Who is more fanatic, Dean or Kucinich supporters?

[Dying Eagle]

Their has been a almost "movie star" or "pro athlete" infatuation with these two guys. I am not saying its a bad thing. I am just saying its more fanatic then it has been in years past. So who is more fanatic? I pick Kusinich people. Some of them are still convinced that DK will be the nominee.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. This thread is not going to turn out good ....

I think both candidates had very dedicated supporters..some that I could agree with..some that I disagreed with...we're in a very turbulent time right now and while I disagree with many people on the exact remedy....I can do it without calling them fanatical...even those that may be..for the record, I think all the candidates had SOME fanatical supporters.

[JI7]

6. i agree, this thread should be deleted

[AmyStrange]

40. Seems to have turned out ok so far NSMA...

(waving at NSMA)

some good answers and interesting insight. I'm glad no one listened to those who wanted it deleted.

Glad to see you're still hanging in there my friend,

d

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

42. Hey Dave

Yeah so far OK...and just so you know..I didn't want it deleted...I just didn't want it to cause any more animosity than is already present.

Thanks for the response..and right back at ya...good to see you hanging in there too!

[bluestateguy]

2. I think this is a divisive topic that won't accomplish anything helpful

This would have been a good topic...in January.

[DenverDem]

3. Which is more inflammatory and counterproductive,

Dean baiting or Kucinich baiting?

Why do you hate Kerry so much you are trying to sabotage support for him with this thread?

And, hell yes, I still think Dennis would be better for the country.

I will, however, continue to dutifully work for and will vote for Kerry, and yes, I have given him money more than once.

[Dying Eagle]

4. The point trying to be made is

that these two men have done something that has energized some to become fanatic about politics, not a easy task. I think we can learn something from them.

[DenverDem]

7. Don't try to weasle out now

you already started the forest fire.

[Dying Eagle]

12. you know

Half of my post always end up with me defending what i say to the point of exhaustion. this proves my theory. History will look back on these men and how they energized their base. I am just curious who everyone thinks about these two men. Ok next time I will word my post alittle better, but don't act like i am trying to start a war or something. not my style

[JI7]

16. i'm a Kerry supporter and i have had issues with supporters of dean and

kucinich. but i find this thread offensive. it's just like when supporters of other candidates insist that kerry has no support despite his winning. and in here you are calling them fanatics. why don't you just respond to the posts in other threads rather than create an entire new thread calling supporters of 2 candidates fanatics.

[DenverDem]

22. Sure, calling people fanatics is real complimentary

and could hardly be misconstrued.

Especially considering the boiling enmity Kerryites around here have built by their arrogant demands that we all bow down to JFK like the mindless freepers do to their demigods.

[JI7]

9. so take it up inside the thread you take issue with

creaing a thread calling supporters of candidates fanatics doesn't help anyone. and "fanatic" is not a compliment.

[Dying Eagle]

15. I would have called myself a Kerry fanatic

I was on board with him in Oct. I was just as "passionate" for Kerry as Dean and Kusinich people were for them. It just seamed like their numbers were greater then most candidates that i can remember.

[JI7]

17. actually there are more Clark supporters than Kucinich supporters

on here.

[Dying Eagle]

19. your right

I would add Clark to this.

and to make hopefully my last point on this topic. This isn't just a DU thing. Everywhere i went i ran into this. People have been more "passionate" this election cycle then i have ever seen in my life.

[Lefty Pragmatist]

5. Lieberman supporters.

I've never seen fanatics so...







nah, screw it.

[madfloridian]

8. Actually that is a good question.

Do you know why it is leaning more toward "fanatic" than disinterested? Do you really want to know?

It is because our country is about to be in deep financial trouble...and we are already in deep moral trouble.

Do you know why? It is because we have sat back like fools for years, all afraid to speak up. I am proud to be a fanatic for Dean, and I like Kucinich as well. I don't have to agree with him on everything, but Dean says things that are real."

Call me a fanatic, and it makes me proud. We need a hell of a lot more of us to get this country back from the extremists!

[DebJ]

10. Yep. Sam Adams was a fanatic too.

[foo_bar]

11. deep moral trouble?

Is Dean writing a Dianetics?

[Lefty Pragmatist]

14. If only he were a dentist

he could get us out of our deep molar trouble.

[madfloridian]

31. You think our country is acting morally right now?

I am surprised. You really think we are ok as a country?

[madfloridian]

28. I guess I don't get the "molar" comparison or sarcasm. Nor do I care to.

If you think our country is acting in a moral way right now, then I feel sick.

I hope I misunderstood, but by now I don't care. I have been made fun of here for wanting our politicians to speak out. Heck, I don't even know what half of them stand for.

Make fun, go ahead. It just does not matter anymore.

[mzmolly]

33. Hey MF, I love your take on this. And, thats a great bumper sticker

where can I get one?! :hi:

[madfloridian]

34. Thanks, but I don't get the "molar" joke, do you?

Oh, well, who cares.

Why don't you just right click on it and save it to your computer? I don't remember where I got it.

