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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:49 AM
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Ms Clinton makes first steps to endorse Mr Obama..........
if she were to lose the nomination.

"remember I have a lot of supporters who have voted for me in very large numbers and I would expect them to support Senator Obama if he were the nominee,”

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:53 AM
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1. Oh boy...
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:10 AM
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4. A triple corner.....
:hi:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:14 AM
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5. yep, wait till the
hillbots see this, and then --pass the butter would you? :hi:
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:18 AM
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7. Will do......
:beer:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:49 AM
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28. Hmm, even though your comments are offensive.
I don't see anything offensive about Hillary's classy commentary.

Now if you were to look for Obama making similar statements, you would be surprised.

The man considers the nomination wrapped up. And of course, it probably is.

But arrogance doesn't get anyone anywhere.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:21 AM
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40. There does need to be a retun to civility...
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:39 AM
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44. He made similar comments during one of the debates quite a while ago.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 07:40 AM by femmedem
He didn't explicitly say he would urge his supporters to vote for her. But implicitly he did, because he praised her and made it clear he thought either of them would be better than McCain.

Edit to add I appreciate that Senator Clinton said this. YOu're right, it was classy.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:58 AM
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30. I can NOT stand that term for Hillary supporters.
Is there anything any of us can do to encourage to come up with another term for them that's more mature, more respectful and more representative of your good side?
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:28 AM
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37. I just call them "Hillary supporters" -- I know, not very creative.
Sometimes, "Senator Clinton's supporters" or when feeling ornery, "Hillary folks" or worst " - camp"-- olde school that way.
To me, the names are a distraction and escalate the rancor -how could that help us beat McCain?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:42 PM
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49. Right there with you
I always say Obama supporters --AND I use "Obama camp" when I'm feeling snarky --but that's as bad as I get.

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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:55 AM
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2. It is indeed a step in the right direction.
I was almost to the point of giving up all hope on Senator Clinton. This is a good sign.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:58 AM
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3. Meanwhile Obama threatened his supporters would not vote for Clinton
We now know the opposite is true. 25% of Clinton supporters won't vote for Obama if the election were held today and 10% of Obamites would vote for McCain over Clinton.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:16 AM
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6. Yep, that's pretty much the way it is.
At this point, I wouldn't vote for Obama even if Hillary personally asked me to do so.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:19 AM
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8. So you wouldn't suppot your candidate......
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:46 AM
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47. I will support my candidate until the very end and beyond,
but if she's not also on the ticket I will not vote for Obama. I honestly don't think that he's experienced enough to be president at this point in time. It's not just about Hillary......
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:19 AM
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9. And Hill talks about a unity ticket to unite the party, Obama shoots it down
Obama cares as much about unity as the last guy to run on unity...
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:24 AM
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12. He has been saying that he is not running for VP
And why should he? He is, after all, the frontrunner. He has repeatedly said that it is too soon to talk about vice presidents, but has always said that Hillary would certainly be an appealing option. Hillary talking about unity is essentially offering Obama the VP as a way to overcome his lead, which he is right to reject.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:25 AM
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13. Sure, but why doesn't he return the offer to Hillary instead of attacking her for it?
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:26 AM
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15. like he said...
it's premature to do so
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:28 AM
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17. No audacity for unity from him--except when it comes to "reaching out" to rethugs and bigots...
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:31 AM
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19. Actually hes reaching out to Americans that embrace a difference.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:39 AM
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21. He embraces those who disagree with us but divides those who are Democrats
What "unity"!
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:42 AM
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22. What has he "DONE" to divide democrats?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:44 AM
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23. Dividing straight from GLBT, young from old
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 02:47 AM by jackson_dem
Then there is Obama running arguably the most racist campaign since Reagan in 1980. Who else would have his national co-chair demand superdelegates who happen to have the same color as Obama vote for him based on race and then threaten them with a primary challenge if they vote for the white candidate? If Hillary had done this with white superdelegates her campaign would be over after the msm crucified her.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:46 AM
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24. Actually gay activists did that.......NEXT. What has he done to divide democrats
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 02:46 AM by ThatBozGuy
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:48 AM
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27. Ah, another Obamite interested in "unity" who blames the victims of Obama's Bigot Strategy
:puke:
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:07 AM
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32. Nice try, I am not laying blame. It was a comment of who were involved in the division.
LGBT activists fought that fight amongst themselves, it was people who were already against Mr Obama who said that was a reason to not take him as a candidate and both LGBT supporters and LGBT non supporters of Mr Obama. Mr Obama was in the middle by nature of being the subject.

