Obama is running for President of the World ?

[kentuck]

Whether or not he realizes it? The world is watching America. We are not hated by everyone. Some countries and some people see America as a beacon of hope. If America goes under, the world goes under.

They are pinning their hopes on Barack Obama. At least, many citizens of Third World countries. They wish they could vote for Obama. They, like the majority of Americans, see a tragic decline in American values and principles under George W Bush. They are concerned.

The entire continent of Africa is aware of the presidential race in America. Barack is an inspiration for many in Africa. For humanity reasons, many Muslims in the world are supportive of Barack Obama. Not because he is a Muslim but because his father was a Muslim and they see a glimmer of hope.

Officially, Obama is running for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. Unofficially, he is running for President of the World. America is at a crossroads. We will take the road forward to a better history for ourselves and the world or we will take the road that leads us deeper into the quagmire of destruction and decline.

[rug]

1. I hope Xenu doesn't find out.

[mac2]

2. Or a puppet of those secret world order groups.

[Annces]

3. I wish the election were over already

This just seems like high school, and we want the prom king to win. Okay already.

[DemGa]

4. Damn. Fine time for an empty suit----NT

[global1]

7. You Mean Empty Pant Suit........nt

[DemGa]

8. No, I mean Obama. All fluff - no substance

Additionally, he folds like a cheap suit.

[olkaz]

14. Got any more ad-hominem attacks for Obama?

You're on a roll.

[dchill]

56. But Hillary, on the other hand, is ALL substance...

but no one has identified what that slimy substance actually is. Do you like that?

[anigbrowl]

66. More like fine time for an empty post.

You seem to come out with a lot of one-liners. Well, that's your business...but it's not a very convincing argument.

[BigDDem]

5. Is there any way we could just make him

King of the universe?

:rofl:

[Not the Only One]

6. Every President of the US is a leader of the world.

That's why it's so important that we have the right person holding all that power and representing us. I'm very comfortable having Obama be the face of the US to the world.

[mac2]

28. Live in denial

The world is ruled by World Order government today. He'll be a puppet at best just like Bush.

[mac2]

29. Straight from Obama Heaquarters post?

Can you feel the world power now?

[BlackVelvet04]

9. I'm really confused.....

Geraldine Ferraro says Obama is lucky he's a black man and everyone throws a hissy fit, but you say he's running for president of the world and Africa is inspired BECAUSE HE'S A BLACK MAN. Muslims are happy because his dad was a Muslim but the Obama supporters think it's racist and fear mongering to mention his father was a Muslim.


So, the world is pinning their hopes on Obama because he is black? Why is that? Is he the magic Negro? It certainly isn't because of anything substantive he has done.

Muslims are excited about Obama who rejected the Muslim religion and is a "proud Christian"?

If I made a post stating that the women of the world are hoping for a woman president of the U.S.....that Hillary gives women hope I would be slammed as a sexist.

[kentuck]

10. I think that is a good argument for Hillary.

In my opinion, many peoples around the world are fearful of the direction America has taken recently. They are not pinning their hopes on Obama because he is black or because his father was a Muslim. They are pinning their hopes on Obama because they believe he may be able to change the course we are presently on. That make them feel more secure and more safe. They are able to see a possible future for their own children. We are not that "different" from everyone else around the world. There are a lot of similarities within the different cultures. It's that understanding that gives hope.

[BlackVelvet04]

11. You are contradicting your own OP...

and why would they believe he can change the course?

[kentuck]

15. Same reason they believe George W Bush is a threat to the world.

Anyone would be better but Obama gives them hope.

[BlackVelvet04]

19. No, Bush has demonstrated that he is a threat to the

world by his deeds. Obama hasn't demonstrated he can change anything by his deeds....it's all words.

