Clinton: "We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates"

[sabra]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1725514,00.html

Exclusive: Clinton Vows to Push On
Wednesday, Mar. 26, 2008 By MARK HALPERIN

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Last question Senator. Some people look at the current state of the delegate counts and say the only way you can win the nomination is at the convention, with a convention where delegates move around perhaps, and you'll make your case side by side. Are you comfortable if that's the way you win the nomination, going all the way to Denver and winning it there? Is that a comfortable outcome for you?

You know it's the same thing for Senator Obama. Neither of us will reach the number of delegates needed. So I think that that is, you know, the reality for both of our campaigns. And all delegates have to assess who they think will be the strongest nominee against McCain and who they believe would do the best job in bringing along the down-ballot races and who they think would be the best President. And, from my perspective, those are all very legitimate questions, and as you know so well, Mark, every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose. We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment. And, you know, I'm just going to do the best I can in the next 10 contests to make my case to the voters in those elections and then we'll see where we are.

[Catherina]

1. When Obama's sworn in on inauguration day she'll STILL be thinking she can win n/t

[Alter Ego]

3. "Once those returns come in from Guam I am IN LIKE FLYNN, BABY!"

[Why Syzygy]

5. She is very much part of the old energies

and they will hang on as long as there is a gasp left in their old tired partial lung.

[DemzRock]

10. I should save these posts. In ten years, if BO is successful, someone will

be saying the same thing about BO. Calling him an "old energy."

Why is Obama's group blocking Candidate X? They are such blankity blanks.

[Why Syzygy]

17. Do you have a point?

Are we talking about ten years hence? Not that I noticed.

For NOW, Obama represents the New Energy for our world. Clinton is very much old energy, which also creates a drag on the new for a bit. It's a birthing process. The evolution process will still be in effect in ten years, as far as we know. So, yeah, duh, anything out of date will be so. No one can predict who that will be.

[marshall]

20. Only if Michelle Obama is grappling for the presidency

Because in ten years Barack will have been out of office for two years and his VP will be president.

[Spider Jerusalem]

22. She'll hold a separate inauguration: 'President-in-Exile of the States That Really Matter'

[Alter Ego]

2. "So-called pledged delegates"?

Could she be any more transparent?

How would she feel if she was ahead and Obama was trying to poach pledged delegates from her?

[npincus]

4. Has Hillary thought through the "Day After"?

If she should prevail through any of the machinations she and her campaign have proposed, via superdelegates, browbeaten pledged delegates, or projected electoral votes, what will the Day After look like for our party? How will disenfranchised Obama voters and African-AMerican Democrats feel about the Democratic Party gifting the nomination to Hillary though she lost the popular and delegate votes. Has she thought it through? Does she really win that way? Does she want to?

She needs a long weekend off the camapgn trail to think this through.

[havocmom]

11. Hillary willing to lose to an older man (McCain) but not to a younger Obama

means to her, attaining the Office is more important than ANYTHING. She knows if she loses the nomination, but if she bloodies the nominee enough to lose the GE, she gets a chance to pull all this crap AGAIN in 4 years, IF there is anything left of the party by then.

She is willing to sacrifice the best interests of party, people, the nation so she gets another crack at running for president should she not get this one.

THAT sort of driving ambition indicates something very tragic about her values.

[havocmom]

6. sounding more like george W who-cares-what- you-think bush to me all the time

Instead of winning votes on issues and leadership, HRC campaign wants to change rules and/or skate around them.

Memo to Team Clinton: America is sick and tired of that lame assed substitute for ethics and leadership.

ENOUGH.

[IDemo]

7. The so-called voters are paying attention to this nonsense

[olkaz]

8. It's time the media picked up on this bizarre contradiction...

Voters voice not being heard in Michigan and Florda=Disenfranchisement.

Convincing pledged delegates (who represent the voters voice across the country) to go against their constituent's wishes=Fair Game.

Media? Hello? Anybody?

[juajen]

16. The rules of the party will guide delegate selection, and

the rules are that pledged delegates that change their vote. You gotta live it. It is the same for both candidates. I'm sure some delegates will change their Clinton vote for Obama also. Circumstances in each state differ, and the pledged delegates can vote their choice. Party Rules state this, not me. Donna Brazille was explaining this to Wolf Blitzer on CNN yesterday.

[Skidmore]

9. You don't count...

is essentially what the Clintons are saying to millions and millions of voters in many states, not just the few big states.

[bunnies]

12. Actually, FL and MI should count. The rest of us can go screw.

Logical.

[City Lights]

13. You know, I'm starting to, you know, get to the point where, you know,

I can, you know, no longer stand her.

:puke:

[flor de jasmim]

14. And this is why we're seeing so many useless national polls.

Don't believe ANY of them.

[Fire_brand]

15. Screw the voters, it's about who's the strongest nominee agaisnt McCain...

In Hillary's opinion

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. Once again, the Clinton's try to disenfranchise voters.

:rofl:

[IA_Seth]

19. Let's just hope she is as forgiving...

When/If I decide to change my support from Sen Clinton to Sen Obama..

The way things are going, I am just about there.

[tabasco]

21. kick

:kick: