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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:41 PM
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The Clinton Tax Returns: What's the Holdup?

The Clinton Tax Returns: What's the Holdup?

Pressure Is High for Clinton to Release Her Tax Returns Since She Loaned Her Campaign $5 Million
By AVNI PATEL
March 10, 2008

After weeks of intense pressure, and more than a year after announcing her presidential candidacy, Sen. Hillary Clinton has offered little explanation for why she has delayed releasing the tax returns made public by most other Democratic presidential candidates in recent years.

"What is the holdup?" said Sheila Krumholz of the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit group that tracks the role of money in politics. "She hasn't exactly made it clear as to what process is making it so cumbersome to just release them."

Past Democratic presidential candidates have set a precedent for releasing their tax returns before or during the primary season. Sen. John Kerry released his in December of 2003, and former Vice President Al Gore's were in the public domain while he was in office. Clinton's opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, released his 2006 return last April.

"This is a level of disclosure the American people have come to expect and deserve from those in the White House, or those who aspire to the White House," said Mary Boyle of Common Cause, a government reform advocacy group.

The pressure on Clinton to release her tax returns has been intensifying since it was revealed that she loaned her campaign $5 million in January. Clinton had repeatedly stated that she would release her tax returns upon becoming the Democratic nominee, but her spokesman Howard Wolfson said last week that the campaign now planned to release the returns "in or around April 15." Wolfson did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

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The article mentions Vin Gupta and Ron Burkle, but since 2000, the list has been growing. Bill Clinton's pardons:

Rodham says he has repaid fees for clemency cases

February 24, 2001
Web posted at: 10:37 p.m. EST (0337 GMT)

CORAL GABLES, Florida (CNN) -- Hugh Rodham, brother-in-law of former President Bill Clinton, said Saturday he has repaid all of the $400,000 in fees he received to represent the two convicted felons that Clinton granted clemency to on his last day in office.

Rodham also expressed frustration about reporters' efforts to prompt him into revealing more details about his relationship with Carlos Vignali, whose sentence was commuted, and Glenn Braswell, who received a presidential pardon.

A report in Saturday's New York Post quoted unnamed sources as saying Rodham had only repaid "roughly $300,000" due to "a cash flow problem."

On Thursday, his lawyer said Rodham had returned "most" of the fees to both clemency clients.

On Saturday, Rodham was asked if he had returned the fees. "Absolutely," he told a reporter camped outside his two-story house. "Everything I had."

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Rodham's sister, U.S. Sen. and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, confirmed that Rodham accepted about $400,000 in contingency fees. "I knew nothing about my brother's involvement in these pardons," the New York Democrat said during a Thursday news conference. "I knew nothing about his taking money for his involvement. I had no knowledge of that whatsoever. I'm very disappointed and I'm very disturbed."
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Owner takes Fifth in Senate 'miracles' probe

September 10, 2001 Posted: 7:18 PM EDT (2318 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A businessman pardoned by President Clinton for mail fraud invoked the Fifth Amendment and refused Monday to testify before a Senate committee investigating whether his multi-million-dollar dietary supplement company markets "blatantly false" products to senior citizens.

The company, G.B Data Systems Inc., is owned and operated by Almon Glenn Braswell, who was pardoned in January by Clinton for a 1983 conviction on mail fraud related to a hair-loss product.

Braswell, appearing with his attorney, refused to answer any questions posed by Sen. John Breaux, chairman of the Senate Special Committee on Aging.

Earlier, the former chief executive officer with Braswell's company testified that its products -- which promise miracle cures -- are "laden with lies and deception," and he faulted government regulators for doing little to stop the practice.

Mike O'Neil, the former top financial executive at the California-based company, described for the Senate panel a company that preys on the elderly. He talked about a monthly advertising vehicle -- the Journal of Longevity -- that portrays itself as a medical magazine, but is chock full of articles written by company employees with no medical expertise.

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Probe: $1.8B diverted to Hussein regime

Volcker recommends 'fundamental administrative reform' at U.N.

Thursday, October 27, 2005; Posted: 6:59 p.m. EDT (22:59 GMT)

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein manipulated the United Nations oil-for-food program so that his regime received $1.8 billion in illicit payments, a U.N.-backed independent report said Thursday.

The investigation, led by former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, said kickbacks came from some 66 member states and illicit surcharges came from 40 member states.

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The company decided not to furnish any contrary evidence, the report said, though its vice president and general counsel said in a letter to the commission, which was published in the report, that the conclusions were not supported by the evidence.

The report said Marc Rich & Co. financed 4 million barrels of oil under a 9.5-million-barrel contract awarded to the European Oil and Trading Co., a French-based shell company.

"Surcharges were imposed on the oil," the report said, and "Marc Rich & Co. directed BNP Paris not to disclose its identity to BNP NY in connection with its financing of the U.N. contract."

It added, "According to an individual familiar with the companies, EOTC and Marc Rich & Co. agreed that the premium paid to EOTC would cover a commission and a surcharge. The premium paid by Marc Rich & Co. of 30-40 cents per barrel was sufficiently high to cover both."

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Volcker endorsed Obama

In 2001, Bill tried to explain the pardons:

February 18, 2001

My Reasons for the Pardons

By WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

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The pardons that have attracted the most criticism have been the pardons of Marc Rich and Pincus Green, who were indicted in 1983 on charges of racketeering and mail and wire fraud, arising out of their oil business.

Ordinarily, I would have denied pardons in this case simply because these men did not return to the United States to face the charges against them. However, I decided to grant the pardons in this unusual case for the following legal and foreign policy reasons: (1) I understood that the other oil companies that had structured transactions like those on which Mr. Rich and Mr. Green were indicted were instead sued civilly by the government; (2) I was informed that, in 1985, in a related case against a trading partner of Mr. Rich and Mr. Green, the Energy Department, which was responsible for enforcing the governing law, found that the manner in which the Rich/Green companies had accounted for these transactions was proper; (3) two highly regarded tax experts, Bernard Wolfman of Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center, reviewed the transactions in question and concluded that the companies "were correct in their U.S. income tax treatment of all the items in question, and (that) there was no unreported federal income or additional tax liability attributable to any of the transactions"; (4) in order to settle the government's case against them, the two men's companies had paid approximately $200 million in fines, penalties and taxes, most of which might not even have been warranted under the Wolfman/Ginsburg analysis that the companies had followed the law and correctly reported their income; (5) the Justice Department in 1989 rejected the use of racketeering statutes in tax cases like this one, a position that The Wall Street Journal editorial page, among others, agreed with at the time; (6) it was my understanding that Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder's position on the pardon application was "neutral, leaning for"; (7) the case for the pardons was reviewed and advocated not only by my former White House counsel Jack Quinn but also by three distinguished Republican attorneys: Leonard Garment, a former Nixon White House official; William Bradford Reynolds, a former high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department; and Lewis Libby, now Vice President Cheney's chief of staff; (8) finally, and importantly, many present and former high-ranking Israeli officials of both major political parties and leaders of Jewish communities in America and Europe urged the pardon of Mr. Rich because of his contributions and services to Israeli charitable causes, to the Mossad's efforts to rescue and evacuate Jews from hostile countries, and to the peace process through sponsorship of education and health programs in Gaza and the West Bank.

While I was troubled by the criminalization of the charges against Mr. Rich and Mr. Green, I also wanted to assure the government's ability to pursue any Energy Department, civil tax or other charges that might be available and warranted. I knew the men's companies had settled their disputes with the government, but I did not know what personal liability the individuals might still have for Energy Department or other violations.

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A year later, he expressed regret:

03/31/2002 - Updated 02:25 PM ET

Clinton regrets Marc Rich pardon

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Clinton says he regrets the last-minute pardon he gave to fugitive financier Marc Rich because it has tarnished his reputation.

