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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:48 AM
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So, ummm, why shouldn't Clinton stay in the race? This...
is her last shot at the White House and who wouldn't take it to the wire if there was still a chance? Is she being "selfish" for going for it? Maybe, but that's part of the game and we're all guilty of that. Show me the list of people, public and private, who gladly took one for the team.

I don't buy the "tearing the party apart" line. Pennsylvanians don't seem terribly upset that they still have a choice at the end of the month. Some party hacks are inconvenced by all this, and others are nervous about making their bets when there's still a race on, but there doens't seem to any real outrage among the public. A little weariness, maybe, but blame that on those scumbags in New Hampshire who just have to have that early primary. And stop listening to TV newshacks who keep telling us how miserable we are.

Shit, we had an early candidate last time and look how that worked out.

It's costing too much money, that's for damn sure, but other than that we're getting a hell of a vetting of two great candidates. The winner should be able to eat McCain for lunch and have room for a really sweet dessert.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:51 AM
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1. She has a right to stay in the race but it prevents the party
from running an official campaign against McCain to get voters who are on the fence. Our winner may not have time to eat McCain for lunch if this drags on.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:52 AM
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2. There would be no reason for her to withdraw if she had not been
making damaging statements that seemed to support mcsame. In the past we have had primaries where all candidates focused on the ills of the other party and worked together to find the peoples choice in their own party. This race has been different as it seems Obama is her enemy.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:56 AM
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5. Well said..
the problem with Hillary is her terrible decision making...going after her own party member just hurts us all in the end...and she never learns.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:53 AM
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3. She can run so long as she can afford too.
It is her choice.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:53 AM
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4. Umm, because she has no chance to win other than to handicap Obama.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:56 AM
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6. What would Rocky do?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:59 AM
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7. It's only selfish if she has little chance of winning...
...and her remaining in the race does long-term damage to the party's chances.

I'm convinced of the former, but not of the latter.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:16 AM
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8. I don't buy tearing the party apart either
It's called democracy. I support Obama, but see nothing wrong with having a vigorous debate and a real competition for the nomination.

Having said that, democracy also requires that the will of the people is the deciding factor in who wins and who loses.

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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:18 AM
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9. Yep. Does anyone here actually believe that Barack Obama would get out of the race...
...were he in the position Hillary Clinton is in now? Of course not.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:22 AM
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10. Had Obama lost 11 contests in a row, he would have been
laughed out of the race. It's certainly not Hillary's fault that she gets extra credibility by bearing the name Clinton but it is a fact.
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ImpeechBush Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:24 AM
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11. It's all going to be decided by superdelegates not voters
So if they want her out of the race, all they need to do is say so.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:40 PM
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12. her attitude reminds me of this bit from Dumb and Dumber
Lloyd: What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary: Well, that's pretty difficult to say.
Lloyd: Hit me with it! I've come a long way to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.

Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:46 PM
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13. I cannot count how many times I've used that
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:55 PM
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18. bwa ha ha
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:46 PM
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14. She can't pay her past due debts and she's racking up new ones daily
Small vendors, school districts, colleges and communities (not to mention staff) and she's stiffing them.

How many months should folks go without pay?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:47 PM
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15. Making Obama waste money fighting her. Time to focus on McCain
really.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:49 PM
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16. How can you be sure that "This is her last shot at the White House?"
Come on, she's only 61.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:52 PM
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17. I wouldn't normally mind
the long primary season, if Hillary was running a valid campaign, not a slash and burn campaign.

I see the plus side to this, the Democratic race is more exciting thus getting the most press. McCain practically has to beg for press. If our candidates were seriously laying out our party's platform and doing it respectfully, seriously. It would be better for our party's image.

We want to claim we are the adults, and our Party should be in the majority to fix the problems created by one party GOP rule. Yet what is being shown?

I see Obama running a cleaner campaign. I am disappointed and troubled by the Clinton campaign. I worry about our party's image come November.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:02 PM
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19. If the Dem primary had been like it was before Hillary started to behave badly
yes ofcourse it is fair to let the election run but when one candidate is behaving so badly that it brings both of them down, then no.
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