You want me to make a pro Obama topic? Okay, I don't think Clinton can win.

[AGirl]

After looking at the recent trend in P.A, I have come to believe that Clinton will lose the nomination almost for sure.


I don't think Clinton can close the gap on the popular vote, this race is right, no one is going to make enough big margin to win the nomination without th support of superelegates. That also means Clinton will be most likely behind in the total delegate counts AND the popular vote on June 3.

I think Obama will win the nomination.

[DarienComp]

1. Only one person suggested that that other post might be better off in the LGBT forum...

Most of us were suggesting that it would be a welcome change for you to treat others with a modicum of the respect that you loudly demand for yourself.

[AGirl]

2. I respect those who respect me.

[polpilot]

5. That's novel in 2008 AND smart: Respect those who deserve respect.

Respect intelligent, informed opinions. One must work for respect and uninformed 'opinions' should be relegated to the trash bin.

[DarienComp]

14. Isn't it possible that one can respect you without agreeing with you?

[purji]

17. exactly

which is why i don't respect some one who's best come back is "FUCK YOU"

[AGirl]

26. I didn't say thats my best response but I am not apologizing for my feelings.

[DarienComp]

29. Your feelings are your own, and you have every right to them. Try apologizing for your behavior.

[AGirl]

33. I don't have to apologize for my behaviour.

[purji]

and I don't have to respect you.

[AGirl]

41. I didn't ask you to.

[DarienComp]

39. Of course you don't. But then don't expect people to listen to anything you have to say.

[AGirl]

43. As a transsexual, I learned to not expect anything from anyone. I fight for everything I have.

And I am ready to lose everything for no reasons.

[DarienComp]

44. Trying to shame me into excusing your piss-poor attitude won't work.

Because it's just as ugly on you as it is on a non-transsexual.

[AGirl]

45. I am not trying to shame you into anything, I don't give a shit what you feel.

or what you say, I am done with you. Bye.

You are offically on my ignore, congrats.

[DarienComp]

46. Well, good luck!

:toast:

[MethuenProgressive]

3. I agree. I think Obama's Swiftboating of the Clintons was too successful to bounce back from.

Voters are wising up to Obama's fairy tale. But it's probably too late for our Party to recover and nominate the good person, Hillary, instead of the good product, Obama.

[NJSecularist]

4. Obama has never swiftboated the Clintons. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

7. He apologized on Russert for doing it.

Try to keep up.

[beachmom]

8. Link? nt

[MethuenProgressive]

24. Good lord. Again? Here:

The Obama Camp's memo plotting to Swiftboat the Clintons:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/15/debate-transcript/

RUSSERT: In terms of accountability, Senator Obama, Senator Clinton on Sunday told me that the Obama campaign had been pushing this storyline. And, true enough, your press secretary in South Carolina — four pages of alleged comments made by the Clinton people about the issue of race.

In hindsight, do you regret pushing this story?

OBAMA: Well, not only in hindsight, but going forward. I think that, as Hillary said, our supporters, our staff get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say. And it is my responsibility to make sure that we’re setting a clear tone in our campaign, and I take that responsibility very seriously, which is why I spoke yesterday and sent a message in case people were not clear that what we want to do is make sure that we focus on the issues.

Now, there are going to be significant issues that we debate, and some serious differences that we have.

OBAMA: And I’m sure those will be on display today.

What I am absolutely convinced of is that everybody here is committed to racial equality — has been historically. And what I also expect is that I’m going to be judged as a candidate in terms of how I’m going to be improving the lives of the people in Nevada and the people all across the country, that they are going to ultimately be making judgments on can I deliver on good jobs at good wages; can I make sure that our home foreclosure crisis is adequately dealt with; are we going to be serious about retirement security; and are we going to have a foreign policy that makes us safe.

If I’m communicating that message, then I expect to be judged on that basis. And if I’m not, then I expect to be criticized on that basis. That’s the kind of campaign that we want to run and that we have run up until this point.

RUSSERT: Do you believe this is a deliberate attempt to marginalize you as the black candidate?

OBAMA: No.

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[VolcanoJen]

34. Nice phony made-up headline. The word "Swiftboat" does not appear...

... in either the Huff Post article or the debate transcript.

Do you think we can't read?

[DerekJ]

42. Nor is there an apology to begin with.

He is losing it.