Asked if he would do it again, "probably not, just for the politics," he said in an interview with Newsweek magazine. "It was terrible politics. It wasn't worth the damage to my reputation. But that doesn't mean the attacks were true."

A list of 177 pardons and clemencies was released by the Clinton White House just hours before Clinton left office and George W. Bush was sworn in on Jan. 20, 2001.

Since then, they have been investigated by federal prosecutors and Congress. That scrutiny, Clinton said, made him "just angry that after I worked so hard and after all that money had been spent proving that I never did anything wrong for money, that I'd get mugged one more time on the way out the door."

Rich was indicted in 1983 on federal charges accusing him of evading more than $48 million in income taxes and illegally buying oil from Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis. He left the United States before the indictment and now lives in Switzerland.

Rich is the ex-husband of Denise Rich, a financial contributor to the Democratic Party and to Clinton's presidential library.

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Federal investigators in New York are investigating whether any of Clinton's last-minute pardons were offered in exchange for contributions.

Clinton denied all wrongdoing in regard to the Rich pardon. "The fact that his ex-wife ... was for it and had contributed to my library had nothing to do with it," according to the Newsweek interview released Sunday.

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Obama camp: What's Clinton hiding?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:48 PM
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1. K & R
:thumbsup:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:53 PM
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2. I'm not sure what is more disturbing their perchance for secrecy or those indefensible pardons.
Those pardons will all be exploded in full glory - exceeding the scrutiny given them in 2001. The Clintons have argued that they are the only ones who can fight the right wing.

If she gets the nomination, we will likely rethink that. The RW echo chamber of 1992 was nothing compared to the RW echo chamber now or in 2004. Form 1992 - 2000, they had the platform of the Presidency to respond from. In 2004, after hundreds of millions of dollars of ads smearing John Kerry (not to mention the free time given), most people who ever woukld hhave considered Kerry, knew that the SBVT were liars. They knew the Republicans hadn't found any real dirt - so they made things up.

Now, imagine they are against a candidate where there are some shady deals - they will communicate them, but we can't fight back with teh truth.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:23 PM
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3. It's all spin from them.
Their goal is to distort the facts and stall for time, and hope everyone gives them a pass.

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:10 AM
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23. We wont let them get their pass. We will continue to Expose the Clintons for what they really are.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:40 AM
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42. Vigilante Superstar. As you have your lightsabre, they won't try anything as long .



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:34 PM
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4. Clinton Link in Brazil Ethanol Probe

Clinton Link in Brazil Ethanol Probe

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: March 10, 2008

Filed at 10:06 p.m. ET

SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- A team from Brazil's Labor Ministry found ''degrading'' living conditions for 133 sugarcane workers employed by an ethanol company whose investors include former President Clinton and other high-profile financial players.

At five sites inspected, workers ''complained they were suffering from hunger and cold, and all of the locations were overcrowded and with terrible sanitary conditions,'' according to a statement issued Friday by Jaqueline Carrijo, who led the inspections last month.

The target of the probe, Brazil Renewable Energy Co., known as Brenco, apologized over the weekend and said it is fixing the problems at its rural operations, which turn sugarcane into ethanol.

Clinton's connection is via an investment in Brenco by The Yucaipa Cos., a U.S.-based fund in which Clinton was a senior advisor until last year. His investment in Brenco is valued between $15,001 and $50,000, according to a financial dislosure report submitted last year by his wife, presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Yucaipa, whose chairman is prominent Democratic billionaire Ron Burkle, holds an overall 2.8 percent stake in the initial $200 million raised by Brenco last year to start up operations in Brazil's booming ethanol sector.

