Any Obama supporter bashing Clinton over the Spitzer thing needs to grow the hell up.

[Danger Mouse]

I love Spitzer, was happy to vote for him, and this is heartbreaking for me.
However, his problems have nothing to do with Clinton. NOTHING.
You guys who are engaging in this childish shit are not helping our cause on DU...in fact, you're pissing all over it.
If you insist on acting like a spoiled, bratty child gloating over a new toy, take it elsewhere.
I, for one, would like there to be SOME possibility of mending fences with Clinton supporters once the nomination is settled. Stop making it even more unlikely with this kind of crap.
That is all.

[JVS]

1. Let them feel the wrath of the kitchen sink

Of course, Clinton is innocent in this issue, as far as we know.

[pnwmom]

13. Steve Croft is the one you should be blaming for that interview, not her.

He refused to accept her clear no for an answer. Instead, he repeated the same question not once but twice, until it appeared to me -- an observer -- that he was about to spring something on her. I bet she thought the same thing. So she finally fumbled and said, "as far as I know."

[JVS]

36. Sorry try again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ&feature=related

[pnwmom]

37. That's an edited version. n/t

[JVS]

39. As in clipped from the whole interview? Yeah. Or do you know of a version that is better?

[pnwmom]

40. Whoever clipped that obviously left out the PREVIOUS question, where Croft

asked her about Obama being Muslim, and she said no.

Then Croft got that skeptical look on his face and said, "You don't believe that Obama's a Muslim . . . "

The youtube video also leaves out another significant part of the questioning, which I found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmK3ZjZxk_w

Unlike some of the people who are relying on little edited clips from youtube, I actually watched the whole interview on TV, as it occurred. I'm neither a Hillary nor a Barack supporter, but officially bi-candidate. And I blame Croft for trying to trip her up, not Clinton, for stumbling on the third go-round on the same question.

[pnwmom]

42. Media Matters has an analysis and a transcript here.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200803040012

On the March 3 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, Politico chief political columnist Roger Simon falsely suggested that "the last thing said" on the March 2 edition of CBS' 60 Minutes when asked whether she believed Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim was: "No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know." But that was not the "last thing" she said on the question. Clinton went on to say, "I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors. I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets ... smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time."

SNIP

[Arugula Latte]

18. We'll take her at her word.

Maybe.

[Yes We Did]

34. Well, this Obama supporter knows better.

You all need to stop this shit. You can't blame her for what he did, and remember, he is still a democrat.

All this bullshit accomplishes nothing.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

2. Yep, and I voted for him as well.

I was hoping he'd run for President one day, too.

[Danger Mouse]

7. I know!!! I feel really betrayed...

[Cha]

28. I voted for him and thought how

awesome he was in Albany with his 2004 Inaugeration on New Year's Eve in Albany that I really wanted to go to but didn't make it.

No more pataki.. I really don't understand this.

[Danger Mouse]

29. You think that's bad? He's actually a fixture in our community...a lot of people love him here...

it'll break a lot of hearts...

[Cha]

30. Why does he have to resign then?

All those gops didn't. And what exactly happened?

[Danger Mouse]

32. I never said he needs to resign.

It's just disappointing.

[Cha]

35. I didn't think you did say that..I was

refering to others' speculation that he would. I hope he doesn't.

[tekisui]

3. It disappoints me to see a good Democrat in compromising situation.

No joy here.

[Pirate Smile]

4. I hope people realize that a few people doing it doesn't make it representative

of the larger group.

[Danger Mouse]

6. of course not...and unfortunately the assholes among the hillary supporters

will tie this to all of us.
that's why crap like that pisses me off...it makes things worse all over.

[Kittycat]

5. I think it's bad for all dems, honestly. Our elected officials & surrogates

should be on their best behavior right now, to limit RW nutcases.

[monmouth]

8. Agree. She is not responsible for the actions of Spitzer. Very sad..n/t

[Lerkfish]

10. ...as far as we know....

[Danger Mouse]

11. please. that's not helpful. in the least.

sigh.

[Lerkfish]

17. I was making a point.

I feel that implying there is a connection is as nonsensical as implying Obama is a muslim.

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. I know what you're saying, but.......

yet another one of our political icons taken out because he can't keep his zipper shut. With all these sweeping wiretaps, you'd think our guys would be a lot smarter. I wish him no ill will, but I am thoroughly disappointed, because he now becomes a Republican talking point, and he provided the ammo himself.

Have you taken a look at the endless threads on Rezko in the gdp? Turnabout is fairplay.

[Danger Mouse]

12. The Rezko shit is just that, shit...but there's no reason for us to stoop to that level...

and yes, I am SERIOUSLY disappointed in Spitzer, too, this was stupid on his part. He's ruined his political career, and hurt the state dem party in NY.

[pnwmom]

14. Has Spitzer been accused of financial improprieties similar to those of Rezko?

No one would care about Rezko if his only offense had been to be caught with a call girl.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. sex sells....your convoluted version of this rezko/obama connection

simply doesn't. Prepare for this scandal to eat up news cycles for weeks to come.

[pnwmom]

33. What do you mean by my "convoluted version of this rezko/obama connection"?

[cali]

19. Exactly

That's why Obama supporters should remind gleeful Clintonites of Hsu, Gupta, Giustra, Bill's sale of worthless stock for a fortune, etc, etc.

[Democrats_win]

15. Spitzer did a lot of good for Americans. I'll give him his one scandal.

He went after a lot of wall street crooks. That means everything.

[eilen]

20. I'm an Obama supporter but don't know why or how Spitzer's mess

could in any way be connected to Hillary Clinton. I know he is a superdelegate but aren't all governers? If he is still in office he will still be super delegate. Anyone can vote, even arrogant philandering politicians.

[JohnnyLib2]

21. Well, thank you for a wise OP.

You're right--any of us could end up working from the same DEM office in just a few months. :thumbsup:

[Kahuna]

22. Is that a fact? I still say she should denounce AND reject his support. nt

[Omega3]

23. don't be a smartass, BHO never came out and strongly rejected racist Farrakahn's endorsment, even

McCain came out after that radio personality said all those things and apologized and even took responsibility for it. We never say the same with BHO.

[JVS]

31. Yes. I remember that part of the debate well. Hillary insisted he denounce and reject...

and he said "No Hillary, Fuck You." Then he started smacking her in the face with his cock.


You can find the clip on youtube, I'm sure.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. You know why they're doing it.

They're idiots.

[olkaz]

25. Look, you either embrace the kitchen sink strategy or you don't.

oh well.

[Danger Mouse]

26. i don't know about other people, but i certainly don't embrace that strategy.

[ShadowLiberal]

27. I'm an Obama supporter, and I must agree with you

Bashing someone because of some dark past or something 'dark' and wrong with some of their supporters is just trying to unfairly associate something bad about someone with another person, even if the candidate they're linking it to doesn't share that in common with them.

By that I mean Obama may have some supporters who cheat on their spouse by hiring prostitutes just like governor Spitzer did, but that doesn't make Obama a guy who cheats on his wife and hires prostitutes behind people's backs.

[TexasLady]

38. You are right.

The yawn factor on the 'spitzer equals clinton' deal,is +25.

My cousin's husband is a reformed drug dealer, I must be doing meth. :eyes:

Though I am sure lots of folks that voted for him are bummed out.

[quantass]

41. Spitzer and Clinton '08 ticket!

[GalleryGod]

43. Eh, Not that Bad,EH. We figured out in 2004... it's only about 500

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