Clinton Slams Obama Again: Reminisces About Hunting as a Girl

[Scurrilous]

<snip>

"ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton continued her critique of Sen. Barack Obama's comments about small town America today, and used it to connect herself with the voters her opponent may have alienated.

Speaking about how Americans value their Second Amendment rights and enjoy hunting prompted Clinton to tell a story about her own hunting experience.

"You know my dad took me out behind the cottage my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl," she said. "You know some people have continued to teach their children and their grandchildren. It's part of culture, it's part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it's part of who they are. not because they are bitter"

Clinton also repeated some of her earlier lines, saying that she thought Obama's was "kind of elitist." Clinton repeated lines about faith -- and the way she views faith playing a role in society.

"My faith is the faith of my parents and my grandparents," she said. "It's a fundamental expression of who we are and what we believe in most profoundly and I disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in our country cling to guns and have certain attitudes about immigration and trade simply out of frustration."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/clinton-slams-o.html

[anonymous171]

1. Holy shit! She's fucking insane! WTF!?

She's making it extremely hard to see her as the nominee.

[Yael]

9. He's the elitist, says the $109mm gal

[dorktv]

118. Because we all know the Clintons have been vastly wealthy all of their lives.

[2rth2pwr]

10. Because she hunted and goes to church?

[anonymous171]

14. Because she's totally lying out of her ass.

[2rth2pwr]

19. You know that how?

[Liberal Veteran]

50. Well, her lips were moving which is the usual indication.

[2rth2pwr]

55. LOL! I walked into that one.

[dkf]

71. lololol.

Damn you made me laugh!

[rodeodance]

84. cause you say so? You always say that.

[joshcryer]

92. She's insane for saying her father responsibly showed her how guns work?

*This* is insane. This whole fucking thread is psychotic commentary about something that *never happened*!

[Kittycat]

2. Didn't she lobby for major gun control?

Who the fuck does she think she's kidding? American's are waking up, we've been lied to quite enough by Bushco, and don't need more Clinton lies.

[EFerrari]

138. Yes, she did. And there's plenty of time before the vote

to plaster her voting record all over the place. SniperGate II.

[gaiilonfong]

3. SHE HUNTED????

LMAO....this woman is such a LIAR......she should switch to the ReTHUGlican Party already........I can't wait till she and her megalomaniac husband are run out of the democratic Party......AND....I will celebrate when she loses her Senate seat!

[VolcanoJen]

15. She likely misspoke about hunting

:rofl:

Hillary, slayin' bear. That's hysterical! :rofl:

[Inuca]

22. Probably varmint n/t

[Yael]

26. Or tin cans on fence posts...

[joshcryer]

79. Or perhaps you just read the headline and didn't read the article?

She never said she went hunting.

[TahitiNut]

98. Find out for sure. Send her out with Cheney.

:evilgrin: Three possibilities ... and two of them are GOOOOD.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

114. Here here, smartest comment all day

thank you! Standing applause.

[rodeodance]

109. you can't read--she said taught how to shoot. she did not say she wenting hunting

[knixphan]

125. I smell some cartoons on the horizon

[Gidney N Cloyd]

46. Switching to repub for 2012 could be a backup plan... nt

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[derby378]

4. Okay, so when does Hillary purchase an M4 in 6.8 SPC?

Go ahead, Hillary. I'll wait.

[tishaLA]

5. OK, she just overreached

It's one thing for Sen Clinton to play the "bitter" mishegoss for all it's worth, but then to turn it into a story about her youthful hunting adventures will undoubtedly strain her story to the very limits of credulity. She thinks it will provide her with authenticity, no doubt, but it will do just the opposite: it will remind people of her overreaching on Bosnia, on N Ireland, etc.

People remember Mittens' stories about hunting. I predict a similar response to Sen Clinton's.

[hedgehog]

6. So THAT'S why she was sent to Bosnia - obviously she laid down

covering fire so Sinbad could get off the plane!

[KittyWampus]

60. OMG! Where's that Youtube of Hillary in Bosnia.... returning fire... hilarious... must find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RVXc

[TahitiNut]

101. She must've carried her piece in her bookbag.

:silly:

[Yael]

7. People enjoy shooting because thats who they are, not because they are bitter?

Was there no way to weave in something like "not because muslim names bother them" or "not because they dislike unpatriotic candidates" or some other completely disconnected concept?

Did she leave her brain in her bookbag today?

[2rth2pwr]

17. Disconnected?

"It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,"

[Yael]

23. Yes -- disconnected.

Not unlike the Xerox and pillow "jokes". Prolly looked real good on paper. Delivery gets a D- though.

[TLM]

37. You can;t even quote a whole sentence...

that should tell you something about the validity of your spin.

[2rth2pwr]

41. Is this better? Doesn't change the meaning.

"It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.

[joshcryer]

93. Face it, Obama said people "cling to guns" because they're bitter.

[gmudem]

130. As a political issue

Obviously. I don't think he meant that people literally cling to guns. I imagine that would be hard to do. What Obama said is what many liberals have said for a long time, that Republicans make social issues more important than actual things and end up hurting themselves by voting for Republicans instead of Democrats.

