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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:14 PM Original message |
If we used a winner-take-all instead of a proportional system Hillary would be ahead |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. But we don't and she's not -- |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Andf if we used such a system |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Exactly. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Very good point |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. and if |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. That's naughty. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. naughty AND funny - the best kind! |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. If we used a one household system, and my house was picked, I'd be ahead... |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. winner take all is not democratic. that's why the repubs do it. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. IF YOU DECIDED TO USE THE TEXAS PRIMARY NOT THE CAUCUSES AND NOT BOTH . . .IF ..IF |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The Model of Charity! |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. I always liked |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. And if we got rid of the electoral college, Bush would never have been President. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. this analysis is incorrect. Obama won Texas. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. It's incorrect because it tries to place blame for Hillary's failure on the system... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. It's not incorrect, because it's the popular vote that determines the delegates. |
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Sir Jeffrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. And both campaigns would have been run completely different... |
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malik flavors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. nm |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. and Obama would still have the lead with the popular vote |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
15. That article does a nice spin job, but they're wrong |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
16. So? We don't have winner take all system. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. Of course, you have to choose either primary vote or |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. But we don't. |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
19. The Electoral College system is undemocratic |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. makes sense because of 2 reasons |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. If cows could fly ... |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. You (or whoever) cannot say what would *BE* *IF* .. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. If the monkeys flying out of my butt were Catholic, I'd be the Pope. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. And? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
26. But we don't, and she isn't, so your post has no point. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
27. And if it was backwards day... |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. Hillary didn't win Texas. She won the primary, so if you were actually going to follow this |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. And If Cows Could Fly... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. GMTA (see #22 above) |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
30. If home plate was 40 feet away instead of 60... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Interesting how the system itself has a pretty significant role in this process." |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Well, I just never saw these numbers before |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
32. And if worms had shotguns, birds probably wouldn't fuck with them too much... |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. She would also be ahead if she started out with 1000 pledged delegates. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. If wishes were horses... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. And if we used a Clinton-take-all system, she'd be leading 2730-0.... |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
38. If a bullfrog had wings... |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. Hillary supporters are as bad as Hillary! Hillary isn't ahead because she ran... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Not an excuse - I like both our candidates |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I think it is an excuse. The Clintons keep monkeying with reality, trying... |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. * sigh * - Both candidates know what system is used... |
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kevinmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. If we never left Viet Nam McCain would still be a POW and not the GOP Nom…. |
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TomBall Democrat (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. And why do YOU think we don't have a winner take all |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. But we have a more fair proportional system. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. No, you cannot say that. It is inaccurate. Here is why |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
51. so? if pigs had wings they'd fly. But they DON'T. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. If we called ourselves the Democratic Leadership Council Party, we would have that. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. One party does use that system - it's called the Republican party. |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-06-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
54. If IF was a fifth, we'd throw a damn party!!! |
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