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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:25 PM
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Video of Hillary's lies about Bosnia trip goes viral, over a million views on Youtube. Thank you DU!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4

Thank you for your help in exposing the truth!
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:27 PM
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1. The strangest thing about this topic...
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 09:47 PM by physioex
Is that Pat Robertson was defending her on the 700 club. I have a sneaky feeling that he is somehow wanting her to win the nomination.....
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:29 PM
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2. Experience = imagination???
LOL
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:29 PM
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3. It's because Drudge has linked it for over 24 hours now
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 09:30 PM by Cali_Democrat
He's really been hammering Clinton over this.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:33 PM
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4. A little embarrassing.
She should have known this could possibly come back and bite her.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:33 PM
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5. First Lady flies into war torn region to bring comfort and boost the morale of US Troops
And being a war torn region, it would not be unusual to think that there were snipers in the areas outside the secured base. This was no flight to Disneyworld on Jet Blue. It was the First Lady of the United States bringing comfort and boosting the morale of US Troops stationed in a hostile region.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:35 PM
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6. It kind of was DisneyWorld. Sinbad, Sheryl Crow, and a bunch of kids.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:35 PM
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7. Is anyone criticizing her for making the trip?
Nope. So I'm not quite sure what you're angling for here.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:38 PM
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8. Her account is being criticised.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 09:45 PM by mmonk
I think the trip was a good thing. But she said something on the campaign trail that she went because it was too dangerous for the President to be there. And then there was the sniper fire story she gave. I guess the angle they are hoping for is glossing over her account I presume.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:45 PM
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13. yep
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:46 PM
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14. So she brought her only child?!?...
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 09:47 PM by misanthrope
...I don't know any mothers who would willingly put their child in a situation they felt was that dangerous.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:08 PM
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29. Your kidding, right?
OMG!!! She hinted she went because it was too dangerous for Bill,...but brought her daughter?

I hadn't heard that. OH! Fer Gawds sake!

:vomick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:22 PM
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30. Yes. She actually said they said it was too dangerous
for Bill to go so they said why not send the first lady. I laughed my ass off. Heard it on Ed Schultz I believe.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:25 PM
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23. Taxmyth has found a soothing little mantra to get him/her through this
It goes like this:

War torn
Boosting morale
Giving aid and comfort to the troops
It's not unreasonable to think

Now, if you repeat that in various combinations 4000 times on these boards in the next 24 hours, you will reach Hillvana. It's all very peaceful there. Except for the snipers.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:40 PM
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11. But she said she remembered "landing under sniper fire. There was no greeting ceremony."
There was a greeting ceremony. I don't think she would have brought Chelsea with her if she thought there was immediate danger.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:41 PM
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27. Zzzz
:boring: the Mother Teresa bit, isn't flying.
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:28 AM
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33. it has nothing to do with her role as first lady making what is a humanitarian trip
this is about her assertion that she has the experience to be commander in chief as a result of that role as first lady which in and of itself is laughable unless she's imagining herself as Eleanor roosevelt. what she has put on display is her willingness to lie to support that assertion and now she has been caught in it. no less than what she deserves.
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:39 PM
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9. have you watched the original news coverage?...
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pef5AUt-tic

the sad thing is that the trip really does have some relevance and was a great thing for her to do... its just a shame that she felt the need to embellish the story and make it more dramatic-- now the whole thing is tainted.

i still think that its not the lying that is important (all politicians lie)-- but what is important is why she lied. and to me the claim that they sent her if it was too dangerous for bill to go is a slap in the face to President Clinton-- to imply that he was such a coward that he would rather send his wife and daughter. thats disgusting.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:43 PM
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12. Quite. She had absolutely no need to lie about it.
On it's own merits, it was an honorable trip
until she went all Commander McBragg on it.
Indubitably.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:56 AM
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35. Bingo! what bozo in her camp set her up for this? Ugh STUIPID
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:47 PM
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16. Pretty Outrageous
The news coverage today makes it look like Bosnia was so peaceful, you know, like a summer farmer's market.

The news coverage in 1996 does not clearly state there was no sniper fire, but it does mention that it was dangerous.

The sad thing is that all of Hillary Clinton's misstatements are given so much attention. It is like they started with the hypothesis that she is untrustworthy and searched for evidence to support it. A preview of the general election if she's our nominee.

Heaven forbid we should talk about the forty odd million Americans (we don't want to get the number wrong and be accused of another lie) who don't have health coverage.

We don't want to talk about people being kicked out of their homes as the mortgage meltdown continues - we bail out Bear Stearns their foolish investment decisions, but not John and Jane Doe.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:49 PM
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17. hey! i want to talk about that stuff...
and i want to start talking about McCain and the GE... but when i do i seem to be talking to myself.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:57 PM
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18. We Need To Split The Forum
We need two GD: Primaries forums.

One for debating real issues and qualifications differences between the candidates with no negative statements about either Obama or Clinton.

Another for being nasty, petty and childish (which I enjoy too on occasion, but it's getting old) - a no holds barred smack down - the online political debate equivalent of Wrestle mania!
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:09 PM
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20. i think the idea has been tossed around before...
something like GD.Primaries and GD.PrimariesMyCandidateF*ckedYourMother
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:39 PM
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10. (Sarcasm On) Yes, Thanks DU
Thanks for helping tear down Hillary Clinton.

(Sarcasm Off)

I was an Edwards supporter, and I prefer Obama to Clinton, but this is getting ridiculous.

If somehow Clinton is our nominee, this will surely be used against her in the general election. It may happen anyway, but we don't need to contribute to it.

Do we know there wasn't another Bosnia trip or that Clinton didn't make a genuine mistake?

And what about Obama? He gave a speech in Selma Alabama which implied that the marches there encouraged his father to come to the US, even though the event was after Obama's birth. Of course, unlike Clinton, Obama never directly said that, he only implied it. Yet, it could just as easily be used against him (like the smear that Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet).

Folks, we need to start running a cleaner primary here. I am tired of the finger pointing, it's like two kids whining, "but Mo---om, she hit me first." "did not." "did too." The campaigns and their supporters need to just cut out the crap, otherwise, they may as well BOTH drop out now and just let McCain win in November - because that's going to be the end result of all this petty bickering anyway.

Does anyone care to debate who has the best health plan? (I like Clinton's)
Does anyone care to discuss who we believe will best restore our reputation abroad (I think Obama)
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:47 PM
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15. i think Clinton's health plan is better and she is more sincere regarding health care...
i agree that Clinton's is marginally better than Obama's and since she has been working on it for years it is probably better planned and comprehensive. however i believe that either of their health plans will be watered down before they are implemented anyways. As for Obama restoring the United States' reputation in the world-- i think that he beats her hands down. and i believe that Obama's ability to bring in new voters and young voters is also a major factor that many people are trying to discredit. the young people are the future of our country-- if they continue to not give a damn then we will all be fucked when we get "old."

hmmm, i guess that isnt much of a debate since we agree. :)
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:21 PM
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22. I wish you had been there to share this logic & rationale with
Sen. Clinton. There was no need to for her to comment on Rev. Wright. So by your logic, Dems shouldn't be tearing down each other, because either of them could wind up with the nomination. With that, I agree.

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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:54 AM
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34. I Do Agree
And it is one of the reasons I prefer Obama to Clinton - fair or not, I have a perception that she has been more negative than he. She may have been treated harder by the media, but in looking at how the candidates actually treat each other, I see it as her being more willing to use a scorched earth policy to get the nomination.

Again, it is my perception and my opinion, so I don't want Clinton supporters reminding me of every negative thing Obama has done in the campaign or Obama supporters talking about times the media has gone after him, or anyone advocating the virtues of a tough scrimmage before the big game.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:06 PM
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19. It's great that You-Tube is running the Wright video and this Bosnia video.
Both of these topical, high-interest videos reveal important qualities about the candidates. I hope both continue to score millions and millions of hits.

Meanwhile, both canddates can use exactly the same excuses to try to deflect any negative opinions that result from all those views. That, er, they must have been mistaken a little bit.

One good thing about being Democrats: we all agree that these You-Tube videos are wonderful, and we hope as many people as possible see them.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:37 PM
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25. Oh! So now it's ...
...lets talk about the important issues.

Yep, those important issues that were never important when:

Whether Obama was a Muslim or not.
When John McCain experience trumped that of Obama's.
The 3:00am red phone.
Who married Obama and Michelle.
Who Baptised his kids.
What his pastor said.
What his pastor didn't say.
The character insult of a decent man, Bill Richardson.
What States delegates were important.
What States delegates weren't important.
Why Hillarys vote was important.
Why McCain's vote was important.
Why Obama's speech wasn't?

Etc. etc. etc.

Now, when Hillary gets caught in a lie it's funny how thats not important but the issues are.

It's like 40 million people lost their healthcare, homes and jobs post sniper-gate and suddenly became important.

I don't like to see another Democrats campaign nose dive but she should have thought of the reprecussions when she went self serving and hell bent on trying to destroy that young mans political future at the detrement of the whole Party. She reeps what she sewed.

Like my daughter says sarcastically..."I hate, IT!"

Hypocricy beyond belief.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:38 PM
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26. Exactly--NOW the Hillarites want to talk issues. LOL! Nope. Sorry.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:41 PM
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28. I wasn't replying...
to post #19 BTW. Sorry.

Just a statement in general.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:04 AM
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31. yeppers
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:11 PM
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21. Funny Column About Hillary Turning into Nixon
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:18 AM
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32. One correction...
...The Clintons were operating in this manner before they were ever "Atwatered, Starred or Roved."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 PM
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24. Good. This should bring her lying ass down.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:58 AM
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36. Everyone has false memories. This is nothing compared to the festering cancer of the Wright scandal
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:36 AM
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38. Uh...you remember if you are shot at. You don't just 'misremember' memories of being under fire.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 08:37 AM by GarbagemanLB
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:35 AM
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37. lool
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