She expects Obama to disown Wright, but she was just fine staying with Bill after he cheated on her.

[RBInMaine]

What an opening she gives people with her hypocritical, horrid, rotten, invocation of the Rev. Wright matter. She says we can choose our pastors but not our parents, etc., so she would have disowned Wright had she been in Obama's shoes. (How SLICK !!) Well, Slick Hilly, you could have chosen to DIVORCE your husband (yes, you can CHOOSE your spouse) when he screwed around on you time and time and time again. So don't go judging Obama over the very few comments of an otherwise well respected AA preacher whom YOUR HUSBAND invited to the White House. The are COMPLEX personal relationships, as you well know. MANY other women would have left a multiple-cheater husband. That would have been their CHOICE. It wasn't yours. DO NOT JUDGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY TO DO SO !

[leftofcool]

1. Oh please!

Get a grip

[indimuse]

2. ??? stupido...

...

[dkf]

3. Well a wife definitely can choose her husband and she can

also choose to kick a lying cheating dog to the curb.

[polpilot]

54. It was a low blow to their relationship...no doubt.

[psychopomp]

4. Despite the shrill tone, I find your point interesting and provacative

I think you could have made this point in a manner that would have turned on some lightbulbs in people's heads had they not been put on the defensive immediately by the derisive, confrontational tone that you chose to write in.

[ShortnFiery]

5. A serial adulterer for a husband. Unlike Hilly, I would have walked out on his cheating a**.

What message does that give to young girls? I sure as hell would not ever again have unprotected (diseases) with him. Bill Clinton has a history of adultery - that's a problem.

HRC has no ground for touting her self-righteous side especially when it comes to morality.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

42. So then Obama will walk out on America & say fuck her because he & Wright hate what she did?

that's what you are advocating with your post?

[Seeker30]

47. Blame Hillary for being cheated on...can you dumbasses get any sicker?

Would you be blaming Obama if his dad molested him? Go seek some fucking help.

[Arkansas Granny]

50. That would have been your decision to make and I could respect that. Many women decide

to react differently. I don't approve of what Bill did, but I will leave the decision as to whether to continue or end their marriage up to the two people involved.

[jefferson_dem]

6. She has zero credibility.

That is all.

[DrDan]

7. uh . . . that is quite a stretch

[thunder rising]

9. Not even! At the minimum this is speech vs. actions. Saying "GD America" vs an actual BJ.

[DrDan]

33. saying "GD America" as a motivator to

influence the thinking of many, encourage activism and carry the message further.

vs a violation of vows in a private 2-person relationship. An act that needs resolution in the context of the relationship - and is no one's business except the couple.

[Independent-Voter]

35. Then there's that little perjury thingy, that led to that impeachment thingy, that led to Bush II

for 8 years. No big shakes.

[PBS Poll-435]

63. Yeah, and a high-profile DIVORCE

between the sitting President of the US and the First Lady wouldn't have been damaging at all!

And seriously, "Fucktards for Nader, Inc." is the reason for Bush II; who, by the way, was the last candidate pimping real "change."

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

39. as opposed to Adulterous Bill, and the "pious Clintons"?

we all know what devout Christians the Clintons are, that is, when
Bill needs "redemption" for his latest oval room blow job.

[DrDan]

49. oh good heavens

when did DU get involved in a couple's sex life and personal faith.

This thread reads like FR.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. Yes, there is a similarity.

[thunder rising]

8. You don't choose your parents? She just provided an escape hatch for Chelsea.

[Perry Logan]

10. Meanwhile, the festering cancer of the Wright scandal grows and grows.

[RBInMaine]

18. No, the "festering cancer" is growing on your gal SLICK HILLY !

[Raine]

11. That thought occured to me too

when Hillary got on her self-rightious high horse about Wright. You can't choose your relatives but you do choose your spouse. Hillary choose to stay with a spouse who betrayed and humiliated her time and time again.

[Catch22Dem]

12. I'm an Obama supporter and I find this post offensive!

Any DUer who uses the term Slick Hilly ought to be gone. Hillary has plenty of faults to pick on. The fact that she and Bill managed to work through their problems and remain together is definitely NOT one of them. Repeating (modified) RW insults adds nothing whatsoever to the public discourse here at DU. I think Rush Limpballs would be very proud of you.

[RBInMaine]

19. Hillary has gone Kitchen Sink, Scorched Earth, and crossed EVERY line of decency.

I'm sorry, but I have had it up to my ears with Hillary and her GAMES.
She has embraced the R candidate to attack Obama, now she uses Wright in a SLICK, yes SLICK, way to divert attention from her latest LIE about Bosnia. I voted for Bill twice. I am a lifelong D. But Hillary and her games have crossed EVERY line. She has EARNED IT !!

[dkf]

13. But, given all I have heard and seen, Bill Clinton would not be my husband...

Maybe I could have forgiven one affair, but the serial women, the constant bimbo eruptions, and for Gods sakes, the INTERN in the White House when I am in residence. Geez Louise! How is any self-respecting woman supposed to put up with it? Answer: She doesn't.

[Name removed]

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[dkf]

48. The title is a paraphrase of her statement on Obama and Rev. Wright replacing Bill with the Rev.

Read it again.

[Seeker30]

53. If someone needs to explain the difference then your mental health is in serious question

[asteroid2003QQ47]

14. Define "Cheating" please.

No fair using black and white terms, give us
who did what to who, why, when and how you
would be in a position to know.
Your linkage of "preacher" and "respect" would
seem to cast doubt on your powers of reasoning
and detachment from reality as said description
is a contradiction in terms, is it not?

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It's showbusiness, play the game but don't ever believe in it.

[RBInMaine]

16. Give me a break! He CHEATED (admittedly) with J.Flowers and Monica.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

20. Break? No way!

You're ducking out on defining "cheating?"

