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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:18 AM
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How much of the 'Gen-Y' (or Z?) twenty-something slacker vote that doesn't show up in the polling
has Obama been getting in previous recent contests like Wisconsin? I'm wondering if that factor is masking the polling and could result in more blowout wins in Texas and Ohio.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:20 AM
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1. shhh dont remind them that Obama has underpolled in every state to date
one could read into this that a "dead even" poll could be equated to a 4 point win.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:23 AM
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2. Here in Ohio the Obama people are the young 20 somethings.
I am housing a young woman from Chicago who is helping with the campaign. She has worked several other primaries. The university in our town rarely sees a young person being politically active about anything and those young people are making calls and working their butts off for Obama. Peace, Kim Hussein
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:23 AM
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3. I'm Gen-x and we just started showing up in polls during the last election.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:24 AM
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4. That is no way to speak of this country's young folk
no matter who you support, it is not right.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:26 AM
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5. One thing's for sure - the pollsters are getting a lesson in polling the internet/cell phone world
I'm 38 and know maybe 10 people who still have a landline. We switched to cell phones 10 years ago, and use internet phone accounts for each of our business lines and fax. Hell, my 73 y/o mother cut off her landline around 2002.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:27 AM
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6. Depends on the latest X-Box release....I am kidding!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:28 AM
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7. Please, let this be an URGENT ACTION ITEM TO TEAM OBAMA
If you want to win this one, GET THE 18-25 YEAR OLDS OUT TO VOTE!

If that means organizing shuttles from every dorm, college neighborhood, sorority and frat house across America then SO BE IT.

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:29 AM
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8. what's with "slacker"?
Twenty-somethings are being hit by this shitty economy just as hard as anyone, and most of us know that "slacking" is not a helpful strategy for dealing with economic collapse.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:38 AM
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11. Actually, you're getting hit harder, because tuition is 300-600% more expensive
than when the boomers went through. They seem to forgot little things like that. Carry on.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:06 PM
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13. heh, you don't have to tell me!
But it's an important point.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:30 AM
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9. Well this 20 something slacker
Who works more hours for less money than your generation did when you were my age, has chosen to ignore the debt I've accrued to pay your generation for the right to work like a dog with less vacation time than your generation got when you were my age, so that I could donate and spend evenings on the phone for Obama.

But yes us slackers don't show up in the polls because most of us have cellphones and no landlines. Furthermore polls don't accout for motivation. Obama supporters are more motivated right now to actually get out there and vote I think.

Now please excuse me. This 20 something slacker has to generate some tax dollars to help fix the country that this 20 something slacker didn't fuck up.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:35 AM
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10. gen y doesn't show up in polling
considering that maybe, and this is a wild guess, 15% of people between 18-25 have a landline phone, gen y is simply not counted in polling methods.

it's an example of an aging industry (polling) that just doesn't "get it" in terms of how to reach young voters (much like the clinton campaign).

back in the day, nearly every single household in america had a landline phone. in 2008, using a landline phone to contact "likely voters" automatically skews the poll towards an older demographic that is likely less educated (although that's a guess, considering how gen y has by far the highest % of its population who attended college)\


btw slackers my fucking ass, this generation is the most overworked generation in our planet's history. indulgent, arrogant? perhaps. but slackers? get real.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:04 PM
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12. Too true
The MSM and Hillary supporters don't want to focus on that.

It rolls out better for it to be played out as a nailbiter.

We'll see ... not counting anything before it hatches.
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