Obama: "Real change isn’t about changing your position to fit the politics of the moment."

[jefferson_dem]

Obama Remarks for Saturday

Remarks Prepared for Delivery for Stand for Change Rally in Providence, Rhode Island today

If we want real change, we need leaders in Washington who say what they mean and mean what they say. I don’t want to just tell everyone what they want to hear, I’ll tell people what they need to know. Because real change isn’t about changing your position to fit the politics of the moment. And that’s the choice in this election.

Real change isn’t calling NAFTA a victory and saying how good it was for America until you decide to run for President, like Senator Clinton did. I won’t stand here and tell you that we can stop every job from disappearing because of trade, but I will tell you that when I am President, we will end the tax breaks for corporations who ship our jobs overseas and give them to companies who create good jobs right here in America. That’s real change.

Real change isn’t saying that you’ll stand up to lobbyists and special interests when you’ve taken more money from Washington lobbyists than any Democrat or Republican running for President, like my opponent has. I’m the only one in this race who’s actually passed laws to take power away from lobbyists, they haven’t funded my campaign, and they will not drown out the voices of working Americans when I am President. That’s real change.

Real change isn’t voting for a bankruptcy bill that makes it harder for working families to climb out of debt and then saying that you’re glad it didn’t pass once you start running for President. One of the first things I did when I got to the Senate was fight against the credit card industry’s bankruptcy bill, and when I am President, we’ll reform our bankruptcy laws so that CEOs can’t dump your pension with one hand while collecting their bonus with another. That’s real change.

And real change isn’t voting for George Bush’s war in Iraq and then telling the American people it was actually a vote for more diplomacy when you start running for President. The title of the bill was “A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq.” What else were you voting for? I knew what it was, and that’s why I opposed this war from the start, and why I will bring our troops home when I am President. That’s real change.

You know, I am reminded every day, if not by events than by my wife, that I am not a perfect man. And I will not be a perfect President. But I promise you this – I will always tell you what I think and where I stand. I will be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, even when we disagree. And I will wake up every day in that White House thinking and working and fighting to make your lives a little bit better. That’s real change, and that’s the change we’ll have when I am President.

http://thepage.time.com/obama-remarks-for-saturday/

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. NAFTA

He is sure a great talker. Actions speak louder than words.

[jefferson_dem]

3. Exactly.

Hillary's flip-flop on NAFTA is just another illustration of how she's exactly what this country does not need - four more years of politics as usual.

[MagsDem]

10. You mean Obama

on Sept. 8, 2004, he said that Americans "benefit enormously from exports, and so we have an interest in free trade that allows us to move our products overseas. The United States should continue to work with the World Trade Organization and pursue deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, but the country must be more aggressive about protecting American interests."

Sure sounds to me like he supports NAFTA.

[Dems Will Win]

27. Dang! He's trying to finish her off NOW

[SoFlaJet]

4. keep telling yourself that

because you will have a decision to make very soon-sometime next week as to who you are going to support Obama, McCain or Nader because Clinton will NOT be on your ballot in November-learn to accept that now-it'll be a lot less painful later

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. SoFlaJet

Thanks for your concern. But, I see Obama for who he is and what he is. And I have already made up my mind, thank you very much.

And what bothers me is that--Obama supporters don't care that he called Canada and said, "I am going to lie to the American people, just ignore it."

[SoFlaJet]

14. which means what?

who will you cast your vote for in November since it WON'T be Hillary Clinton on your ballot?

[MagsDem]

20. In my case, no one

Sorry, I value by principles and values more than any party. I can't tell you how many times I cursed rethugs that mindlessly voted for Bush, the worst president in history, instead of voting their principles and values. I am not about to compromise mine for the fraud that is Obama just because he has a D after his name. And I have voted dem in every election for every candidate for 30 yrs.

[SoFlaJet]

23. then what are you doing on a political site called DEMOCRATIC Underground

if you have no desire to support the DEMOCRATIC nominee? Go over to TMZ or someplace with the rest of the unconcerned

[MagsDem]

28. I'm here because I'm a democrat

How about you? If you're here only because you support Obama, maybe you should start a discussion site called Obamaunderground or something.

[kid a]

44. Will you vote for Obama in NOv

[Dems Will Win]

29. Stop repeating lies that have already been debunked.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA/RuyouHU0hII/AAAAAAAAAAc/eB1_hnP758g/s200/Hillary-Tata+Smooch.jpg

Google Tata and Clinton and see what you come up with!

She's outsourced jobs from NY almost personally...

[Evergreen Emerald]

35. It has not been debunked. You are refusing to look at the truth.

That is what millions did with Bush too.

[Arkana]

41. The Canadian government has denied it. Obama's camp has denied it.

And you think WE'RE delusional? You guys are inventing shit that simply isn't there.

[Arkana]

40. Apparently you've ignored the news reports

that said that this story was absolutely false and an utter sack of crap.

[journalist3072]

2. So says the man who admitted that he tailored his remarks on Iraq in 2004, because he didn't want to

hurt John Kerry and John Edwards in the GE.

If that's not changing your tone to fit political winds...I don't know what is.

[Skip Intro]

6. ding...ding...ding - he\'s a huge hypocrite

[DJ13]

11. Are you going to remain bitter after Hillary quits?

[SoFlaJet]

16. yea they will DJ

and there are few people here that will deserve to have it rubbed in their faces when it happens

[MagsDem]

21. You said you don't need Hillary's voters in the GE, remember?

Obama doesn't need us. That's what we've been told over and over again. So okay. No problem.

[Skip Intro]

25. Facts will remain facts no matter who is the nominee, nothing to do with being bitter, thanks.

That seems to be a label some would like to adhere to Hillary supporters, but it does not apply here.

He said himself he softened his rhetoric on Iraq and the IWR in 04 for political reasons. That is a fact. In the context of this thread, that makes him a hypocrite.

[MagsDem]

8. Oh, it's okay when Obama does it, don't you know that?

He's so completely full of shit it's embarrassing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

13. And this type of behavior is common for him--he has a pattern

of saying one thing and doing another and of saying one thing later changing his statement.

IWR / NAFTA / Kyl-Liberman / Illegal Immigrants and driver's license.

[journalist3072]

15. Exactly right!!!!! eom

[MagsDem]

5. Real change isn't about cursing lobbyist money, then taking it...

Real change isn't saying you don't take PAC money, then raising your own to contribute to super delegates that are congressional reps. Real change isn't saying you're against the war, then voting to fund it from day one of being in office. Real change isn't hiring another on-the-job trainee for president.

[sandnsea]

12. well it sure isn't

getting in bed with the lobbyists and being proud of it and committing to stay there, or supporting a war and pretending you didn't, or being cozy with Indian business while pretending you're going to change trade, or claiming your husband's experience as your own except when it doesn't match your rhetoric, or claiming to be an advocate for women when you would be nothing without your husband's name...

[MagsDem]

17. Sandnsea, your guy is a fraud

And that is the point. You're buying a pig in a poke.

[sandnsea]

37. You've got the pig and the poke

All any Hillary supporter has said from day one is that Obama IS AS BAD AS Hillary. The measure is the scum of being Hillary and your defense is Obama has scum on his toe so he's just as bad. How can you not see that?

[Window]

7. Now, that's what I'm talking about.

Thanks for sharing.



Peace:thumbsup:

[Cha]

18. This is Gold..only 4 Rec'ds?

"You know, I am reminded every day, if not by events then by my wife, that I am not a perfect man. And I will not be a perfect President. But I promise you this – I will always tell you what I think and where I stand. I will be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, even when we disagree. And I will wake up every day in that White House thinking and working and fighting to make your lives a little bit better. That’s real change, and that’s the change we’ll have when I am President."

[MagsDem]

22. LOL -- he isn't even honest about Lobbyist and PAC money

And it looks like he has already elected himself. Man, is he arrogant or what?

[Cha]

32. Oh Great..9 recs and I won't be replying

to the Ignored crap, of course.

[KLee]

19. Go Obama!

Thanks for posting.

[uberblonde]

24. He's taken lots of money from special interests.

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_lobbyist_line.php

Last August The Boston Globe, in a piece by Scott Helman, took a hard look at Obama’s contributions, noting that “behind Obama’s campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth.” That truth revealed that as a state legislator in Illinois, a U.S. senator, and as a presidential aspirant, Obama had collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs. Helman quoted an Obama campaign spokeswoman saying that after he experienced firsthand the influence of Washington lobbyists, he was taking a different approach to fundraising than he had in the past, and that “his leadership position on this issue is an evolving process.” If Obama’s leadership on campaign financing is indeed evolving, more news outlets should be following the evolution.

[backwoodsbob]

26. will you guys grow the fuck up?

Obama is going to win it seems.Will you HRC worshippers quit trying to start shit?

GOD DAMN!!!..I was an Edwards supporter to start and after he dropped went to Obama..I could have went to HRC...BUT...you guys need to grow the fuck up.

WHY do you feel the need to take the party down with you?

[NastyRiffraff]

30. It seems that ANY criticism of Obama is "taking the party down"

And I'm sick of it. There are MANY legitimate questions about Obama that his supporters refuse to address. When anyone tries to, we're called disloyal, racist, even unpatriotic. It's beginning to sound a lot of "with us or against us," ala BushCo.

[backwoodsbob]

31. oh fuck that

bringing up BO's middle name over and over isnt bringing the party down?

MANY HRC supporters here declaring they wont vote for BO isnt bringing the party down?

[jefferson_dem]

42. "There are MANY legitimate questions about Obama that his supporters refuse to address."

That's exactly the talking point Hannity was working with yesterday. No joke.

I hope we will unite behind Obama once he wins the nomination.

[NastyRiffraff]

43. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

I despise Hannity, but he does have a point. That's true of ANY politician. If you refuse to see there are ANY questions you're going to get a rude wakeup call if Obama wins the nomination. Hillary's "hits" on him will look like love taps.

[bridgit]

33. If BO wins, will his supporters then please grow the fuck up?

And if they will not do it even then...then when will they grow the fuck up: Cornel West on Barack Obama

[dansolo]

34. If BO wins, will the HRC supporters then please grow the fuck up?

[bridgit]

39. If not already, many were *forced* to grow the fuck up watching the RW smear machine...

lambaste both Clinton' over idiot shit like Whitewater, their alleged hand in the fallen Vince Foster, and everything in between...

BO's like a brand new Cracker Jack Toy fell right out of the box all shiny & new, weeee! :bounce:

[Darth_Kitten]

36. It also isn't about voting for a candidate because all your friends consider him super duper cool...

just a warning to "some" out there.

[jackson_dem]

38. The audacity of hypocrisy

[thevoiceofreason]

45. He is a remarkable person

I am proud to support him.

Maybe I should form the "Cynical trial lawyers" for Obama.