I saw a post yesterday by an Obama supporter stating how they had been a HUGE supporter of Spitz until this scandal and now they are so angry and disillusioned. That is the danger I see with the Obama supporters. They are putting him on a pedestal and there is only one place for him to go.....down. All of these politicians are just politicians and people. None are endowed with super powers to unite and change anything and those who fall for pretty words without looking for the substance of deeds are doomed to be hugely disappointed.

I for one don't buy that Muslims are encouraged because Obama's father was a Muslim. Obama is, after all, an infidel in their eyes. I'm curious as to why you think his Muslim father is an asset in the Muslim world.....do you have evidence or is it just your opinion?

And if Africans are encouraged because he is Black is it because of his deeds or because he is Black? If people were saying they support Obama because he has done this, and this, and this, then I would have no problem with their support of him but I'm not hearing or seeing that.

I support Hillary IN PART because she is a woman, but she is a woman who fights for the rights of women. Hillary has fought for equal pay for women, for women's health care, for the morning after pill, etc.

What has Obama really done to help Blacks and Muslims?

[kentuck]

22. "Obama hasn't demonstrated he can change anything by his deeds....it's all words."

True.

But that's all that any of them has at the moment. They just believe Obama's words are more inspiring and more weighty. It doesn't matter that he is a black or that his father was a Muslim. They perceive him to be a leader that can change the world. Whether he is up to such a task remains to be seen?

You can make the same argument for Hillary. The people will decide who has the most credibility.

[BlackVelvet04]

23. You really are engaging in doublespeak now....

your OP said it was because he is Black and his father was a Muslim, now you are saying his words are more inspiring. Do YOU know what you really mean because you have completely contradicted your own OP.

Hillary has many deeds to back up her support for women, so the same argument doesn't apply.

I don't have a lot of respect for people who pick a president based on words.

[kentuck]

26. You read what you want to read....

"They, like the majority of Americans, see a tragic decline in American values and principles under George W Bush. They are concerned....

... For humanity reasons, many Muslims in the world are supportive of Barack Obama. Not because he is a Muslim but because his father was a Muslim and they see a glimmer of hope."

[BlackVelvet04]

33. You said BUT BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS A MUSLIM....

now either that is an advantage or it isn't. You are contradicting yourself and blaming it on my reading skills.

[kentuck]

35. Because his father was a Muslim...

they see a glimmer of hope. It doesn't matter if Obama is not a Muslim. Many of these people are hopeless. Endless war and killing and poverty. Many of them would like to see improvements in their lives. Or we can continue the status quo. We can give up idealism and humanity. We can isolate ourselves within our shores. It can be just about us. In my opinion, it is short-sighted and unproductive to have such attitudes. Does everything have to be spelled out in such simple terms? It is a complex world.

[BlackVelvet04]

37. Do you have any evidence of the Muslim hope in Obama or is

it just your opinion because I don't think it makes any sense.

[Andromeda]

84. Go Girl!

:thumbsup:

[mac2]

30. I don't need hope I need a leader who represents our

interests. If I wanted "hope" I would go to my place of worship.

[Critters2]

71. What has he changed thus far that would make them think that?

A history of voting with the majority or missing controversial votes just doesn't seem that inspiring to me. What am I missing?

[XemaSab]

13. Go start a post arguing that

I think it's not a bad argument at all. :shrug:

[BlackVelvet04]

16. He he....

I'm not awake enough to deal with the slamming I would take for that.

My point was that it can't be both ways....either being Black and having a Muslim father is an asset or it isn't.

[XemaSab]

20. I think it can be both ways

If you're talking to a bigot, it's a problem. If you're talking to someone who wants to see some diversity in the office of the presidency, it's a positive.

Same for voting for a woman, no? :shrug:

[BlackVelvet04]

32. No....

it's extremely disingenuous to claim his blackness and his father's muslim background as a positive and then scream when anyone mentions or alludes to either of those things.

