Hillarys Schedule : She helped with NAFTA

[The Ghost]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/From_the_schedules_Working_on_Nafta.html

[catgirl]

1. Interesting, she said she was always against it

There you go Ohio- you screwed up again.

[rinsd]

4. And all this says is that she made remarks at a briefing. No indication of what those remarks were.

[berni_mccoy]

14. Keep Denying it. You're not iniveted to these meetings if you oppose the issue.

And she gave opening statements.

[rinsd]

21. She gave the closing remarks.

You can even get the facts we actually right let alone the ones you are making up.

[catgirl]

32. Sounds like they were strong remarks in favor of NAFTA

Time to stop denying it. The persons responsible need to answer to
the people.

[papau]

She had a meeting with a hundred folks - perhaps asking for changes to fair trade

[rinsd]

11. We don't know that. And that really is the point. All the schedule provided was that she spoke.

While it seems some Obama "supporters" rather play make believe, we should not do the same.

[papau]

18. I agree - I'm just giving an example of what was possible

[berni_mccoy]

17. Perhaps talking about how Great NAFTA is going to be! These meetings are not for opposition.

[slinkerwink]

25. exactly!

[OzarkDem]

35. Since Alexis Herman was there

that's probably just what she was doing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Herman

[uponit7771]

10. Floridians and Ohioans, we have to watch out for them...

[rinsd]

2. Actual politico headline is : From the schedules: Working on Nafta

Why because all they have is that she scheduled 15 minutes for brief remarks at a NAFTA briefing.

We do not have a copy of her statements so Obama people claiming this is some kind of smoking gun that Hillary supported NAFTA is a lie. Just like the bullshit boon remark.

[The Ghost]

5. Ugh

I wasnt quoting their HEADLINE, those are MY WORDS.

Thanks conspiracy theorist.

[rinsd]

7. On edit: removed reference to lying.

Because all that link has is scheduled remarks and a reporter's conjecture based on that schedule.

[The Ghost]

9. NO ONE IS LYING

How am I lying?!??! I am paraphrasing this :

"She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change."

If anyone is LYING, it would be them, not ME.

[uponit7771]

13. They're defense, you can say the sky is blue and Hill supporters will call it a lie

[rinsd]

20. I apologize. Saying you were lying was harsh.

Sorry I am fresh off the same argument where the other poster repeetly stated that this showed Hillary supported NAFTA when it shows not much of anything.

My point is all we have is that she was scheduled to make brief remarks to close a NAFTA briefing. We have no idea what those remarks were. We don't know what those remarks were and neither does the AP which seems to want to play gotcha more than use actual facts.

[The Ghost]

22. Thank you.

I appreciate that, and I agree with all that you say in this post.

[slinkerwink]

29. so you think she opposed nafta in that briefing?

[rinsd]

31. I don't know what she said, neither do you.

The difference is one of us is claiming she did something without evidence.

[gayron]

3. Obama had two positions on NAFTA

So what is your point. Just as he does on Iraq, from the lips of Mrs. Powers.

[The Ghost]

6. Hillary

has two positions on EVERYTHING

[slinkerwink]

8. that pretty much debunks her lie

[papau]

12. what lie - she said she worked on NAFTA - and she did - perhaps to move "fair trade" idea

[slinkerwink]

16. I strongly doubt it

[gayron]

15. It confirms Obama's lie on opposing NAFTA

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[papau]

24. the Obama lie that is admited by Obama was his saying there was no meeting - the lie

he has not admitted is the telling the US voter that he was willing to end NAFTA if it was not changed to a "fair trade" treaty - while at the same telling Canada that there was no threat to end NAFTA if Canada did not agree to "fair trade".

Obama claims the write up of the meeting by Canada completely mis-states his position - and that he will end NAFTA if no change.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

23. Well, well, well, looky here, Hillary was lying the whole time!

[papau]

26. why do you insist on appearing to not being able to understand what a "schedule" is?

[OzarkDem]

34. You were at the meeting?

Do you know who Alexis Herman is?

[ORDem]

27. I think you are misinterpreting the schedule there...

It says she had opening and closing remarks, both of which I'm sure were something to the effect of "You know this NAFTA thing is a really bad idea, so let's not meet again, OK?".

:sarcasm: (for those who are challenged in this area).

[slinkerwink]

28. ha

[sniffa]

30. She just thought it was bunch of charts and stuff

*giggle*

[OzarkDem]

33. With Alexis Herman

who was a staunch advocate for worker's rights, much admired and respected by labor unions.

No doubt they were working on getting the provisions added to protect US jobs and wages. You know, the provisions that Bush later ignored and the GOP Congress failed to enforce. Yeah. Those.

Nice try, no cigar.