[NYCGirl]

10. You have a link to that apology for swiftboating? NT

[DerekJ]

19. WTF?!!!!!

Link...

[beachmom]

6. It is an insult to John Kerry to characterize swiftboating happened.

I think the term swiftboating should be retired to history -- the boats who went through the Mekong Delta and something awful and sinister that happened to John Kerry in 2004.

[MethuenProgressive]

9. It's an insult to Democrats for Obama to Swiftboat the Clintons on race.

But, He gets a Pass.

[beachmom]

16. You just don't get it. Did Hillary serve in wartime and then have her service disparaged?

If not, she has not been swiftboated. The term is being overused. I haven't a clue what you are talking about in this campaign, but nothing has been done to Hillary like was done to John Kerry. Your use of the word is incorrect and inaccurate.

[DerekJ]

22. MethuenProgressive, Where is that link?

[MethuenProgressive]

48. See the Greatest Page. And thanks for the fish!

:yourock:

[DerekJ]

49. That link doesn't have anything to do with either apology, or swiftboating.

I am sure, you don't mean that one.

[boobooday]

28. Really? Has Obama formed an organization to prove the Clintons are racist?

Did he start an ad campaign about how racist they are? Did his surrogates establish a 527 "action committee?" An interview on 60 minutes? A documentary?

More than one Clinton surrogate has suggested that Obama is an affirmative action candidate, whose only qualification is race. What is that? Slowboating? Should this get a pass?

[NJSecularist]

12. Amen. The Clintonbots throw the word swiftboating out way too frequently. n/t

[ProSense]

11. What's

this?

[Road Scholar]

13. I think you got that backwards. Better check your figures.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5342131&mesg_id=5342131

[VolcanoJen]

15. Swiftboating? Ohferchrissakes.

That word is going to lose its meaning if people like you keep throwing it around every time your feel as though your candidate has been slighted somehow.

[DarienComp]

25. 'Ignored' is really causing a stir, huh...

:D

[merh]

32. every negative of hillary has been hillary's own doing

don't try to remove that speck from my eye until you remove that plank in your eye, something like that ...

[TheDonkey]

54. Obama "swiftboated" Clinton??? WTF do you know what "swiftboating" even is?

or have you just seen the words posted before and just thought you'd give it a try. I'd say that would be a better excuse than actually saying you believe that crap.

[dogday]

18. I don't either

I don't support either candidate and this is how I see things...

Obama is ahead and I believe he will win it.. Since he has not reached that magic number, the primary will be allowed to continue...

I believe that Clinton should be given the opportunity to finish, since she has invested so much time, energy, and money into her campaign....

[beachmom]

20. But when Obama meets the magic number -- 2024 -- then she should leave the race,

just like Huckabee did.

[dogday]

23. Absolutely, just as the rules provide, nothing less, nothing more...

:hi:

[AGirl]

38. magic number is 2025.

[JayFredMuggs]

40. At last a sincere post !

Such a breath of fresh air to see these kinds of posts on here!

Thanks!

[slinkerwink]

21. Even if Clinton wins by 10 points, she only picks up 12 additional delegates

which still isn't enough to overcome Obama's 169 lead in delegates.

[Bonobo]

30. Great, so now you can use your incisive wit to rip apart McCain, right?

And stop trying to shoot holes in OUR candidate (as in the Democratic Party's candidate).

Please, AGirl. 'Tis enuff already.

[JVS]

31. Wow, I've rec'ed a thread by AGirl. This is so strange.

[AGirl]

35. alright, i will do it more often, if thats what you want.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. No, I just want you to burn through your 3-post limit.

[raebrek]

47. I don' t know about this 3 post limit.

Maybe that is because I post so little that I haven't come across it? What is the 3 post limit?

Raebrek!!!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

50. Nobody is allowed to exceed three threads per day in GD:P.

But as far as other posting goes (non-OPs), there's no limit.

[raebrek]

51. Thanks N/T

[Blu Dahlia]

37. delusions of grandeur

:crazy:

[LiberalAndProud]

52. What did I miss?

Never mind. I just wanted to give you a :hug: . Clinton supporters on this board get swarmed and I admire you all for trying to stick up for yourselves.

:yourock:

[eridani]

53. Nothing wrong with being Senator for Life from NY, IMO n/t