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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:22 AM
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Obama is forced into a corner fighting both Hillary and McCain!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 10:23 AM by Tellurian
... not to mention forthcoming entanglements and nothing but bad publicity in the Rezko Trial...

With losses in three out of four primaries yesterday, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and his campaign face a scenario that a barrage of advertising, phone calls and door-knocking could not avert -- a protracted, two-front war against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and the presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain.

Even before the polls opened, campaign officials were dreading an outcome that would keep Clinton (D-N.Y.) in the race at least through the Pennsylvania primary on April 22. Those seven weeks will cost Obama at least $10 million, and possibly much more, campaign aides say, as he battles a rejuvenated Clinton who will have every incentive to try to force him into a major mistake.

Obama aides also expect to take concentrated fire from McCain (Ariz.) and his Republican allies, who have already begun raising questions about the 46-year-old Democratic senator's credibility, authenticity and even his patriotism.

For months before his victory in Iowa, doubters questioned whether Obama had the stomach to deliver the blows necessary to wear down Clinton's advantages. Now, the question is whether he can take a punch -- "and you know they will be coming," said former Iowa governor Tom Vilsack (D), a Clinton supporter.

Some Obama supporters are increasing pressure on him to shift tactics, frame more sharply his criticism of his opponents and begin inoculating himself from the GOP attacks, but Obama remains reluctant to change the approaches that he still thinks will secure him the nomination. "I have said consistently that we do things differently," Obama said. "It's worked for us so far. And I'm not going to do things that I'm not comfortable in doing."

To be sure, Obama campaign aides think the defeats yesterday in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas will not alter his path to the Democratic nomination. Under the Democratic Party's system of distributing delegates proportionately, Obama will maintain a lead in pledged delegates, and any diminishment of that delegate lead is likely to be recouped in Saturday's Wyoming caucuses and next Tuesday's Mississippi primary.

...Obama's only thought below which is irrelvant in the grand scheme of things is an indication of how out of touch he is with reality. This is the theme that will be pounded on regularly by Republicans..

"No matter what happens tonight, we have nearly the same delegate lead we had this morning," Obama said last night in San Antonio, "and we are on our way to winning this nomination."

...

But Democratic leaders outside the campaign are worried that a candidate who cruised through his only Senate campaign, in 2004, does not know what is about to hit him. Republicans are already planting the seeds for a negative campaign designed to make one overarching point, said Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.), an Obama supporter and informal adviser: "This man is not who you think he is."

"You have to question whether he is equipped to deal with the complex and serious issues that are facing the nation," said Danny Diaz, the Republican National Committee's communications director.

Republicans such as Rep. Jack Kingston (Ga.) have used Obama's decision not to wear an American flag on his lapel to question his patriotism. Virtually every day, the Republican Jewish Coalition sends e-mails to Jewish voters questioning Obama's commitment to Israel. And darker e-mail and Internet campaigns continue to falsely suggest that Obama is everything from a Muslim to a terrorist sympathizer.

McCain has already made clear how he will try to brand Obama if they are opponents in November, drawing on the Illinois Democrat's Senate votes on abortion, taxes and guns as evidence that he is out of the mainstream.

Several additional pages available for reading as Obama's campaign falters.


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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:23 AM
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1. Go back to your echo chamber
and stay there! You'll be needed there when Hillary concedes today.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:31 AM
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47. Did Hillary concede?
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:24 AM
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2. Oooh, two "experienced" candidates against one
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:27 AM
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3. Saw your siggy...
Everything you just typed has fallen on deaf ears, for including that racist, dem-eat-dem shit site in your siggy.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:34 AM
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10. Yes, I know. You and your ilk and your candidate suffer from the same malady..
If it's an unpleasantry detailing what is "IS"... You don't want to hear it.