[crispini]

23. Next, are you going to post, "It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is?"

:eyes:

[asteroid2003QQ47]

25. Just answer the questions as stated, please.

You are cordially invited to help out, crispini.

[crispini]

27. Helloo.... Monica ... blowjob... did you sleep through the 90s?

As I recall he was married to Hillary at the time. That's cheating.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

64. Once again

Define "Cheating" please.

No fair using black and white terms, give us
who did what to who, why, when and how you
would be in a position to know.
Your linkage of "preacher" and "respect" would
seem to cast doubt on your powers of reasoning
and detachment from reality as said description
is a contradiction in terms, is it not?

Why is it so difficult for you to just answer the question?

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"The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was, as we see in the... passages from St. Paul, based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable. A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by sane people as a morbid aberration. The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life."
(Bertrand Russell / 1872-1970 / Marriage and Morals)

[PBS Poll-435]

61. I don't know who J. Flowers is,

But seriously. By your standard, anyone who has problems in their marriage should get divorced right away, or else, they are condoning divisive lies and racism?

[MadBadger]

15. K&R...I couldnt have said so better myself...though I did lol.

[RBInMaine]

17. This is a FAIR post after Hillary's HORRID and SLICK use of the Wright matter !

[roseBudd]

21. And she obviously did not choose her brothers, but her position enriched tthem with tthe Rich pardon

and it WAS quite lucrative

[QC]

22. Why do so many Obama supporters sound just like late-90s freepers?

That's an honest question, and it's one I still have not managed to get an honest answer to. Why are all the pet pathologies of the crotch-sniffing pervert trash wing of the GOP now on display on DU? Why?

This kind of shit does no credit to Obama, who, as far as I can tell, is a decent, intelligent man burdened with some very nasty, deranged followers.

[Hope And Change]

24. Exactly my thoughts RBInMaine.K&R!

:thumbsup:

[TheZug]

26. This is a good point, actually.

And it deserves to be repeated. Often.

[DemVet]

28. Apples and Oranges.

I think sticking with your cheating husband is just a little different than sticking with your racist pastor.

[TheZug]

29. What if your cheating husband was president and humiliated not only her but set back his party?

[berni_mccoy]

30. It's clear after this election that she stayed married for politcal reasons and power

[Arkansas Granny]

52. We have no way of knowing why she stayed married and, frankly, it's none of our business.

I could just as easily say that she stayed married because they had worked out their problems and she still loved her husband. They are the only ones who know for sure.

[MaineDem]

59. Thank you

Maybe she took those vows she made seriously.

[Froward69]

31. It is blatently obvous

Hillary did not leave Bill... So she could run for President. Damaging the Democratic party is a result of her selfish single mindedness.

[wndycty]

32. This is a personal issue but...

... so is Obama's relationship with his pastor.

[Medusa]

34. Bill promised her a political career of her own

she stayed with him solely for that reason.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. oh what's the matter honey, did your wife dump you?

[LisaL]

37. She didn't expect Obama to disown Wright.

She said she wouldn't have Wright as her pastor.
And frankly after what that pastor said about her and Bill, she'd have to be crazy to have Wright as her pastor.
Get a clue.

[stevenleser]

38. Absent Hillary's use of the Wright issue, this post would be offensive. But it shows just how far

Hillary has dragged down the debate in this race for the nomination. This race has gone on too long, and because they were losing, Hillary and her surrogates have done too much to drag it into the mud. This post is where this race is and it is here because of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary and her surrogates and supporters cannot cry foul on this kind of a post now. I mean, they can, but it would be just another obvious case of pot..kettle.

[LisaL]

41. Just like DUbamas should shut up and not whine when anything

negative is posted about their idol.
You've lost any right to complain, considering what you post here about Hillary.

[DemzRock]

40. But Bill is full of love (for all women) and Wright is full of hate. hehe n/t

[Bullet1987]

43. Hillary Clinton has redefined hypocrisy this entire election season

Everything from Michigan/Florida...to this.

[GarbagemanLB]

44. You don't choose your family, but you do choose your husband.

[Vinca]

45. The Clintons seem to think this issue will never come up in the campaign.

It would be the centerpiece of the Republican campaign. They would replay clips from that time and ask if Americans want this in the White House again. It would be a killer for the Democrats and would probably drag down congressional candidates as well.

[PBS Poll-435]

55. What part of 'Til Death Do Us Part ....

Do you not understand?

[quantass]

56. That's a good point

[shadowknows69]

57. Geez is this the talking point today

I really don't feel we need to go down this road folks. We want to make the Wright thing the non-issue it is, not throw gas on the fire.

[MaineDem]

58. Maybe she believes in her marriage vows

I don't think how she conducts her marriage is fair game and I'm distressed by the thought that we would bring it up.

(I am not a Clinton supporter.)

[Bolo Boffin]

60. I don't think she should have divorced Bill

I don't think Obama should have left that church.

The overall impact of both Bill and Jeremiah Wright is so much more than Bill's affair and Jeremiah's jeremiad.

[theredpen]

62. And as I wish to see no more slime about Wright, I'm done with slime about the Clinton's marriage

[asteroid2003QQ47]

65. So you want to get it on with...

Monica

Most of her and Bill's most outspoken critics would, though I find few will admitt it.
(Hell, I would in a heartbeat, what redblooded male wouldn't?)
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People often try to hide unacceptable behavior from themselves or others by engaging in behaviors or causes that speak to the opposite intentions. So a man who has an unacceptable erotic attraction to kids would dedicate energy to a cause that prevents or prosecutes such behavior."

Dr. judith Kuriansky,
Licensed clinical psychologist in the
Department of Clinical Psychology at
Columbia University