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:04 PM
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61. she has no morels nt
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:41 PM
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70. What? None of these?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:08 PM
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88. LOL, i was about to ask the same thing!
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:41 PM
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5.  Her Xerox machine is low on toner......n/t
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:43 PM
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7. No, the xerox machine is broken.
n/t
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:42 PM
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6. Pennsylvania hasn't voted yet.
n/t.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:00 PM
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8. Yep. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:44 PM
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17. And that is a good thing.
Who wants a idol, when you can vote for the real thing! Thanks again Mayor Nutter!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:10 PM
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9. i didnt see any taxes released today, she lied in the national debate.
im so shocked she was lying
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:18 PM
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10. Kick.
:kick:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:25 PM
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11. I'm guessing they're waiting for a part for the office copier.
You know, these things can take years to fix.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:26 PM
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12. Aren't you tired of asking this question?
Someone asks it every day...sometimes several times a day.

The minute she reports it...everyone will be all over it like bears after honey. It will be dissected into smithereens looking desperately for some some ammo to use against her. It will be like waving a red flag in front of a bull.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:46 PM
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18. Which is why she should have released them months ago.... would be old news now if nothing damaging.
...or would have disqualified her if something WAS damaging.


Which is how it should be. We should know what we're voting for.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:58 PM
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20. Hey Honey Forget What Happens After She Replies
Let us just get the numbers. You have double and triple straw men out there. Can we see the facts dear? If it is dissected well so be it. Give us the damn numbers Hill. Why are you so paranoid?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:14 AM
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33. Aren't you tired of the Rezco stuff that gets posted here 10x a day?
No? Then you're practicing rank hypocrisy.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:04 AM
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35. The long delay only makes it more certain that it will be a big story when it comes out
which is why it looks like she wants to delay until she has the nomination. (Then the comparison, she hopes, will be with McCain and his skeletons, not Obama and his.)

This question should continue to be asked. There is no logical reason that this was not done months ago - as the first article in the OP shows John Kerry had his tax forms out in December 2003. The question is is she that unprepared and inept or are they hiding something?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:11 PM
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63. She'll have to do it some day
Frankly it looks like she's waiting until after she's nominated, when we'll have to defend whatever is in there.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:28 PM
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13. Clinton's the REAL victim here
"...after I worked so hard and after all that money had been spent proving that I never did anything wrong for money, that I'd get mugged one more time on the way out the door."
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:29 PM
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14. You know...
If you are so hard up, you could always author a piece yourself. Come on! It is just kilobytes in the ether!
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:37 PM
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15. Big K&R.
:kick:
:puke:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:43 PM
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16. Obamites 2008 = Ken Starr republicans 1990s
Guess thats what your reduced to doing when your candidate refuses to articulate any policy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o">Obama refuses to define himself outside of being the 'Anti-Hillary', so his supporters remain clueless.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:48 PM
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19. Hillary asked Rick Lazio to release his tax returns in 2000.... why is she held to a different
standard?


Ken Starr never asked for their tax returns.... red herring by you.


If it is ok for Hillary to ask this question of Rick Lazio in 2000, it is ok for it to be asked of her now.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:12 AM
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21. Digging for dirt, that they know doesnt exist, to attack with..
They know there is nothing in Hillarys tax returns, they just want something to attack and smear with for the next month...

It is Obamas MO because he isn't able to articulate any policy positions, so he runs as the 'Anti-Hillary' instead...

....AKA Ken Starr tactics.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:05 AM
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47. If there is nothing in Hillary's tax returns... she would make them public....
..sorry.... refusal to make them public means she wants to hide something.


What she wants to hide is how their income went from $5 million in 2005 to $35 million in 2006.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 02:40 PM
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75. It was good enough for her opponent, why not for her?
And it turned out Rick Lazio's tax returns didn't have any dirt in them - he wasn't even that wealthy.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:20 AM
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31. STFU AND RELEASE YOUR TAXES.. WHATS THE PROBLEM!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:15 AM
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34. stupid falsehoods
He's articulated all his policies in detail. And Clintonians are rovian liars and bushlike.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:21 AM
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49. Pretty good at regurgitating those talking points, aren't ya?
Someone on Hillary's team compares Obama to Ken Starr, so now all of her supporters go around parroting that line. I guess when you don't like the message, attack the messenger, eh? If you don't have an answer, then go after the person asking the question.