My thoughts on this article. This is a pretty unbiased narrative outlining the battle to come. However, if the heat is getting too unbearable for Obama and his supporters... the kitchen door is wide open.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:28 AM
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4. "Republican Jewish Coalition questions Obama's commitment to Israel"?
Whatever next?

"Republicans for John McCain"? :eyes:
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:28 AM
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5. Obama needs to go on OFFENSE. He can't be naive.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:02 AM
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25. But he is... and it shows. His inexperience in impromptu settings
Obama was shocked almost speechless over his defeat. And it's just not sensible for him to think his campaign will go from state to state picking up delegates here and there to reach the necessary threshold for the nomination.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:30 AM
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6. things are tough all over. nt
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:32 AM
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7. "Obama is forced into a corner fighting both Hillary and McCain!"
OP is positively gleefull that HRC is scorching the earth for a GOP victory in Nov...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:36 AM
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12. One battle at a time... Hillary is gleefully unapologetic for scorching your candidate last night...
and so am I...
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:40 AM
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14. And still blind on the fact that hillary CANT WIN AT ALL
She hasn't made a dent on the delegate lead.

She's going to be gone very soon. So you can go back to your racist and xenophobic echo chamber and cry some more, Tellurian.

Hawkeye-X
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:04 AM
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26. Hillary has won all the Big States. She stopped Obama dead in his tracks
Hillary is going the Super delegate route.. so no worries there.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:45 PM
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36. Have you not noticed that Hillary's SD lead has dropped to less than 40 now?
and Obama just happens to have 50 ready to roll out...

I will really enjoy watching you squirm the day Hillary finally cashes out. I hope that lame website of yours stays open kind of like a Museum of Douchebags.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:06 PM
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40. That can all change at the blink of an eye..
The Superdelegates are at large until the convention. Even if what you say is true!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:17 PM
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42. This is what you are basing all your hopes on?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 03:18 PM by JackORoses
That Superdelegates will switch back to Clinton...

or maybe you think pledged delegates will switch, too.

Heck, might as well throw in MI and FL.

Don't you see that you are basing your whole premise of victory on a highly unlikely scenario?

You have to at least admit that Hillary's chances aren't very good.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:28 PM
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43. Not at all.. As Obama grows weaker, Hillary grows stronger..
As Obama is mired down in the Rezko debacle, Hillary will advance sharply leaving Obama in the dust as a forgone memory. Obama has already proven to his donors he cannot beat Hillary. If he would have had a Grand Slam last night and won all the Primary states by wide margins over Hillary, I might have agreed with you. Obama destroyed his chances for the nomination last night. He will never be any stronger than he was last month with the Kennedy/Kerry endorsements and all the support of Big Media. He's through. He's proven he isn't a closer or able to destroy his competition. Done and done!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:32 AM
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8. as a hilary supporter you are no better than the one that every day send out bullshit
and lie and promote fear to win.

keep it coming, disgust people more.... there will be no support IF hillary makes it to nov. because you/her/her suporters are no better.

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:39 AM
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13. Actually, voters are looking for the "strongest" Dem candidate for the GE..
Obama is NOT that candidate. Obama believes he IS... Hillary just set him straight on that delusion last night.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:43 AM
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17. Yeah, with her negative campaign AND her mccain moment before the primaries..
And it will doom her -- plus she's going to be hit with fresh scandals from bloggers (to be specific, AmericaBlog will be leading the charge) and the fact she HAS NOT revealed her tax returns echoes large for Hillary - she CANNOT win under any circumstance, no matter how she tries. Her idea of "bullying" the SD is already dead - many of the SD's have now pledged to follow the will of the pledged delegates.

Hawkeye-X
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:50 AM
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22. Rezko is looming large over Obama. What IF... Obama ends up indicted as a co-conspirator?
Hillary's Tax-Returns?

