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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 02:52 PM
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Did Kerry say he'd kill Apache program?
There is a rumor going around the VRWC that Kerry has said that if he's elected that the Apache helicopter program will get axed.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

It is being used as ammo with employees in certain industries.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:01 PM
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1. It should be
Heck, the things only fly 45% of the time, they're crap.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:02 PM
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2. That was also a point made by a Buch campaign ad
Can't imagine it's true, probably something to do with a funding vote where the Apache was attached... :shrug:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:04 PM
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3. From Dickless Cheney at Reagan Library, 3/17/04
"On national security, the Senator has shown at least one measure of consistency. Over the years, he has repeatedly voted against weapons systems for the military. He voted against the Apache helicopter, against the Tomahawk cruise missile, against even the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. He has also been a reliable vote against military pay increases - opposing them no fewer than 12 times.

Many of these very weapons systems have been used by our forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, and are proving to be valuable assets in the war on terror. In his defense, of course, Senator Kerry has questioned whether the war on terror is really a war at all. Recently he said, and I quote, "I don't want to use that terminology." In his view, opposing terrorism is far less of a military operation and far more of an intelligence-gathering, law enforcement operation. As we have seen, however, that approach was tried before, and proved entirely inadequate to protecting the American people from the terrorists who are quite certain they are at war with us - and are comfortable using that terminology."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/03/20040317-3.html



Terry McAulliffe's response, 4/26/04

"You remember Dick Cheney. When John Kerry was risking his life for his country in Vietnam, Dick Cheney was getting deferments because, in his words, he had "other priorities than military service." And he feels qualified to tell us that John Kerry won't do whatever it takes to defend America?

"Finally, with the latest set of misleading attack ads beginning today, I hope you'll remember this about Vice President Dick Cheney:

"When he was Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney consistently proposed massive cuts to weapons programs that our troops are using right now in Iraq.

"In fact, Dick Cheney tried to kill over 81 weapons programs, and tried to gut the Army's M-1 tank, the B-2 bomber program, the AH-64 Apache Helicopters, and the F-16 aircrafts.

"He called for the closure of 72 domestic military installations, and the reduction of 500,000 active-duty military personnel and 200,000 reservists. Time and time again, he has voted to cut funding for the Veterans Administration, forcing our Veterans to fight for the health care and benefits they earned and were promised by this Administration.

"Our friends at the Republican National Committee have not been shy about telling us that the weapons systems I just mentioned were crucial to Operation Iraqi Freedom. Yet, as Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney wanted them cut. John Kerry stood tall against no-bid contracts for Halliburton - Dick Cheney cut funding for weapons programs CRUCIAL to our troops' success in Iraq today.
http://www.democrats.org/news/200404260001.html

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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:22 PM
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4. Thanks for the link
From the research I've done so far, it looks like Kerry voted against some funding bills that the Apache was included in, but not specifically against the Apache itself.

The rumour is a definite distortion. I can't find anywhere where Kerry specifically SUPPORTS the program. The Apache is built here in AZ, and it would be a definite negative if it continues to spread that Kerry intends to cut the program. That would have an impact of thousands of jobs here.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:41 PM
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5. No problem...that campaign the repukes are running
whether they're going positive or negative is 100% distortion.
:toast:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:54 PM
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6. No kidding
I'm going to spread the word on this evil distortion.

If Kerry could carry AZ in November I would be SOOOO happy!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:04 PM
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7. And I'll be happy with you!
:toast:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:06 PM
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:19 PM
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9. Not sure that was the link you intended
It seems to be some bogus story about WMDs
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:23 PM
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11. Freepers...the place is crawling with 'em today.
They didn't know only the rich ones got invited to the funeral. Left a horde of 'em with time on their hands.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:20 PM
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10. Shouldn't you be at a funeral somewhere?
See you around.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:23 PM
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12. I think I see a tombstone in his/her future!
;-)
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:17 PM
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13. Saaaay! You're good at this!
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:37 PM
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14. The crystal ball shows me....
That in 2005 after Kerry's landslide win, Career Prole is offered the job of Secretary of the Treasury, wins tickets to the World Series and witnesses the defeat of the New York Yankees at the hands of the Boston Red Sox.....
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:09 PM
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15. I got my face all scuffed up like Boosh on a bike
'cuz I fainted just now. :D
I'll see to it they print your picture on the ten dollar bill!
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:18 PM
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16. he he!
Here's to victory!
:toast:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:20 PM
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17. I've been drinking to that for a couple of months now
but what the hell!
:toast:
Thanks for the diversion!
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