[XemaSab]

39. It depends on the context

To draw a parallel, if someone said "Hillary will stick up for women's rights because she's a woman," (which I believe is true), that's different than saying "Hillary will not be taken seriously by Middle Eastern governments because she's a woman." (which I think is a crap argument and totally sexist). :shrug:

I think there's a lot of racism and sexism swimming below the surface here on all sides, and I'm not cool with any of it. I think the "Obamabots" have a happy trigger finger when it comes to racist attacks, and I think that's probably not a bad thing. Ditto for the quick responses to sexist attacks on the part of Hillary's supporters.

Got it? :shrug:

[Alamom]

12. Abner Mikva - Obama mentor

Not everybody liked him; one Senate colleague described him as so ambitious that given the chance, he'd run for "king of the world." - Abner Mikva


Abner Mikva, Chicago lawyer, former congressman, judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Obama Mentor

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/08/AR2007080802038_pf.html

[TheDoorbellRang]

27. Come now. You're better than this

His mentor Abner Mikva did not say this. It was some nameless Senate colleague. From the article:

In all of this he displayed what Mikva, who became another of his mentors, calls his characteristic "knack for getting people to bargain seriously." Not everybody liked him; one Senate colleague described him as so ambitious that given the chance, he'd run for "king of the world."

[dchill]

55. "better than this"

Apparently not. True nature always leaks out.

[Saturday]

17. Who authorized you to speak for the "world"?

and I thought Obama was just running for sainthood. Silly me.

[kentuck]

18. The First Amendment?

You have a right to disagree.

[1776Forever]

21. When you look at Obama's background he is like a mini-world all in one person...

With Irish, African, American Indian ancestors, and growing up in Indonesia, Hawaii, and then moving the Chicago and visiting Kenya, he is really an amazing man. Let alone his teaching of the Constitution and then there is this:

Harvard Experiences Sculpt Obama Appeal

By GLEN JOHNSON
The Associated Press
Friday, January 26, 2007; 2:10 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/26/AR2007012600970.html

(snip)

In 1990, Obama became the first black president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, a position that usually falls to the student with the sharpest elbows. Obama won by convincing liberals and conservatives alike of the strength of his intellect, the soundness of his judgment and the merit of his vision.

"I can't pretend that I had any idea then that he would be a serious presidential candidate _ that would have been a crazy thing for anyone to project at that stage of a career _ but he was certainly the most all-around impressive student I had seen in decades," said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional scholar at Harvard for whom Obama served as a research assistant.

Obama analyzed and integrated Einstein's theory of relativity, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to gravity, for a Law Review article that Tribe wrote titled, "The Curvature of Constitutional Space."

Charles Ogletree _ a professor who has served as a mentor to countless black students at Harvard Law, including Obama _ said, "He was really a moderating influence on the campus by being mature, very much open to a variety of perspectives, but trusted by everyone to reach the right conclusions without some strong ideological link."

Obama, now 45, came to Harvard in 1988 after graduating from Columbia University and spending four years as a community organizer in Chicago. While most of the 550 students admitted each fall are on a trajectory toward high-paying corporate law firms or the judicial bench, Obama aimed for public-interest law from the outset.

"You can try to do things to improve society and still land on your feet," he told an interviewer in 1990. "That's what a Harvard education should buy: enough confidence and security to pursue your dreams and give something back."

...........

What a concept - This outrageously intelligent man who knows the Constitution being our Commander in Chief and replacing the most embarrassing man the Repub's could have picked as our President for the last 8 years.

I cannot wait!!!!!!!

:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[mac2]

31. He is a globalist...

yes he is of the world...another world of no Constitution and elite few who rule from secret world order organzations (PNAC).

You might regret getting what you wish for.

[1776Forever]

44. I know what the other side offers - I will put my money on him any day!

:patriot:

[plantwomyn]

34. An "outrageously intelligent man who knows the Constitution"

but touts seperate but equal civil rights.

[mac2]

48. But doesn't practice it.

Outrageously intelligent? So what. So was Bill Clinton. He's responsible for NAFTA.

