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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:16 PM
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I Mean is Dan Abrams Fuckin Kidding Me?
Ignoring the fact that he is defending Hillary on her clear lie about Bosnia, Dan Abrams has the audacity to claim that this is a nothing story that doesnt need to be covered at the lengths that it is, but The Wright Story should be rehashed yet again cuz Clinton brought it up. We should focus on the substance of what she says, not her timing because after ten days of saying nothing, TEN DAYS, she has decided now is a good time to bring this issue up. I've been gone for the past week and I even know that the coverage about Wright has been ENDLESS, and yet Dan Abrams seems to be completely blind to this and wants some more non-stop coverage of Wright. Anybody else see this segment?
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:17 PM
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1. I turned it off. He is so biased.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:18 PM
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2. I dont think he is biased, just acts like an idiot sometimes.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:23 PM
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41. I wrote him a nasty letter.
I told him that I have listened to several of Pastor Wrights sermons and found them edifying. I also said for him and his guests to continue to reduce Pastor Wright to a sound-bite that does not have anything to do with the sermons when one listens to them in full is a deplorable thing to do.

I then said SHAME ON YOU, to him.


I feel much better. I wish someone would show an entire sermon.

Thank goodness for YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/user/TRINITYCHGO

Those who judge Pastor Wright without hearing an entire sermon have done themselves and Pastor Wright a grave injustice!

K and R
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:18 PM
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3. Abrams is such a biased Clinton supporter, I quit watching him.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:18 PM
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4. The guy is an idiot, he should be taken of the air AGAIN, Changing the name of the show didn't help
If Imus had not fucked up then Joe would still have this time slot and Abrams would still be off the air


DAMN YOU IMUS
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:50 PM
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26. He tries to be cutting edge like Olbermann...
...but he just does not pull it off. Not even close. It's a train wreck.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:18 PM
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5. He's a total shill for Huckary
Like him when he's not covering the campaign though.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 PM
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12. He's afraid Hillary's camp will write a mean letter to MSNBC and get him fired.
Keith? Not so much. ;-)
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:07 PM
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34. let's all write to MSBNC then and tell them to tell Dan to
viewerservices@msnbc.com Viewer Services at MSNBC

In the meantime, I'll send them all this link with your thoughts....
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:43 PM
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43. Thank you for posting this.
I just sent a letter praising Dan Abrams for being the only objective talking head on MSNBC.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:18 PM
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6. I didn't see it
Very disappointing from a guy who's been going after Bushco pretty hard lately.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:19 PM
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7. I like Abrams in general... and right now he's a nice balance to KO..
None of these guys decides for me, but it doesn't hurt to see cases made for all.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:59 PM
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47. Thank you
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:19 PM
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8. Notice that no reporter ask if she actually WATCHED the entir sermon before spewing trash.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:19 PM
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9. And to think, I used to think he was kinda hot.
Lately, not so much. :-)
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 PM
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10. I saw the first couple of minutes of his show, and I knew it would an hour-long shill for Hill
So I switched off the teevee and jumped onto the internets instead.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 PM
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11. He and L:awrence O'Donnell busted her on Bosnia just the other day
but he should report on this as it was still going on today.

Wright is just the lilywhite press's only way to talk about "the black guy" without daring get near the "racist" edge.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 PM
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13. He tries to play devil's advocate
He's OK, tilts to Hillary, and doesn't like Bush.

I turn him off and listen to Mike Malloy at this time.

Which reminds me, Malloy is on!
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:57 PM
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25. Malloy is awesome.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:58 PM by DangerousRhythm
This wouldn't let me post it in my subject but I *heart* Malloy.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:04 PM
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32. Malloy..
:puke:
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:21 PM
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14. His fact-checking segments are ridiculous.
There will be a day when the Clintons do five outrageous things, and Obama is on vacation, but he picks things out of the air that make Clinton look halfway okay and Obama look like Dick Nixon.

It's only his choice of questions that keep things even close.

The only reason I watch him is to catch Rachel Maddow when she's on.

Same for David Gregory's new show. Yeah, I want to hear Pat Buchanan's view on race every afternoon.

What a joke.

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 PM
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15. Tries to pathetically play devils advocate. Looked like an idiot trying to defend HC lies
but now he is going after her poaching delegates. Who is that Lanny Davis crackpot advising Clinton. He is horrific.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:23 PM
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16. I love how he let Lanny Davis spew his crap
about Rev Wright saying he blamed america for 9/11. No mention about how he was quoting a General who was interviewed on Fox News. Isn't his whole shtick about fairness and not taking sides? Good job!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:26 PM
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42. Lanny Davis just did the same think on AC360. He was called on this bullshit and
attempt to rehash the entire issue by Joe Klein and Anderson both. Still, he was YELLING about 9.11 and terrorism crap while they were trying to shut him up. the Clintons and their surrogates are absolutely pathetic.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:28 PM
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17. OMG! He tilts to HIllary!!! FIRE HIM NOW!!!!
I seem to remember some Obama supporters scorning people who denounced KO as having a bias towards Obama. I DO NOT agree that people who are clearly pundits giving their opinions should be chastised, no matter who they support or do not support. I'd been souring about Keith for awhile, for reasons unrelated to any campaign.

