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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:08 PM
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Very interesting Poll Analysis
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 07:42 PM by bbinacan
Disclaimer: This guy is a conservative but has liberals, middle-of-the-roads, and conservatives that can start threads.

His Composite Poll Analysis nailed the 2004 election. Right now, he has Obama beating McCain in the GE.

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/03/obama-would-win-if-election-were-held.htm

edit for spelling
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:17 PM
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1. Obama leads McCain in other electorial projections
that mirror this result. I see a potential for an Obama blow out with longgggggg coattails. I think he will take 53% to 55% of the popular vote, unless he picks Eliot Spitzer as his VP, although that would lock-up the "john" vote.

mike kohr
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:28 PM
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2. Now that's funny
:rofl:
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:32 PM
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3. His polling is horribly out of date, unfortunately
http://hominidviews.com/?p=1325

Try some more recent data.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:33 PM
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4. yeah I agree, we need more recent and reputable data
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:41 PM
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6. See post # 5
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:41 PM
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7. Yeah, that Obama shill thinks BO is going to win OH
LOL -- enough said. I guess the pretty pictures are all you needed, huh?
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:44 PM
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8. So, you don't think that Obama
can beat McCain in Ohio?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:46 PM
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No, I sure don't
Hell, he couldn't even beat HRC.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:18 PM
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31. Primary results do not equal general election results. God that is a hard
concept to understand.....
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:46 PM
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10. How is Obama gonna do it if he couldn't even beat Hillary?
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:31 PM
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24. what?
So all the Hillary voters in Ohio are going to go for McCain in the general election? Not likely.

Just because Candidate A beats Candidate B in a primary, does't mean that candidate B will lose to candidate C in a general election. That's a complete non-sequitor.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:18 PM
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18. Dont confuse the Hillbots with facts and figures
they dont like it.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:35 PM
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5. He'll catch up
Like I said, he absolutely nailed the 2004 race.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:48 PM
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12. LOL - he "nailed" it the day of the election
He had Kerry winning for most of the race in 2004.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:00 PM
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13. ?
What are you getting at? I saw the results the night of the election. I was there when it happened.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:16 PM
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15. The person you are touting as so brilliant
... had Kerry winning up until the day of the election in his projections, which were conveniently adjusted later. I remember him well.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:25 PM
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22. I happen to know him
a helluva a lot better than you dumbass. He happens to be my brother. We spent time talking over many a beer about how to conduct the composite poll. I know very little about Excel, so I was mostly a sounding board. He did the rest on his own. He DID NOT adjust numbers. I was fucking there! Now I'm awaiting your apology.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:48 PM
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28. Then you have no excuse for lying
He predicted Kerry would win for months and months. And you know it.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:01 PM
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29. And guess what,
Kerry lost just as he called it. Do me a favor, follow his analysis this year.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:10 PM
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30. The evidence is right on the site if you can read a graph
He predicted Kerry all along. You know, so give it a rest.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:19 PM
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32. He did and
it broke to Bush. So you give it a fucking rest.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:18 PM
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34. Here is some helpful reading
Graph http://www.federalreview.com:80/images/evgraph.jpg
More info http://www.federalreview.com/compositepoll.htm
Final Call http://www.federalreview.com/fedrevdata.htm

I was wrong and so are you. He DID NOT predict Kerry all along. What say you now?
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:46 PM
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9. Feb 18th is recent data?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:47 PM
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11. The doofus thinks Obama is going to win ND
Sorry, that's just moronic.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:08 PM
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14. I think he uses
historical data to help his poll allow for trends.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:16 PM
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16. LOL -- yeah, like he did in 2004?
LMAO.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:19 PM
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19. do you like crapping on every single thread? is it a hobby of yours? just wondering
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:22 PM
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21. Reality has a liberal bias
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:27 PM
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23. Not in this case.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:37 PM
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25. You don't even know the expert you cite predicted Kerry
would win in 2004 up until the day of the election. So yes, in this case.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:43 PM
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26. See Reply # 22
and get back to me.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:18 PM
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17. but your poll says...
Monday, February 18, 2008 at 11:49 pm

isn't this March or did I skip ahead?:shrug:
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djholman Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:59 PM
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33. The polling is not out of date....
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 01:02 PM by djholman
You were looking at an old post. I typically update these analyses on the same day new state head-to-head polls come out.

The most recent analysis for Obama--McCain is always posted here: http://hominidviews.com/?page_id=1251

The most recent analysis for Clinton--McCain is always posted here: http://hominidviews.com/?page_id=1160

Also, there is a discussion of the recent 50-state SurveyUSA polls here: http://hominidviews.com/?p=1370
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:21 PM
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20. Thanks, that is interesting indeed, I saw one where he 280 electoral...
it was on another thread here, so close enough
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:45 PM
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27. You're very welcome. n/t
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