[plantwomyn]

77. mac2

did you read the post I was replying to?

[Cogito ergo doleo]

40. Obama is so creative and innovative. It's mindblowing to

imagine such a president after *. It truly is.

Obama does have what it takes to be president, especially at this time. Carl Sagan's "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" could just as well be modified to apply to Obama, in that extraordinary times require extraordinary leaders.

The red phone ad moved the collective mind to defense as the number 1 priority. The importance of defense must never be underestimated, but Obama understands that the dynamics that forged the United States into a world power are an intricate interweaving of an empowered and involved citizenry, made strong by a healthy economy, that children need an extraordinary education to prosper and keep the country strong in the face of the ever-changing economic structure of the world, and that we can't just allow complete destruction of our culture to take place while we wait to see where the U.S. ends up, which evidently the road the repubs are taking.

So while defense is important, the question that seems more apt is who can make this country stronger, and help us establish a new mutual trust with government? Who will be able to envision a whole new set of dynamics in how we interact in the world, and empower us to achieve a new and sound economy that helps everyone to prosper? How can a country be strong with its countrymen divided? A poorly educated, financially strapped, sick, and hungry populace is the face of a broken country, no matter how may bombs, tankers, battleships and guns it has.

Obama is entirely qualified to be our president. He offers hope that we can change the trajectory of our country away from decline and back to strength through the power of the people. That was the idea of the United States in the first place, and we can do it again.

:woohoo:Yes we can:woohoo:

[1776Forever]

42. Great minds think alike! I salute you for your profound remarks!

Right on Right on!
:headbang:

[Cogito ergo doleo]

57. Thank you for posting that remarkable article, and for your

following comment. "What a concept..." It is. :-)

[mac2]

50. Right from Obama headquarters?

Kiss, kiss...I want a job in the Obama administration. It is not "change" from now.

[Cogito ergo doleo]

58. No, what I want is to see our country whole again.

[mac2]

68. Me too but Obama won't do it.

He was in the Senate and all I heard was his "terrorist speech". Barack Obama was and is BO speech...boo. Fear. Neo Cons like to make things laughable to themselves. Sort of an inside joke.

[Critters2]

72. Yeah. He's the freakin' Messiah.

:eyes:

[tabasco]

24. America jumped the shark under Bush.

More people look to Europe as a beacon of hope nowadays.

America is now seen as part of the problem with war, global warming, hate.

[Tindalos]

25. We have our own leader, thank you. eom.

[JBoy]

36. Sorry, America is in decline

And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to
remind them that as a trusted internet personality, I can be helpful
in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar
caves.

[David Zephyr]

38. There's Obama fever in Europe, too.

And don't forget Obama, Japan!

[mac2]

51. The media created hero does not exist world!!

[MyNameGoesHere]

41. Why is he an inspiration for many in Africa? I mean what makes him different

than HRC? So what is it? Come on now you can say it.

[Occam Bandage]

43. Because he's half African.

[MyNameGoesHere]

46. And that matters why? go ahead try to do that without using race

as an explanation, which would get the HRC supporters skewered for even hinting that he was of African descent.

[Occam Bandage]

47. Why would I do that without race? Of course Africans like his African heritage. They like how

he has, despite all the disadvantages that dark skin in a white world carries, risen to the top. They like how he promises to lead for all people (so do the Europeans.) And they've got a bit of "hometown boy done good" cheerleading.

[MyNameGoesHere]

62. Shhhh you are not supposed to mention he is not white.. Shhhhhhh. n/t

[Occam Bandage]

75. Nobody has a problem with mentioning that he is not white. Rather, we have problems with

people using racism for political gain.

[mac2]

63. Not all American black people are connected to Africa or are African.

[stillcool]

45. Yup..as a black man...

he has had to work much harder to get where he is, and having lived in different countries and coming from such a diverse background, I can see how the people of the world who are most affected by U.S. Policy might be hopeful. Maybe they prefer words over bombs?