However, now that someone isn't licking Obama's...er...cheerleading for..er...genuflecting..uh....okay, is tilting towards Hillary, having the UNMITIGATED GALL to defend her, ON AIR YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!

Yeah. NOW it's okay to call for firing the horrible person for supporting a candidate.

Double standard, but that's par for the course around here.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:31 PM
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I never said he even tilts to Hillary at all...Jeez
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:48 PM by hnmnf
In fact I say otherwise in this thread. I'm just talking about is shitty coverage of this issue.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:31 PM
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20. delete
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:48 PM by hnmnf
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:29 PM
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18. he leans toward Clinton but at least he attacks McCain
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:29 PM
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19. Yeah he was way off there
He's twisting himself in knots trying to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. How many times has he accidentally inserted sniper fire when he talks to people about trips he has taken?
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:46 PM
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21. All that said, his show nearly always gives more bad marks to Hillary than to Obama
And I do agree he has often seemed to be biased for Hillary.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:47 PM
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22. I dont think he is biased towards Hillary, but that he is a shotty political analyst.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:50 PM
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24. Well, I can't argue with that overmuch (he's fairly shoddy)
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:51 PM by Drachasor
I think it would help, a little, if he gave quarter and half marks, since often he says Obama barely earns a mark on this or that.

I wonder if he has rules he doesn't talk about regarding things. Sometimes he says he doesn't care about the politics of something, because what they said was false/cheap/whatever, and other times he says things are ok because they are politically wise. At least that's how I remember it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:48 PM
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23. Rec'd ...dan abrams needs to hear from his
audience. viewerservices@msnbc.com
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:52 PM
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27. he shills for the cackler everyday..
i dunno why.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:01 PM
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29. Why does KO shill for Obama the liar everyday?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:01 PM
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28. She made a mistake, she mispoke.
They were prepared to deal with the potential of sniper fire.
That never happened. Still, they were rightfully prepared.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:03 PM
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30. BS - She lied from prepared statements on 4 separate occasions
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:03 PM
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31. He's a shameless Hillarite.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:46 PM
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44. That photo is just asking to be captioned!
"Abomination/Judas 08'!"
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:49 PM
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45. My caption....
Obama: "So, Bill, who really sprung for the chicken wings on Superbowl Sunday?
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:06 PM
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33. I saw it. And, I tuned out until he called Rush Limbaugh on the voter fraud. I wish
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:12 PM by better tomorrow
Dan would keep his act together. He needs to stick with legal issues....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:09 PM
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35. Dan Abrams comes across as a total lightweight in the Fucker Carlson mold
His cartoon graphics on his show fit his childish antics.

Yes, it was total vapor for me where he was saying Hillary's GI Jane moment wouldn't be a big deal... ferchrissakes, it would be the easiest McCain ad in the World. It was more damaging by leagues over Kerry's "I voted for it before I voted against it" misstatement.

Add this to the dozen or so Achilles Heels that Hillary is collecting.

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:10 PM
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36. Well Dan is pro-Hillary and has been that way consistently.
I don't really have that much of a problem with it, given Keith immediately precedes him. Between the two, it's a draw.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:11 PM
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37. I had him on and emailed him when I turned it off....
I couldn't stand Lannie Davis and Dan was ineffective in limiting Lannie's remarks and giving that girl more of a chance to talk.

Lannie infuriated me when he started about how delegates who were able to count "electoral college" votes should not honor their pledge to those who elected them to vote for Obama because he was not electable.

I'm talking about the delegates picked up in primaries and caucuses - not the supers.

I emailed Abrams and told him I had turned him off....he has an email thingy on his "Race to the WhiteHouse" section.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:13 PM
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38. or just put verdict@msnbc.com in your address book
it's faster!
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:16 PM
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39. Many thanks - will do
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:18 PM
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40. he is correct it was a fucking "fish tale" an emblishment of a true story...get over it
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:18 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:56 PM
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46. dan's okay considering all the other right-wingnut trash on the msm.
next to keith, he's my number 2 network news show.

those two are the closest we have to dem-leaning shows on the networks.

and i'll certainly take dan over anderson cooper anyday.
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smoochy Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:01 PM
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48. I think he's always been pretty fair
I like his show.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:07 PM
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49. For him it's about ratings. He's made the judgment to not alienate Hillary's fanbase.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's feeling pressure to appeal to her fan base from above in an attempt to balance out the pro Obama views of Mathews and KO. Abrams even has a score board for Pete's sake. How can you sustain that format without balancing out the wins for each candidate one day to the next. That's where the pretzel logic comes in.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:41 PM
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50. Abrams
He Is defently bised towards Clinton.If You are a supporter of Obama stick with KO.And am I the only one that Is sick and tired of Pat Buchanan on David Gregory.It's bad enough a former Republican
candiate analyzing a Democratic race but on every day Is too much.Hell matthewes Is better than
Gregory's show.
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