And I guess that it's perfectly okay for Hillary and her team to go after Rezko and look for any sort of shadiness there - but when that scrutiny is applied to Hillary, suddenly it's "Rove" tactics?
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:20 AM
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22. Haven't filed mine yet either. Is Obama running as a stereotypical tax-grabber now?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:59 AM
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29. The issue is last year's filing
2k6...2k5...2k4...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:32 AM
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39. For 2006! No one is talking of the 2007 taxes.
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:12 AM
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24. They are biding their time
While they figure out how to hide all the quid-pro-quo Clinton library for access donations.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:34 AM
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25. Speaking of tax returns Michelle Obama paid $273K per year
to work for the University of Chicago Hospital, and $53K a year to sit on a board that provides most of its products to Walmart? Now tell me, what can a person possibly do for a non-profit hospital to deserve $273K per year in salary?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:46 AM
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27. Geeeeeeeeeee.....
...non-profit does NOT mean that there are NO paid employees.

Unbelievable....:eyes:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:28 AM
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37. Maybe you should look up the premiere hospital in other cities and see what
people doing comparable work make. She is a top Harvard Law School graduate - her high salary is likely not that out of line with her peers. Just from the race this year, look at the fact that in 2008, Edwards was worth approximately $27 million mostly earned during his legal career. Michelle Obama's salary would not likely lead to her amassing that sum of money. In fact, Michelle Obama is close to the age Edwards was when he became a Senator - the Obama's net wealth is a fraction of what Edwards was. Much of the Edwards' fortune came from medical malpractice awards. Hospitals need to attract equally talented lawyers and as it is, you can see which side was the more lucrative.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:00 PM
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52. You're kidding . . . right? She could be making a whole lot more
than that working in a law firm or on Wall Street. It's not like she went to Podunk Community College.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:44 AM
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26. She said she would release them and I am sure she is telling the truth...
...as far as I know.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:57 AM
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28. Ironic. If the roles were reversed Obamites would be screaming Hill was trying to sabotage Obama
:eyes:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:48 AM
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46. So you're ok w her not releasing hers despite making it an issue w Lazio when she ran for the senate
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:14 AM
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48. No. She should release them. I want everything on the table now, not the ge
Let's fully vet the liabilities of both unlike what we did with Kerry in 2004.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:42 AM
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30. It's 3 a. m. and Hillary's not answering. It's ProSense calling AGAIN
Hillary ain't answering that phone for anything.

:D

Thanks for all the work ProSense
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:25 AM
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32. Curious: Couldn't she just EDIT out the uglies from her returns and noone would know when released?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 04:26 AM by quantass
That's what i would do if i was Hillary since she tends to lie, cheat, steal to get what she wants.

I figure she'd file her returns to the IRS and release the "edited" ones to the public...i figure the IRS couldnt say anything since it is private what they have on file?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:31 AM
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38. Edit out, in the time available she could have created completely fictious ones
I assume that though they are private - if they were falsified, it could come out that they were falsified - not the details and that would be damning.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:11 AM
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36. K & R
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:56 AM
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51. Kick
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:30 AM
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40. Doesn't she get until April 15 to file, just like the rest of us?
Jeez.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:04 PM
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53. Her 2006 taxes were due by 10-15-07 if she filed an extension
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 12:05 PM by Debi
That's what Obama is asking for.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:39 AM
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41. Where's the full explanation of where Rezko's donations are? Hmm. BTW, is it 4/15 yet?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:42 AM
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43. Obama's tax returns back to 1997 have been released. Rezko has nothing to do with Obama. 4/15/06? nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:59 AM
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50. They're digging back to his 4th grade report card at this point...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:20 PM
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64. And still peddling the "she has till the 15th" meme.
Unreal.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:45 AM
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44. oops, sorry ProSense I duped you but I did a search and your thread didn't show up.
so I'll just recommend and give it this kick!