Of course, you jest! :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:44 AM
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18. there is a difference between corrupt and strong. unfortunately,
hillary supporters are now justifying for themselves the same the republicans did for years, voting for bush, knowing the damage he was doing.

clinton/rove/bush.... a party of one.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:40 AM
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30. The Bush-Clinton-Bush machine rears up. Time for Open Government to KNOCK EM DOWN.
.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:45 AM
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32. how many hrc supporters are on this thread decrying this trash another hrc is promoting.
look at the obama threads where we are saying here is the garbage to trash hrc. and what is there, the thread is full of obama supporters saying, no, it is wrong. that isnt the way. not needed. no.

not on an hrc thread trashing obama

so is looking like repug/rove vs democrats.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:32 AM
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9. And Hillary isn't forced into a corner fighting Obama and McCain?
:shrug:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:42 AM
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16. Obama has established himself as the front runner to Repukes..
and that is their first order of business as tactical strategists, take down the "front runner"!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:35 AM
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11. It's telling that Hillary and McCain are on the same side
That pretty much say is all.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:45 AM
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19. wrongheaded thinking is rampant w/Obama supporters..
read post #16.. and you'll understand basic strategy in political battles.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:51 AM
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24. I know that if one side has no morals or ethics
It has a natural advantage over a side that does. bush/rove demonstrated that to be true and now the Clintons. So I am afraid I know far more than you, on this particular issue.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:13 AM
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27. How moral/ethical was it for the Obama Camp contacting the Canadian Government ?
NAFTA? This serious misstep is going to haunt him throughout his campaign.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:18 AM
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28. What we know is that the Clinton camp made it a big deal
What we has seen in reality is that it wasn't real story or issue. Classic Karl Rove
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:42 AM
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31. Karl Rove is busy with McCain ...
and the use of his name as an excuse for Obama's attacks on Hillary are the hallmark of campaign newbies.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:38 AM
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29. Its sad that feminists have teamed up with racists
to take out Obama.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:42 AM
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15. And you are proud of standing shoulder to shoulder
with the republicans?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:48 AM
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21. Isn't it Obama that isabout choosing Republicans for Cabinet positions?
Isn't it Obama that thinks Reagan is the best model for president of Modern Times?
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:38 PM
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33. effective disingenuity
;-)
but hardly answering the question.

Which, was are you proud to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the republicans?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:56 PM
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37. Not really, Obama's comingling republicanism been newsworthy for days if not weeks now..
but you cannot answer a specific question yet you expect an answer to a general non specific question.

dream on.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:50 PM
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46. I asked first
thus, I should be answered first. I don't know how you have construed Barack Obama's words on Ronald Regan and (before you go wasting time, effort, emotion and bandwidth) I don't care either.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:46 AM
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20. Tag teamed by fellow republicans
The only difference between Clinton and McCain is that McCain is likable. McCain will get my vote if she is the nominee.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:45 PM
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44. so then I guess you aren't a Democrat
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:51 AM
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23. Hillary's grand plan:
she knows she can't defeat McCain in the GE. Her negatives are higher than any political candidate EVER have been. And if Obama becomes the nominee, he's damaged goods going into 2012. So she's assured a front-runner spot for 2012. She doesn't give a shit for this country, for this party, it's all about her.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:39 PM
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34. So you admit that Hillary and McCain are in league together?
Wow...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:58 PM
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38. First you must prove they are in league before you make the statement..
otherwise- don't state it!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:39 PM
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35. Bug off before I get a can of RAID.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:59 PM
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39. You candidate's nomination chances have been raided...
too late!
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:10 PM
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41. Obama
has already proven he cannot take the "punches". Instead of creating some kind of "damage control"; he's actually insisting that the American people take him at his "word".:crazy: Ain't gonna happen. They guy has not been vetted; and this is only the beginning. His "secrets" will come out at the end of the day, and everyone will see this guy isn't all about "unity, hope, change"; if Obama can't take it, could be the time for him just to get out of the race.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:53 PM
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45. All of it predicted, right here on DU!
Barack may be right with his approach, though. We will see.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:31 AM
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48. K&R!
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