:hi:

[mzmolly]

37. Nope, I don't get it either.

:shrug:

I saved the sticker, it looks like a photo bucket account? I'll just keep searching. ;)

[madfloridian]

38. Here is how.

Right click it, choose Save Picture As, and then save it to My Pictures. It should be right there. Then you can upload it through a site like Photobucket or others. Try it.

[salinen]

13. I admire both men.

And I'm not trying to be a healer.

[mzmolly]

18. I dont like the 'fanatic' description. How bout passionate.

;)

[Dying Eagle]

20. yeah

check my last posts, I changed it for the PC crowd. I never thought being fanatic was a negative, Oh well.....

[TSIAS]

21. None of the above

First, I see very few Kucinich people who envision him winning the nomination. The majority have accepted and will support Kerry.

Same with Dean. From my experiences, Dean supporters were average, everyday Democrats. Meetups weren't filled with a bunch of "Naderite Greens", as some at DU might insinuate.

I can think of another candidate who had very committed supporters at this site. Nothing wrong with that, but it's unfair to single out Dean and Kucinich supporters.

[JI7]

25. agree

it's the same few who seem to think there will be a brokered convention and someone other than kerry will get the nomination. and most do support kerry now. especially if you look outside of du and scientific polls.

[Dying Eagle]

27. Thank you

for understanding the idea of this thread

I agree, they just seamed like the two candidates that really stuck out in my mind from the primary.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

23. In a perfect world, I would have hidden this thread as soon as I saw it.

[Dying Eagle]

24. I am sure

there are some monitor jobs open..

[Feanorcurufinwe]

26. What's a monitor job?

I am simply bitching that the 'Hide Threads' feature is unavailable for my personal use. What are you talking about?

[Dying Eagle]

29. ahhh

I thought you wanted to lock it, i am starting to wish i could lock it. I guess i am not a good writer and everyone mis-understood this post. oh well

[Feanorcurufinwe]

30. If you alert it yourself and ask the mods to lock it, they might.

They've done that for me sometimes when I've posted flamebait. Or if you are in the time limit you could just edit the initial post...

[Dying Eagle]

32. Ahh

The hell with it, what is everyone going to do, take away my birthday. Let everyone take this the wrong way, fuck it, i'm going to bed :P

[jsw_81]

35. Many of the Kucinich people are beyond delusional

Just this morning one of them was asking who his running mate should be. :crazy:

[LWolf]

36. I'm pretty passionate.

I don't know about fanatic or infatuated; those aren't positive words. I'm not now, and was never convinced that my guy would be the nominee. But I support him anyway. Here's why:

I'm 44 years old. I've been an independent, a "decline to state" voter all of my voting years, until January of 2003. It's a trust issue. While I usually voted dem, occasionally 3rd party, never republican, I just didn't feel that there was a party that spoke for me, or that worked towards the direction I thought we should be heading. Not that I didn't appreciate all of the positive contributions of democrats; it's a trust issue. I never trusted anyone I voted for to follow through on their campaign promises, or to put people before power.

I've never even especially liked a politician I voted for before, let alone trusted. I've never believed that they were honest about who they were or what the underlying agenda was. My votes have always been for the lesser of two choices I didn't particularly care for.

I became a democrat in order to have a voice in the primaries; a first for me. Because I knew I would be voting against GWB. I thought I'd like to have a voice/vote, and participate, in selecting who I'd be voting for, rather than letting everyone else choose the candidate for me. So I started looking at the very large field. I was intrigued by and interested in Howard Dean. Not much interested in the rest of the field. I didn't dislike them; they just didn't spark any interest or hope, either. Until I got to Dennis Kucinich. I blinked, looked again, and pinched myself. I started looking further, convinced that he couldn't be real. And the further I looked, the more shocked I became, because he really is the person he presents to the world.

It took 6 months of reading his speeches and press releases, watching him on tv, etc., for me to be convinced that he was the real deal. So I went to meet him. And never looked back. He had a quality in person that is hard to describe, but unforgettable. Humility, care, compassion, respect, passion, integrity, intelligence, courage, humor...it all just permeated his stance and his words. He listened so intently to anyone who had something to say. He responded so genuinely and respectfully, even to those who disagreed with him or who came to disrupt his event, like one LaRouche supporter. I realized that, aside from the politician, here was a worthy man. As a politician, he is totally unique. As the year progressed, I learned that he is steadfast in his commitment. That he doesn't waver, and has the courage to speak out on the hard, risky issues when no one else does.

I don't know about fanatic or infatuated. He has my support whenever he needs it, because he's earned it. And because I think he's good for America, in whatever capacity he serves.

[eridani]

39. You've pretty much described me also--

--except it didn't take 6 months. I was one of the 20,000 to email him after the Prayer for America speech asking him to run for president.

And the DK bumpersticker stays on the car until July.

[TLDHOME99]

41. Clark supporters of course

We have more reason to be, we are so excited at the prospect of a really good man (finally) on the ballot. We want to be proud to vote again instead of saying, "I picked the lesser of two evils."

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[newsguyatl]

43. clark supporters, hands down.

[jonnyblitz]

44. kerry supporters are the worst by far. No others compare. n/t

[MessiahRp]

45. Locking

Even though the intention wasn't meant to be such, the post was worded in a flamebait way, and thus I am locking the thread to avoid a flamewar on the board.