Doh! What Malloy's talking about....Repubs voting in Ohio...

[skooooo]

Malloy hits it home about the THOUSANDS of republicans that crossed over and voted for Hillary in the primary.

This is now documented in one of the top newspapers (Plain Dealer??)

Now there are investigations going on because switching over for one election, and frauduantly filling out a voter registration card is a federal offense.

Anyone else listening??

So if Hillary argues that somehow Ohio "COUNTS" more than other states, Obama can say that this primary vote was tainted. and it is well documented to be tainted.

[NightWatcher]

1. too bad they couldnt go after rush for solicitation of a felony

he did advocate that people do it.....

just putting it out there

[Doctor_J]

14. You think this DOJ will prosecute Limpballs?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Yes We Did]

16. Same thing happened in Texas.

[yellowdogintexas]

27. well, in Texas you can vote in either primary you choose , your party affiliation

does not have to match the election you choose to vote in. It's an open primary.

so I am certain we had crossovers this year, but we for damn sure had more actual Democrats showing up at the polls than we have had in years.

[ThatBozGuy]

36. This is also why the disparity in the caucus totals vesus the primary.....

in Texas. There is no way many of these republican spoiler voters could attend a caucus and repeat the vote, face to face, and lie with conviction.

The anonymity of the voting booth is easy, but to lie to someones face, I just don't believe they would have made that effort.

[LisaL]

2. I haven't heard any complains from obamobots when

republicans are voting for Obama.

[skooooo]

4. welcome to my ignore list

[LisaL]

13. I don't know how I will be able to go on.

:eyes:

[Snarkoleptic]

8. Of course, Limpballs isn't encouraging voters to cross over for Obama!

The nauseating evidence....
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022608/content/01125110.guest.html

[Abacus]

10. I've no qualms about disillusioned independents and repubs

voting for whomever they feel is the best candidate, whether that be Clinton or Obama (and I believe Clinton has carried these voters a few times herself). However, deliberately trying to taint the process by voting for whomever is thought to be the worst candidate should not be acceptable.

[roseBudd]

11. "I voted for Hillary before I vote against her," Kuhl said.

[Bluestar]

15. Exactly and that has happened in state after state

I think the Obama supporters said that it pointed to his broad appeal or something like that. To me it's all the same--Republicans are deciding our primary contests.

[okoboji]

22. but ... it's the will of the people

I wish I could find the stats out there showing what the actual vote is for Obama vs. Clinton, without the republican crossover vote.

Will of the democrats my ass.

[Yes We Did]

18. That's because they actually wanted to vote for him.

The repuke radio jocks just stared this bullshit for Ohio and Texas.

Seeing as how McCain has is sewn up on that side, expect to see more of the same.

[LisaL]

21. Oh right.

When republicans vote for Obama, it's because they actually want to vote for him.
Couldn't possibly be that they will vote for McCain in GE.

[Yes We Did]

25. I can't wait for her to get knocked out of this. Just to have ignorant people like you shut up.

welcome to my ignore list.

[OhioBlue]

31. I got a phone call a couple of weeks ago

from a volunteer for the Obama campaign. He said he got my name and number from the campaign and was trying to line up volunteers to phone bank. i told him I was actually volunteering in the neighboring County. We talked a little more and I asked him if he was involved in the local party. he said "no, you're going to hate me, but I'm a Republican." I said, "Why would I hate you?" He said "I've just been so disappointed these past 8 years. I was actually a Democrat way back, but switched over and Senator Obama is something really special and I want to volunteer for him".

I know other Republicans and Independents that are just like him.

So you see, yes, Senator Obama is winning back some of the Democrats that we lost, converting some Republicans and Independents and inspiring a new generation of voters.

[okoboji]

20. AMEN to that!!

It's ok for Repugs to vote for Obama, but not the other way around.

[Yes We Did]

26. Funny, I don't remember saying that. Oh, that's right, cuz I didn't.

[ThatBozGuy]

30. Because fo the most part it is people converting party affiliation in Mr Obamas case......

In mixed precincts where republican independent and democrat leanings and voting are all over the place resulting in purple precincts and resulted in crossover percentages less than plurality in the 20% range.

But where Ms Clinton received her Republican votes were in many die hard, rock solid bastions of conservative voting block precincts and in overwhelmingly statistically anomalous amounts, such as clermont county Ohio, where no democrat has been elected for anything for 22 years, there were 12 000 ish democratic votes in the primary, but there were nearly 22 000 republican voters who voted in the democratic primary and of those 78% broke for Ms Clinton in a county that is the most republican of republican.

Thats an anomaly where republicans voting in this county represent a 127% conversion to vote for Ms Clinton over ALL Democrats voting combined including the 20% conversion for Mr Obama.