There was no active division on his part, he wasn't even at the event that the debate was about but you would know that if you were aware of the issues in the debate rather than just repeating a slam point against someone you dislike.

Again I ask the question of your statement, What Democrats has "HE" divided? Not what Democrats have chosen side. What has he ACTIVLEY done to divide Democrats, just name one thing that isnt an opinion.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:34 AM
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38. Wonderful post
I couldn't agree more.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:43 AM
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39. link please
Who else would have his national co-chair demand superdelegates who happen to have the same color as Obama vote for him based on race and then threaten them with a primary challenge if they vote for the white candidate?

Back that shit up with a reference, eh?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:44 AM
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46. Yep, the talk at the water cooler this morning at work
was about Rev. Wright's video. People thought it was inappropriate and just as bad as Gerry Ferraro's comments. Actually, they thought it was worse because of Wright's use of the "N" word in his Hillary diatribe.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:32 PM
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50. You must work in a very unusual place.......
As the videos haven't really saturated yet.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:29 AM
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18. Probably had something to do her saying the Republican candidate was her choice.of sides
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:39 AM
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20. When was this?
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:54 AM
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29. Because it was a cynical ploy on her part
But as much as I dislike the Clintons having experienced the daily psychodrama that was their presidency and witnessing their divisive tactics, I'm starting to see the wisdom in Obama offering the VP at some point. I always thought that to bring her on board would undermind much of the premise of his campaign as she certainly represents the past politics of 51% that I believe he can overturn. However, it may be the only way to bring the party back together.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:17 AM
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35. As a refomer, Mr Obma chosing Ms Clinton would be akin to chosing Mr Cheney.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:21 AM by ThatBozGuy
For the record I am not saying Ms Clinton is bad as Mr Cheney by any means, but Ms Clinton is running on her "experience" in the past administration(s) a vice presidential level position for remainder direction and policies from a previous administration would be vey difficult to justify as changing the process and direction with a new direction.

The Vice presidency is to impacting to carry over past policies to, now if he offered her a cabinet position that would be a different story, and he has made that offer, but a Vice President slot goes against his campaign promises to those who have embraced his campaign
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:21 AM
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10. That's okay, you'll come around
You will be assimilated :pals:
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:47 AM
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26. ditto
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:05 AM
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31. Then you should leave this board
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:10 AM
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33. Why do you hate America?
So, are you voting for the Rethug instead? :wtf:

You'd rather put America through 4 more years of insanity then
vote for a sane Democrat? That's pretty fucked up thinking.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:54 AM
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48. I never said that I would vote for McCain,
but it appears that Obama's camp thinks that they don't need the support of Hillary and the 13M people who voted for her. Therefore, if she's nowhere on the ticket, I'll take my toys home and watch the political parade from my window.

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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:25 AM
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14. link?
Where did he say that?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:21 AM
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11. It's about time.....
:popcorn:
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:28 AM
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16. Whatever. She was playing to her audience.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 02:28 AM by FlyingSquirrel
No way did she intend what you're saying.

And to prove it, tomorrow she'll go on the attack against Obama.

"SHAME ON YOU, SENATOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:13 AM
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34. All candidates "play" to their audience's!
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:14 AM by Breeze54
:crazy:

It's nothing new at all! Both of them are doing it!

Politics has always been a dirty business"

Get used to it.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:46 AM
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25. Obama has never made such statements, and in fact, he's said the exact opposite.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:20 AM
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36. As should be from any candidate on a reform ticket
Ms Clinton is running on her "experience" in the past administration(s) a vice presidential level position for remainder direction and policies from a previous administration would be very difficult to justify as changing the process and direction with a new direction.

The Vice presidency is too impacting to carry over past policies to, now if he offered her a cabinet position that would be a different story and he has made that offer, but a Vice President slot goes against his campaign promises to those who have embraced his campaign
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Frumious B Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:28 AM
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41. She strikes a seemingly concilatory tone here, but she's done that before...
...only to undercut herself by going rip roaringly negative shortly thereafter Somebody should tell her that one person can't really play the "good cop", "bad cop" thing. I guess they tried to let Bill be "bad cop", but that didn't help her so much either.


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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:38 AM
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42. got another link to this besides Fox?
Fox = :puke: ya know.

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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:48 AM
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43. got one here
http://www.star-telegram.com/464/story/527273.html

It's just that I wanted to send this out and did not want to use a Fox Noise as a source.

Thanks for posting, OP.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:41 AM
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45. I was really taked aback by that. She didn't have to say that.
Why put that kind of thinking out there? Why would she foster an impression that she could lose?

I think she may be starting her (ahem)graceful exit.
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