My 2 cents .... Ferrero's Comments were and are part of team Hillary's plan

[Botany]

Look @ what was happening earlier in the primary Obama was getting
the majority of the white vote* in states as different as Iowa, Virginia,
Wisconsin, and Washington so the Clinton campaign had to put a
stop to that because they saw "white voters" as their base.

The idea that Ferrero was just a "loose cannon" is laughable because
I have done some work in a Presidential campaign (I was a very very
little cog) and I remember being told "You have no thoughts or opinions
to share with anybody as part of this campaign. We have spokespeople
that do that." If you are speaking for a Presidential campaign in any sort
capacity you get talking points and guidelines daily.

Also Pennsylvania's Governor Ed Rendell is on record as saying "Some
white people in PA will not vote a black man." (rough quote)


* In certain demographics also the white vote in some later races
might be corrupted by cross over voters.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Exactly. Loose cannons are not sent out on TV

Loose cannons aren't sent on media tours. Ferraro's message was deliberate and designed.
And if it wasn't, the Clintons are in even deeper shit than anyone can imagine.

[Botany]

5. I remember that people who spoke or were a public face for the campaign ..

.... got daily talking points and coaching on what to say.

"Is so and so on point?" ... that was a common line about people who
were going to speak to the media or to meetings.

[niceypoo]

9. Going by your logic...

...Obama ordered Samantha Powers to call Hillary a Monster then fired her for doing it. Also, going by your logic, Obama ordered her, in the same interview, to state that his Iraq policy was just for show.

[DevonRex]

14. Nice try.

She did not "state" that Obama's policy was just for show. Maybe you should read what she did say. And she was on her book tour in Freaking Scotland. Not on Bill-O, Hannity & FauxDem, a California Newspaper, John Gibson's radio show, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, saying the EXACT SAME THING over and over and actually making it worse.

[UALRBSofL]

15. I agree, Powers was a plant and it was designed by Obama and Axelord.

However, in Ferraro's defense, she made the very same exact statement in 1988 when Jessie Jackson was running.

[C_U_L8R]

17. Perhaps but I doubt it.

Powers was on her own book tour ... in the UK... and unfortunately ad-libbed
(we can discuss later whether she was accurate in calling Hillary a monster)

Whereas Ferraro was sent out numerous times in the past few days to the media with a singular message.
That was the sole purpose of her television appearances.

I don't think you can honestly believe Ferraro, who hasn't been in the political limelight for years,
just showed up at tv stations and started spouting this nonsense off on her own.
The Clintons always work to a plan.

[uberblonde]

11. Ferraro was doing an interview with a tiny little paper...

Before she gave a PAID speech that had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign. No one even noticed that interview until Kos decided to blow it up on his front page to collect a scalp. (Because, you know, that's the way short, insecure men are.)

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your good time!

[Jersey Devil]

13. yes, small media outlets are excellent for whispering campaigns

You can get up a full head of steam even in local shopping newspapers before anyone notices it. Then you just apologize and by that time it doesn't make any difference because the damage has been done and all the rumors you wanted to start have taken hold.

[Skidmore]

2. My thoughts have gone there too.

[underpants]

3. This will be the Repubs strategy in the GE too- suborbdinates attack...

and the campaign apologizes or distances themselves from it and the candidate stays far above the fray.

Hillary failed to take care of the last part.

Hillary is running an from-inside-DC campaign just like the RNC will

[Yurovsky]

7. In an odd way, she's doing Obama a favor ...

getting him experience in terms of dealing with small-minded, racist attacks, which the GOP will provide in abundance.

I just didn't expect if from a Democrat. But then again, the Clintons will do whatever they think it takes to win. I'm sure they're collecting dirt on every superdelegate, ready to go to the convention with offers they can't refuse.

We need to keep the process in the sunlight, or else democracy will suffer yet another setback in this country.

[lisa58]

4. You can tell by the reaction...

...when someone in the Bush Administration does something like say, out a CIA operative, there's no outrage - he's never pissed off or angry - it's what they wanted.

[OhioBlue]

6. I absolutely agree.

I think they have a very *hush hush* campaign strategy to try and subtly play to white voters prejudices.

[Kokonoe]

8. When Ms Ferrero was making her statements

I heard her say something about, If she was not a woman she would not have been on the ticket(the set up).
And I think Oh Boy, If the Obama campaign touches that with a ten foot pole its going to blow in his face.
Much to his credit and character, he never mentioned it. Thats why this stuff is not going to work against him.

[MadBadger]

10. She's expressing the same sentiment as Marcia Pappas of NY NOW

[Jersey Devil]

12. Absolutely. It's the leadin for the PA, NC campaigns

Someone else here labeled it the "Archie Bunker Strategy" yesterday and I think they hit it right on the money.

Clintons are risk takers. They sent Crazy Geraldine out to do as much damage as possible, knowing they'd take a hit for it but calculated that the damage inflicted by Ferraro on Obama would be worth more than any damage to the campaign if Hillary was forced to apologize and Crazy Geraldine to quit the Clinton campaign.

Same with the tax returns. They know not releasing them will be damaging but have calculated that it will be less damaging than releasing them and then trying to answer the many questions that will arise due to their release.

That's the way the Clinton's operate, calculating damage control is their forte'

[cooolandrew]

16. YES, they were race baiting to get elected it's not that easily forgiveavble at least this side of

side of the primary.

[mmonk]

18. I do believe the campaign is race baiting

trying to undo any white support for Obama. I also believe, like Olbermann, this is a suicide pact. As far as Ferraro goes, I think she may even be going further than the campaign anticipated because she is somewhat of a closet racist. This is entirely my opinion though.

[Flabbergasted]

19. I see it as fairly obvious.

[Recursion]

20. Big names are the exception

A campaign can't always rein in a bigshot's big mouth, if he or she wants to run it.

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

21. Obama still (despite the Clinton camp's best efforts) gets majority white votes...

in places where the white population is overwhelming. Wyoming happened just on Saturday.

[goodhue]

22. no doubt