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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:26 PM
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No permit for protest at GOP convention
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4862641/

No permit for protest at GOP convention
Anti-war group told that N.Y. crowd would be too big

The Associated Press
Updated: 9:47 a.m. ET April 29, 2004NEW YORK -

<snip>

An anti-war group planning a massive demonstration at the start of the Republican National Convention has been denied a permit to use Central Park because the crowd would be too large.


United for Peace and Justice said it planned to appeal.

The city parks department denied the group’s request to rally on the park’s Great Lawn after marching from 23rd Street and Eighth Avenue. A permit request for the march, submitted separately to the police department, is pending.

In denying the permit, city officials said the Aug. 29 event would exceed the 13-acre lawn’s capacity of 80,000 people and “cause enormous damage to the lawn.” The group said on its application that it expected 250,000 demonstrators.

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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:29 PM
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1. They had better figure something out...
were coming, permit or not.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:31 PM
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2. See you there.
:D
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ijk Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:52 PM
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4. Yeah
I kind of feel bad for the parks department. 250K people on the great lawn really will be a disaster for the park, and might well go badly for the people as well. But so it goes. Send the re-planting bill to the RNC, I guess, but for those of you headed to NYC - let's stay in the streets, and leave the park intact as much as possible, okay?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:51 PM
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3. i saw a blurb on the crawl at fox news -- early deadline for permits
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 10:52 PM by unblock
apparently there's an earlier-than-usual deadline for nyc permits if you want to protest the rnc convention.

organizers, get your permits before they deny more on stupid bureaucratic crap!
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 11:46 AM
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5. The only permit any American needs
is the Bill of Rights which gives us the right to assemble peacefully to protest.

Nowhere in there does it mention permits, free speech zones, deadlines, or anything of the sort that can be used to interfere or obstruct protests.

We have our permit thanks to the founding fathers. To heck with the bureaucrats.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 11:51 AM
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6. Tell that to the judge...
... presiding at your trial for unlawful assembly. Can we say 'guilty as charged'?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 11:57 AM
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7. They can't arrest all of us...
and I will venture to say that far more than 250,000 will show up.

This will be a peaceful rally, and there is no way it can be stopped w/o sealing off Manhattan. That act alone, would bring the GOP down.

I'll be there, and I'm not worried. If I get arrested because I came to assemble peacefully, and redress the ruling powers, so be it. There is a price to pay for Liberty, and I am willing to pay it.

O8)
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:02 PM
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8. I agree.
I was just pointing out the likelihood of success if you use that as a legal defense. :)
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:02 PM
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9. Not quite
Municipalities are allowed to impose reasonable content-free restrictions. But simply not allowing a protest at all because it would be too big? That seems unconstitutional.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:08 PM
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10. Just like Chicago 1968
The organizers of "Music festival" (that's what it was billed as) were denied a permit to stay in Grant Park after 10:00pm. At 10:00pm the police moved in and pushed 50,000 people into the street. Then the festivities really began.

"The whole world is watching" the crowd chanted. UNfotunately, theis was pretty much America's first real exposure to such protests. Middle America freaked. Nixon was elected.

I really really hope that whatever happens in NYC during the convention, it does not turn violent.

MzPip
:dem:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:11 PM
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11. I feel a riot coming on. n/t
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bhenries Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 02:20 PM
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12. Do you think that
the GOP will protest at the convention in Boston?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:25 PM
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14. Rove and DeLay
will send in the jackbooted freepers like they did with the goon squad that stormed the Miami election headquarters during the 2000 election steal.
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bhenries Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:04 PM
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15. Eh?
What exactly is a jackbooted freeper?
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:31 PM
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16. Not Freepers think LA 2000, American Friends,Anarchists,Greens and
anti war protesters are going some of my friens are going and then are going to march ten miles a day from boston to NYC to protest repug convention
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 03:28 PM
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13. Well I guess that's that
no one will show up now :evilgrin:
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