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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:04 PM
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Poll question: Here's a question. Who here thinks Democratic Primaries should be winner-take-all???
I'm starting to think they should be.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:05 PM
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1. Nahhhh
I like being in the Democratic Party instead.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:15 PM
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8. Need I remind you that the current occupant of the People's
White House got there via winner-take-all?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:19 PM
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10. He's a Republican
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:25 PM
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12. And a result of the winner-take-all system.
Let the people decide.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:30 PM
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14. That's not letting the people decide.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:35 PM
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16. OK. I'm convinced.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:38 PM
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17. apparently
you don't know the difference between the GOP and the Democratic Party
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM
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23. I was referring to the general election of 2000.
Our winner-take-all electoral college system got us what we have now. It had nothing to do with the GOP. It was the system. If you wish to argue our system vs. theirs, okay. I still prefer ours. But I wasn't talking about their primary selection process. If you want to continue inferring that I'm stupid, that's your right. I'll live.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 PM
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21. And a result of a system where the popular votes is not the final say? (nt)
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:05 PM
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2. Absolutely not.
I think we just need to scrap the SDs.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:06 PM
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3. The whole thing should be compressed into a few weeks, period!
Every state votes in February, on all on the first of March.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:21 PM
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11. Someone made the point that, if that were the case, it would be...
...Clinton v. Guiliani.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:06 PM
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4. I'd rather they just be closed primaries, personally.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:11 PM
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6. You got me on board with that
Republikkans in Republikkan primaries

Democrats in Democratic Primaries

ONLY!!!!!!!!!!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:31 PM
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15. Yeah. Lets give Iowa and New Hampshire a big "fuck you"
You know, those states that are 40% independent?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM
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24. They can either pick a party, or run an Independent... they can vote for whoever they want in the GE
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:49 PM by nonconformist
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:07 PM
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5. Hell no.
I think Romney had 3 million votes, McCain 3.5 million votes, whenr Romney dropped out. The winner take all shit made Romney look way further behind than he actually was.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:12 PM
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7. I'd like to see all states in the GE also give proportional votes.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:17 PM
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9. I would be satisfied just to have all primaries held
within the same week. Indiana's is in May. What's the point?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:27 PM
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13. I think it should be proportional, but not insane like it is now.
Best scenario: Popular vote winner nationwide wins the nomination.

Second best: Each state gets delegates, and they are awarded proportionally according to the popular vote in each state. I.e. if the popular vote is 55-45, then one candidate gets 55% of the delegates and the other gets 45%.

The idea that one delegate in one state represents 15,000 voters and another delegate in another state represents less than 1000 is totally undemocratic.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:39 PM
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18. What would it look like now if it was
If we had winner take all, wonder who would be in front now.

Anyone know?
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:40 PM
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19. Because the big blue states would have more effect on the outcome
Who cares who wins the little red states.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:42 PM
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20. Hell NO! And we should abolish the Texas two-steps and other
non-democratic instruments where not every vote is equal.

Haven't we learned from 2000 when Gore won the popular votes but lost the "delegates?"

This is what we have seen in Nevada and perhaps in other states and this is what we may see in Texas where a black vote is equal twice as a Latino one.

Last, let's keep primaries and caucuses open to registered Democrats only. Let's not let Republicans determine who our nominee is.

And while there - let's abolish the caucuses.

Primaries only, by Democrats only. Democrats determine the nominee.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 PM
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22. Mixed. I'd give 25% or 33% or 50% of a states delegates to the winner, proportion the rest
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Otherwise this will happen every time we have two good candidates
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