:hi:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:46 AM
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45. Thanks mod mom!
:)
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:11 PM
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54. Still waiting for the copier to warm up.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:30 PM
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55. i havent seen any taxes today.
could she have been lying?
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:33 PM
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56. yes, what
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:33 PM
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57. are they
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:33 PM
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58. hiding?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:39 PM
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59. stuff they dont want thier supporters to know about..
or anyone else.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:40 PM
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60. you didn't get the memo..
tax returns don't count
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:46 PM
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66. Yeah, she's stalling for time. n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:04 PM
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62. K&R
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 02:05 PM by OhioChick
:kick:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:41 PM
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65. no morels
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:36 PM
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67. While her campaign surrogates are making racist comments she refuses to denounce, Hillary
still hasn't produced her tax return.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:28 AM
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68. kick
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:39 PM
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69. Obama releases all his earmark requests
He's now released all of his earmark requests for his three years in the Senate.

The move is, among other things, another transparency challenge to Clinton.

link


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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:38 PM
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71. Will she lie about this again in the next debate?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:01 PM
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72. Clinton responds:
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kotsu Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:15 PM
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73. hmmmm
"Sen. Hillary Clinton has offered little explanation for why she has delayed releasing the tax returns made public by most other Democratic presidential candidates in recent years."

So Clinton is the Democratic presidential candidate? Cool!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 02:36 PM
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74. Time for Hillary to release
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:32 PM
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76. no taxes today..
shes still a liar.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:20 PM
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77. a kick for no tax returns
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:21 PM
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78. GUYS, LOOK OVER THERE, WRIGHT IS ACTING UPPITY.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:09 PM
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81. LOL! n/t
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:22 PM
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79. and i still dont know why she lies so much, btw
just sayin
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:27 PM
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80. I'm surprised that Hillary supporters
don't have much to say here. The only two excuses I see are "there's nothing in there" and Michelle Obama made $237K as a hospital Administrator. Gee I wonder how many zeros a Harvard Law degree adds to your yearly...

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:19 PM
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82. Hillary lied on national tv about this.
"I didn't have time to release that info."

She lies just as easily as Bill but not as well.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:20 PM
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83. AND her archives AND her earmarks
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:21 PM
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84. takes practice
she's gettin there
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:53 PM
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85. K&R.
:kick:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 AM
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86. any tax records today?
just checking
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 PM
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87. Hillary campaign:
Clinton’s Mark Penn and Phil Singer hold Saturday afternoon media conference call calling out Obama on Rezko, requesting he release all documentation on transactions.

Both pass up opportunity to criticize him on Rev. Wright issue when repeatedly asked by reporters.

link

This is a good opportunity for Obama demand the tax return, earmarks list and mention the recent Abramoff lobbyist indictment.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:41 PM
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90. Obama Camp’s Response to Clinton Calls for Rezko Documents

Obama Camp’s Response to Clinton Calls for Rezko Documents

The Obama campaign today released the following statement in response to the Clinton campaign’s request for Senator Obama to release documents already available on our campaign website:

“It’s the height of hypocrisy for Senator Clinton to demand the release of documents that are already on our campaign website while she steadfastly refuses to release her full tax returns and earmark requests from her time in the Senate, as well as her White House records and Clinton library donors. Democrats across the country should be very concerned about Senator Clinton’s refusal to offer a full and complete accounting of what could be lurking in this financial information and what that would mean for our party when we run against Senator McCain in November,” said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor.

From the Chicago Tribune: The most remarkable facet of Obama’s 92-minute discussion was that, at the outset, he pledged to answer every question the three dozen Tribune journalists crammed into the room would put to him. And he did. When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him. Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:16 PM
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89. Hillary's hiding from the American people....
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:19 AM
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91. no tax returns today?
just checking
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