Thats way outside of statistically possibility, but now look at the obvious impact. Lets for just the sake of being fair say Ms Clinton converted half of those republican voters overnight, which would still be way off statistically but for the sake of argument, there hers. The remainder would be about 11 000 crossover false votes from the Limbaugh effect in just that one county. Now couple that with the act there are at least 5 to 6 such easily identifiable counties with the same outlying pattern and contrast that with the fact that Ms Clinton only "won" Ohio's popular vote by roughly 100 000 votes and this one county represents more than 10% of that when we are very conservative giving her %50 and that if we were to give what appears to be full weight would account for nearly %20 of her lead.

With all that taken into consideration it is clear to see that if this is fraud it is serious enough tampering to be prosecuted, and if the numbers are clear then Ms Clinton actually failed rather largely in Ohio.

[stop the bleeding]

3. Oh My Goodness! Say it aint so.

:beer:

[CitizenLeft]

5. and that's just blue Cuyahoga County.

Imagine the rest of the state, where Republicans outnumber Democrats.

That explains a lot, that and the large number of Reagan Democrats in Ohio. We'll never know what the real spread would have been had they not done Limbaugh's bidding.

[skooooo]

6. I hope the party "elders" are watching.

[K Gardner]

7. I thought I heard on CNN that 8% of her vote was republican crossover..

I've looked for documentation on this and can't find anything, so maybe I misheard. I'm not sure how they'd find out something like that anyway.. ??

[Yes We Did]

19. Nail Meet Hammer n/t

[roseBudd]

9. Cincinnati Enquirer reports the same

[ThatBozGuy]

12. Fifth degree felony and they have prosecuted before.....

Ohio is still for many purposes a common law state in how they deal with contracts and liens. Changing your party in Ohio requires that you to sign a binding CONTRACT that you will and do support all of the parties platform and ideals, not just a single issue. This is similar to pledges in other states but it is a binding contract under Ohio law and falsifying it carrries the same weight and penalty class as crack cocaine, carrying a concealed weapon and so on. That is why Rush Limbaugh only mentioned Ohio on one day. He continued to name Texas specifically from there on out and he continued to intimate that it should be done in Texas, but only allowed people to assume Ohio after that because it was suborning a felony.

[Berry Cool]

40. It's not much of a "required" or "binding" contract

when in most cases, the poll workers just handed these people Democratic ballots without asking them to sign anything.

[walldude]

17. Malloy.. is he another "corpse"?

:rofl:

[Medusa]

23. You know, I couldn't undestand the huge gap in the polls and the primary results

now I do. Makes perfect sense.

[ThatBozGuy]

34. Yes there was no way those casting false votes for Ms Clinton would admit it for the most part .....

Although I have seen several quotes from republicans in several articles that admitted they were voting for Ms Clinton for just such a purpose.

[TheDeathadder]

24. Oh God

She won He lost When Obama wins I say "man it's sucks but no excuses Obama won. Congrats"

Clinton wins "the primary was stolen!! Anyone else listening??"

Everytime Obama wins I could find sites and links to stories saying something shadey happened with Obama, but I don't. Why? Because Obama won. I can't believe you guys shit on anyone who want FL and Michigan to be seated, but then turn around and shit on states that voted fairly within the DNC rules but went with Clinton.

She won Ohio.

[skooooo]

29. Should we just ignore possible felonies?

Is that what you're saying?

[TheDeathadder]

32. he lost

she won

look into Ohio all you want, I was trying to help you out. Please continue to talk non-stop about how Ohio was stolen from Obama. As a matter of fact talk to everyone you know and don't know all day and night about until they scream at you to stop talking about it and that she won and he lost. Start tonight. email every last person on myspace and DU. Go to the mall and grab everyone by the arm yelling "They stole Ohio from Obama"

[skooooo]

33. Too bad Hillary makes this all necessary.

She ought to just drop out.

[LisaL]

37. They've done the same with NH.

It's pathetic. Nader even had to recount it.
It's like Obama couldn't possibly lose.

[skooooo]

28. UPDATE 16,000 Repubs switched according to Plain Dealer...

according to Malloy.

He's going through the counties and looking at numbers. Some Repubs. wrote notes on their registration saying things like "for one day only," or "i don't believe in abortion."

Punishable by 1 year in jail. Article said it was unlikely (according to a professor) that the switches made any difference...

[CitizenLeft]

38. agree, she still would've won the primary...

...but we don't know what the true difference would've been. It might have won her a delegate or two in some districts, though. We'll never know.

[EFerrari]

39. Professor is wrong. Check out this thread, skooooo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=498484&mesg_id=498484

[JimGinPA]

35. K&R

[johnnydrama]

41. exit polls in Texas

Very conservative Clinton 58 Obama 42.

It's not Republicans you should look at, some Republicans can be more left than some Democrats.

It's the conservatives that tell the tale.