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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:29 AM
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HILLARY CLINTON, IN CHINA, DETAILS ABUSE OF WOMEN
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CEFDF133DF935A3575AC0A963958260

Speaking more forcefully on human rights than any American dignitary has on Chinese soil, Hillary Rodham Clinton catalogued a devastating litany of abuse that has afflicted women around the world today and criticized China for seeking to limit free and open discussion of women's issues here.

"It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights," Mrs. Clinton told the Fourth World Conference on Women assembled here.

While her comments concerned abuses that have taken place around the world -- the burning of brides occurs in India for example, and rape has most recently been a tactic of war in Bosnia -- her words took on a special resonance here in China, where the Administration has muted its public criticism of human rights abuses and is struggling to patch up frayed political relations.
China's reaction was uncertain tonight. Beijing's relations with Washington have been strained by a summer of tumult over the visit to the United States in June by the president of Taiwan, Lee Teng-hui.

As Mrs. Clinton recited her litany from the podium, many delegates applauded, some cheered and others pounded the tables.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:30 AM
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1. She gave a Speech?
But, but, but.....

I thought she said, Forget about speeches and big rallies? :wow:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:34 AM
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3. but but but...I thought you loved speeches
And this one was not a selfish political speech to garner votes. This was a speech to help women around the world. And now one of the 100 best speeches made by an American.

And you belittle it.

So ugly.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:58 AM
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12. So if someone gives a speech to inspire the masses here in America
it is useless.

But if Hillary Clinton gave a speech in 1995 in China about the women there, it stands for, "now I can answer the red phone" qualifier.

How drole.

You belittle yourself in this case.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:05 AM
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17. I know that you don't want to give Clinton credit for anything
so you pretend you don't understand the difference between a speech given to the world about chiding powerful foreign governments to their faces and one given to the crowd at the local stadium to gain votes to win the election.

I know that you love it when Obama gives a speech to the hometown crowed, but when Clinton tries to change the world--she is drole.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:31 AM
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2. When did HRC have time to go to China?
Oh, wait, that was 13 years ago.

Good for her, but I'm still pushing Obama.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:35 AM
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4. Yep, she was very courageous to give that speech!
I read that the Chinese government was furious and wouldn't allow it to be broadcast in China.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:38 AM
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5. Thanks EE
K&R
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:45 AM
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6. It shows her strength and convictions. She would be a great President.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:47 AM
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7. She WILL be a great President.
And we'll be lucky to have her.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:00 AM
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13. Maybe she should have given a speech on those who were being
macheted in Rwanda one year ealier, men, women and children...... Maybe that would have shown "conviction and strength". :eyes:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:56 AM
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16. yes, frencie cat. Rwanda is all her fault
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:54 AM
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8. I have a real problem with American politicians
commenting on the loss of any human rights. Where does she get off? The rights of the American citizens have gone down the toilet while she was off preaching to China. Give me a break.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:54 AM
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9. Remarkable woman.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:55 AM
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10. WE are controlling Afghanistan and Iraq . . . and the abuse of women there
is something that I can't quite understand either the "press" nor Democrats raising with Bush!!!


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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:57 AM
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11. she'll be a great president n/t
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:16 AM
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15. K&R
Hillary Clinton will make great president and leader.

She is a true insipiration. She is the "real deal"!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:08 AM
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14. Happy to give K&R #5.
Thanks Hillary. I remember when you did this. Republicans across the country had yet another conniption, for all the usual reasons, and you fought on, and you're still fighting. Thanks.
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