Do you really think he is wrong or are you just desperately trying to smear Obama who is going to be the candidate anyway?

[BlooInBloo]

8. Sounds like her "jump the shark" moment.

[MidwestTransplant]

11. Probably went huntin' for varmit with ol Mitt Romney

[rodeodance]

87. you should learn to read. OP says she was taught how to shoot--never said she went hunting

[joshcryer]

96. It's increasingly hard for me to understand the pathology of these people.

I mean my god. You'd think even if you were anonymous on the internet you'd still attempt to keep integrity in your fucking screennames.

[Inuca]

12. "My faith is the faith of my parents and my grandparents,"

as opposed to... Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I see this statement in the same vein as the infamous "as far as I know".

I tried in several posts, but I just CANNOT express how disgusted her statements today make me feel. Sickening, and I do not mean that as flame bait, nor metaphorically, not anything. It just makes me feel sick and disgusted.

[tishaLA]

18. That's how I read it too

My Christianity has a long history--why, it's been handed down for generations--unlike *someone* who just chose to be Christian, maybe, 20 years ago, and even then in a church I wouldn't have worshiped in.

[Diane R]

127. This post deserves it's own thread. I never thought how insulting her comment was to Obama.

[babylonsister]

13. She's officially spinning like a top. How long will it be before someone

unearths the real truth? I heard her actually try to claim short residence in Indiana today. What does that make? IL, AR, NY, PA, and now IN? That gal gets around! :eyes:

[Yael]

20. Did she spend a weekend at a Hilton or something?

[babylonsister]

27. Close; she went to her prom there iirc. nt

[merh]

25. Can you see the SNL skit now

maybe it will be Hill and Cheney duck hunting, that would be the easiest to put together at this late hour before show time.

[babylonsister]

29. **snort** I'd love to see that!

:rofl:

[merh]

34. Remember Kerry and the new hunting jacket

how that was used to humiliate him or make him a liar - he went hunting - was supposed to be a hunter, but he bought a new hunting jacket, he didn't have one of his own.

She just keeps dropping turds, she doesn't realize each of these piles she leaves behind smell to high heaven and even if she got the nomination, the RNC would smear these turds all over her campaign with great joy.

She is pathetic and she has some god awful advisers. Is Terry M. still on her team? I swear to god, he is the RNC operative.

[babylonsister]

38. She is pathetic, but

now she's just making me more angry. How can we respect her if she won't go away? If she stays, how can we respect her? :shrug:

She should be running on her own merits and dissing McCain. But it's no longer about that; it's to besmirch Obama at any and all costs.

[merh]

61. When Bill wrote in his memoirs that

he had the relations with Monica "because he could" it was the most honest and telling thing he ever said or ever would say. He was never concerned about the party, he was never concerned about the office, he just did what he did because he could and because he wanted it.

Nothing they have done has surprised me and that saddens me the most.

[BearSquirrel2]

51. Politicians need to get real ...

I think that hunters can see who is the gucci hunters and who is not. So if you don't hunt, it's best to say that you do not hunt but you've got nothing against it. More deer for them!!!!

Playing can only get you in trouble ala Kerry and ala Dukakis in the tank. BE YOURSELF!!!

[merh]

64. You are so right.

And you can't continue to remake yourself during a campaign and expect people to trust you.

[karynnj]

112. Kerry actually is a hunter

It was not play acting. It is one thing I dislike about Kerry - but it is true.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

72. It's like the biggest "Where's Waldo?" ever.

[myrna minx]

91. LOL...Two Bad Neighbors

Homer and Bart peek out in between the venetian blind slats across the
street.

Bart: Wow, a former president living right across the street.

Homer: Oh, why did he have to move in on my territory? Look at him.
Thinks just because he led the free world, he can act like a big
shot! Stupid President...why couldn't he just stay in his own
state?

Lisa: Actually, this *is* one of the nine states where Mr. Bush claims
residency, Dad. I wouldn't have voted for him, but it's nice to
have a celebrity in the neighborhood.

Homer: Wait a minute...if Lisa didn't vote for him...and *I* didn't
vote for him --

Marge: You didn't vote for anybody.

Homer: I voted for Prell to go back to the old glass bottle. After
that, I became deeply cynical.

-- A rare glimpse of Homer, member of the electorate, "Two Bad
Neighbors"

[joshcryer]

94. Given that this thread is full of untruths I find it dubious anyone here will be able to find it.

I mean seriously. You people are pathological.

[tabasco]

16. Did Gramps teach her how to take out a sniper's nest?

[samdogmom]

21. Ring a bell?

Kerry tried the same thing.

There were several published pictures of him hunting. How did this work for him?

[Inuca]

33. Much as I like Kerry

I was not a fan of that hunting picture. OTOH if Hillary tries the same thing (please Hillary, do it!), I may frame the picture, I am sure she would look awesome and quite a natural in a camouflage pant suit.

[samdogmom]

36. LOL!

The camouflage pant suit reference is classic! