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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:37 AM Original message |
For those who insist that gender discrimination has NOT been a FACTOR |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure there is discrimination |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I never said it made her a better candidate, did I? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. misogyny and sexism aren't equivalent terms. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
39. No, they aren't. But they are related terms, and they have both |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. I disagree that they are related terms. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's been that way for years. Now, because a woman is running, she |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yes, it will be historic either way. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Well, I disagree. Please read me on this: I am a white woman, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I think the election of either one of them will send a very positive message. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Bi-candidate! Love it! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Why isn't it possible to be affected by and to like both of them? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think those numbers explain it |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
51. "negativity" |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Of course it is a factor, so many women support Hillary simply because she is a woman. not fair |
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Danzo (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. Very True |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. Just curious: How many women run for Senate? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. OK, THAT is ridiculous |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Umm...no, it's not ridiculous at all. It' math. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. oh gawd |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. settle down. common had a legit point. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. People are encouraged to run -- or not encouraged -- by party insiders. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Women are a majority. "Men" don't elect anybody |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. And maybe the party king-makers don't want to be queen-makers. n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 06:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
49. You know what's funny? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. That wouldn't prove much of anything, because the question would then be |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Do you think there should be a 50/50% quota? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
41. No. And not a quota at all. But, given the percent of women in the |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. he thinks it's simple mathematics |
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BalancedGoat (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Statistical advantage for women? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Interesting, and not unexpected. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. How is it that the majority of the population are women and yet they are under represented? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Are you asking that rhetorically? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. oh boy!! |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. 16 women, how many African Americans? Not a level playing field at all, I agree with that. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
12. I will get flamed for this but... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Please go away |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. uh, no its just true. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I think it is harder for women to succeed because of the demands both biology and society places on |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. thats not sexist, its true |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
47. So--you have not answered WHY it is the best men get to the top over the |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. So how did gender discrimination cause Hillary to run such a shitty campaign? |
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countmyvote4real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't vote for a vagina or a penis. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
59. So don't discount 52% of the population |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
24. It's tough for women in politics...no doubt. |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. My state is ahead of its time... 2 female senators, 1 female governor |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. It's not just your state. |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
29. There have been FIVE black senators in this nation's hitory, there's only ONE now. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
31. I don't believe it has not been a factor |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
33. this topic is completely pointless, and should be done already |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. No one is claiming that racial discrimination doesn't exist. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
35. Sexism |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
40. THe answer here is clear, more women run for office make the differeence... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. Please explain how thisa is evidence of gender discrination in the primary racr. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Start by looking at the evidence on this board alone please. |
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DDQ (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
50. I am beginning to read "Women for President-Media Bias in Eight Campaigns" |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. People are forgetting the history of smears against female candidates |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
54. Nice revisionism here |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
56. Of course it has... and racism has been a factor, too. (nt) |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
57. And Obama's race has been an issue for him..... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
58. and 52% of Dem voters are women |
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