i agree, she is worse than Rove.

[JI7]

137. get scrutinized like O'Neill and liars did to Kerry ?

we should get used to scumbags spouting hateful lies ?

[JI7]

138. get scrutinized like O'Neill and liars did to Kerry ?

we should get used to scumbags spouting hateful lies ?

[mtnsnake]

80. Thanks, cali, for turning me on to this site. Overall, it looks really good!

And to think I would never have known about this if it weren't for you. :)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

92. Hope you're happy. Bill Clinton pardoned a bunch of those characters.

So either way, Hillary or Barack are screwed on that score. Taylor Marsh, what a great patriot! Not.

[Straight Shooter]

82. She does make sense in this paragraph:

Oh, and though I am a Democrat, my loyalties are to the ideology and the causes, not to any one person, whether we're talking Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. That is not to confuse me with The Progressive Village, those bloggers (and radio hosts) whose credibility is in the crapper since going into the tank for Obama. Joe Biden is the most knowledgeable on foreign policy, but no one cared. The progressive rot at the core of this primary season revealed through the collective shrug John Edwards received, whose ideas were the most populist and progressive of all. He got little or no support. The first viable female candidate was vilified and rejected, especially by men across the progressive network, finally revealing the covert sexism running through the Democratic party, that was also exposed in the traditional media and cable networks as well. If Obama goes on to win the nomination it will tell the story, which isn't just about Hillary Clinton. All Democratic candidates, every one of them more qualified and with better ideas, pushed aside for Elmer Gantry with a website.

She is not the first to compare Obama to Elmer Gantry, by the way.

As for any association, direct or indirect, with the Weathermen, not a good thing. The Black Panthers were considered radical and yet managed to gain a lot of respect, first within their own communities and culture, and then the respect grew as they grew in wisdom and political acumen. Not so the Weathermen. When I think of "Black Panthers," I think of pride. When I think of "Weathermen," I think of bombs.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=685949&format=print

Weathermen believed these things were wrong. Its members were so certain these things were wrong and - more importantly - that the Weathermen were right that they planted bombs in public buildings, blowing up bathrooms and empty offices.

People got killed. I don't mean to be dramatic. The ideologically driven Weathermen - and those who imitated them - didn't kill nearly as many people as the ideologically driven Timothy McVeigh, or Pol Pot, or the 9-11 hijackers. They killed only a few people.

Still, Rudd feels bad about it. The Weather Underground was a mistake, he told the gathering. We were arrogant. We were crazy. We were wrong. You could tell, just looking at him, that he felt bad. Still, watching him speak, I couldn't help but feel something close to revulsion. Invited to Milwaukee by the UWM chapter of Students for a Democratic Society, there he was, declaiming American imperialism. I'm not saying that I find his positions offensive. What I found offensive was his willingness - his eagerness, it appeared - to get in front of a group of people and talk. Just like old times. My 17-year-old son went with me to hear Mark Rudd. As we were leaving, he said he hoped I wouldn't be too critical. He's a good speaker, he said. I learned a lot, he told me.

I told him he didn't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

91. Apparently, Bill Clinton pardoned a whole bunch of those radicals.

But that doesn't matter because in the general election it will hurt Obama. I hope you are happy when they are using it to defeat "Elmer Gantry" against John McCain.

[Straight Shooter]

99. Just so you know, I'm no fan of Bill Clinton.

And I'm sure Obama will have more than his fair share of supporters providing a substantial bulwark of defense against all charges.

[lapfog_1]

112. So you are just piling on to, what, test the bulwark?

Instead of helping with those defenses?

In other words... With friends like you, who needs repukes?

[Straight Shooter]

126. Piling on? Read the post again.

Piling on would mean I'll forward the link to friends of mine.

Yes, you do need "repukes" as you so eloquently put it. Obama has made that exquisitely clear.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

116. So you can vote for McCain then.

After all, he's got decades of "real" experience. :eyes:

[Straight Shooter]

129. How do you make the leap from pointing out he'll have plenty of support to my voting for McCain?

I have said repeatedly I'll vote for your idol, just like I voted for Kerry, simply to salvage the Supreme Court. But so far, I remain very concerned Obama will nominate "moderates" to appease the Repubs.

McCain is lousy in the environmentalist realm. That's a major issue for me. So, no, take your kneejerk conclusions and put them in a little place where the sun don't shine, 'kay?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

90. I've ventured into her swamp a time or two.

It's really disgusting. As one of the few "Obamabots" she permitted to post said: "I think you are auditioning to be the next Lee Atwater"

I agree with that. She is really a piece of work. She has no qualms about derailing the Dem nominee, if that person is not Hillary Clinton. She is handing the GOP every bit of red meat they need to Swiftboat Obama.

I hope she can live with herself when her barbs are used against him in the general election.

[lapfog_1]

110. Looked at one article...

all you need to know:

"Back in 1980, I was one of those Reagan Democrats (however short-lived). Like I said, all this 70s talk, even in the midst of the current Democratic wave going on, is a bad omen."

She was a Reagan Democrat. Let me repeat... she was a Reagan Democrat.

The worst possible judgment by anyone as a voter, possibly in the history of our country.

[robbedvoter]

115. You mean, BO's natural base - not seeing the light? How revolting!

[rodeodance]

118. The bubble effect does that .

[lapfog_1]

136. I suspect that Reagan Democrats

are firmly in Hillary's house...

Just like this Marsh person.

[Adelante]

114. "The Antidote for Right Wing Talk" is how she bills herself, the nerve

:puke:

[Connie_Corleone]

123. The scum on the bottom of my shoe is better than Marsh.

And that's the nicest thing I have to say about that piece of trash.

[Thrill]

127. Shes is off the deep end right now

Attention whore is what she is

[Catchawave]

131. Just what we need on DU....more hate

on the Greatest Page :silly:

TM was rough on John Edwards too, I didn't "hate" her, I just didn't read her blog. This thread will just drive up her traffic, so I guess something good will come of it.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/