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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:12 AM
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People have voted their fears
Appealing to the worst in people, their racist fears, implying Obama is a Muslim, does wonders in states like Texas and Ohio, and other southern states. As Hillary's fear-mongering, dirty campaigning has proven. Sickening.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:14 AM
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1. Sore looser
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:16 AM
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6. Sore tighter...
oh, you meant loser??? Why didn't you say so??? :puke:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:18 AM
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What needs tightening? n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:14 AM
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2. Where is the proof of this? An NPR pundit?
Who knows why people voted the way they voted.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:15 AM
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3. I too am tired of scary Hillary and her negative ads,
And I do not want her anywhere near my children with them.
You will not get my vote thru fear tactics similar to those of Bush.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:19 AM
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12. So Clinton scares you? So you are voting your fears?
:shrug:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:15 AM
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4. What ever
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 01:16 AM by BuffyTheFundieSlayer
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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:20 AM
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16. nice pic
lol
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:16 AM
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5. The exit polls say that Clinton scores better on having specific plans
...for dealing with the problems facing America. She also comes out on top on the ability to deliver on promises. That isn't fear tqalking, that is an appreciation of competency, and toughness.
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:17 AM
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8. Tough as shoe leather...
the woman scares me...and I'm a woman just a couple years younger than she is.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:22 AM
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18. Same age, same gender, and I love her toughness. Why should it scare me? n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:25 AM
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21. Amen.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:33 AM
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32. Clinton would make a fine president
She's smart, tenacious and a democrat. I am still pissed about the IWR vote, but maybe if she's president she'll be able to set the agenda instead of caving to the one set by the right-wing.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:16 AM
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7. I think Ohio voted their hopes...
They are hoping Hillary can return their economy to where it was under Bill Clinton.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:20 AM
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15. That's stupid thinking...
'cause Bill's signing NAFTA in to law is a big reason why Ohio is hurting.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:26 AM
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22. You said it !
Not me. :-)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:18 AM
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9. oh yes, you know why people vote the way they do
you sure weren't saying that last night though were you?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:18 AM
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10. Some see all those sins on Obama, not Clinton.
Just saying. All this name calling and shit will get us nothing but mad at each other. No matter why we voted, or how, or for what reasons, we voted, and that's how decisions have always been made in America. Well, except in 2000, and probably 2004.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:18 AM
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11. Obama is going to have to go dirty...
to stay in this. Otherwise he will be bloodied like the Repukes say they want.

He needs to drag up the fraud lawsuit the Clinton's are currently involved in, her husband's whoring... the whole nine yards.

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/trial_date_to_be_set_in_paul_vs_clinton_on_february_21_2008/
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:22 AM
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17. when he's not testifying for Rezko n/t
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:30 AM
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28. He is NOT on the witness list.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:14 PM
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40. I'd say BareNakedConsevative's post sorta made the OP's point.
Negative disinformation pervades, all part of the Clinton "kitchen sink" negative strategy.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:23 AM
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20. Absolutely

Shrillary is fair game at this point. Obama needs to start fighting back HARD and NOW. Hit her with both barrels and give Shillary a taste of her own medicine. Or else he will end up like John Kerry---swiftboated into oblivion.

John Kerry tried taking the high road in 2004 and look where it got him.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:19 AM
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13. ...............
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:31 AM
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30. Is this an adult discussion board or Romper Room?


You've just proven that Hillary supporters have the mentality of two year olds.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:20 AM
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14. That's why I am so angry right now.
This was just a gut reaction made by the undecideds who usually go for Obama. He needs to take her to task on her so called experience.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:23 AM
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19. Yes, and all Obama supporters are woman-haters.
:eyes:

shut the fuck up.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:26 AM
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23. I ain't afraid of any of your shit.
You can take your accusations and shove them. If that brush got any broader, you wouldn't even be able to lift it. Sounds to me like you are the bigot here.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:26 AM
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24. See, I just am not reading it that way at all.
I'd concede the point, had Hillary been some kind of behind-the-eight-ball underdog going into tonight. She wasn't. She sqaundered a huge lead and eeked it out in the end. Obama surged throughout, and in the end, he didn't catch her.

But I don't think this is some kind of mandate that says "Negative Campaigning WORKS." I just don't believe that, not for a second.

Here in Cincinnati, Ohio, we rejected Hillary's negativity 61% to 38%. In my hometown of Dayton, we rejected Hillary's negativity 54% to 35%. In our state capital of Columbus, they rejected Hillary's negativity 56% to 43%.

I hope we think about all of that going forward. Let her go nuclear. The blowback is apparent in the cities, and the rest will catch up in time.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:28 AM
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25. Let's not be down here, Obama is more prepared for the next stage.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:30 AM
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26. that is true
I've never seen much in Obama but tonight I saw fierce determination - the man was on FIRE during that speech
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:30 AM
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29. I think he does better from an underdog position.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:35 AM
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33. it's how one truly gets tested
Obama HAS been given a free ride - but I thought his reaction to this setback was quite impressive
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sykalla2 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:30 AM
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27. People who voted for Hillary racist? Yeah right. STFU *NT*
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:32 AM
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31. Is limpballs going to celebrate tomorrow?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:43 AM
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34. It has been a sickening night.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 01:44 AM by Zachstar
Even tho it looks like Obama may pick up 1 or 2 net delegates. This night has proven that swiftboating and fear mongering wins. The republicans had all but written off the possibility to use that in this race.

Get ready everyone. Now Obama will have to expose clinton for what she is and go into the GE facing a super powerful republican machine which has just had the restrictor places chopped off by the last few days.

This is going to be one of the sickest campaigns in history. I will never forgive Clinton for what she has done to ethics in this race.

The gloves are off now and I look forward to Obama exposing that scumbag Clinton for what she is.

Clinton started this bullshit and the people love it. May Obama show her the can of worms she has opened when he runs ads exposing her past when his speeches are no longer about being nice and friendly but of the dates and years and the details and how he is DIFFERENT and the lingering effects of Clinton on history today.

The future of the United States and the Supreme Court are too important to let this shit go unchecked. The only way to put out this fire is to control it with fire. If this fire goes unchecked it will burn away any reasonable chance of a win in November.

Don't you worry. Clinton's past once exposed will make her wish she won by debating and being reasonable. WE GAVE YOU THAT CHANCE CLINTON! You decided to use your machine to try to politically eat Obama and you got in a good bite or 2. Yet one does not need a machine to expose what Clinton is.
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Corkey Mineola Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:51 AM
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35. the sky is falling the sky is falling
I'm pretty sure that being the subject of an independent counsel for 8 years has tested Hillary's "past". There probably ain't alot there that we haven't seen.

Additionally, your pessimism does not make sense in light of the fact that the Dem primaries have produced record turnout and energized the party.

Finally, you are calling the former first lady of the US, and the senator from New York a scumbag. I find that offensive.
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Corkey Mineola Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:53 AM
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36. fear and hope are intermingled
not to mention that you list "fears" which really didn't (according to exit polls) motivate voters.
Even Iraq and national security didn't poll highly.
It was the economy.
People have a right to be scared of that.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:41 AM
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37. Look at your map again.
Ohio is not a southern state.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:44 AM
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38. Time to fight this nonsense!
He can't sit around like John Kerry and let himself be swiftboated. If he does, then Hillary Rove Clinton's supporters are right about how he will fare in the general. Fight back!
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:10 AM
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39. Unfortunately..
Unlike Hill, Obama actually has standards. The candidate with standards will usually lose to the person who is willing to lie, cheat, or steal thier way to the presidency.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:14 PM
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41. DLC = Rove
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