[MyNameGoesHere]

70. But it is illegal to mention he is African American. n/t

[stillcool]

81. Nothing is illegal...

and there is no low, some will not go.

[mac2]

53. There are dictators in Africa (but they're ours).

The people in war torn Africa are looking for a hero. They will be disappointed in the RW media created hero of Obama. He's a globalist.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

59. He's more likely to commit troops ...

to trouble-spots like Kenya or Sudan.

Which would be ok by me if he gets us out of Iraq and the Balkans. Then go into Africa as part of a UN force, not as an American occupation force.

[mac2]

67. Oh we go to fight in Africa too? How do we pay to be all

over the world. Our security and disasters do without here at home? Do you have your Hummer ready to go?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

78. Pay? Like I said, paint the helmets light blue

and the UN can pay. If member countries don't chip in, don't go.

But I'm guessing Obama would send troops to save Kenya from a civil war.

We're not too smart. We can break things, but have a hard time dealing with the aftermath. Like Iraq. Or Somalia.

My hope is that we'll pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Balkans. Turn it over to the UN and NATO. If they don't want the job, then fuck it, pull out anyway.

[bridgit]

49. That is what Farrakhan said, and, I suppose, that is what he would say. But with...

the world watching as you point out, the larger message actually resides with a HRC presidency. The women of the Islamic world are watching to, and not just waiting for yet another man with the name "Hussein" somewhere in the mix.

A HRC presidency sends a very strong message to, for instance, the burqa wearing world and beyond, that women are able to achieve more than what their cultures have been telling them all along.

[AX10]

52. True.

[CJCRANE]

76. Muslim countries have already had female leaders

including presidents and prime ministers. They don't need a lesson from America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_heads_of_government

[bridgit]

80. Mm hm, sadly, I seen one get shot just the other day

[DemVet]

54. President of the World? I think I'm going to puke. n/t

[mac2]

64. Me too.

He's betrayed the little world of Illinois while he was in the Senate.

[Critters2]

73. He represents Illinois in the Senate?!! I'd completely forgotten.

And, apaprently, so has he.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. He'll make a good one.

[cooolandrew]

61. Basically world tensions decrease dramatically potentially the day when Obama is elected .

The ideal candidate.

[mac2]

65. Dream on.

He's no Martin Luther King. So you'd better try to do it yourself. Get off that couch.

[donheld]

69. He doesn't have to be Martin Luther King

He will be much much better that Bushie. The world is desparately waiting for us to rid our selves of the bushie.

[MagsDem]

74. Why not the whole universe, including all galaxies too?

LMAO... he's not even qualified to be governor of IL let alone "president of the world." This world is in a heap of trouble if he is going to be president of the world.

[annie1]

79. i believe he mentions in a recent speech that his movement will "repair the world"...

i'm gonna have to go with "give me a break" on this...

from his acceptance speech for the primary set before ohio i think

"We know that what began as a whisper has now swelled to a chorus that cannot be ignored, that will not be deterred, that will ring out across this land as a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world." -barack obama

[mac2]

82. He's a globalist....understand that?

He doesn't care about America only world order government (rule by elites). His "movement" isn't a world wide activist type at all.

He would have stated he'd sign the Constitution and Bill of Rights back into law on the first day...like Jefferson did when Adams tried to remove them.

[DrFunkenstein]

83. You Mean to Say President FOR The World

Otherwise, it comes off a little arrogant, when the rest of your post was very nicely put. We need know what you mean, and those that don't are choosing not to for their own reasons.

[Hawkowl]

85. I like that...

President FOR the world. Lately, I watch Obama and I get a sense of his humility. This is new for me, since I'm originally from Chicago and have watched him progress from a state legislator representing Hyde Park. I'm encouraged by his growth.

[kentuck]

86. Yes.

That would be more appropriate. "Words" are important?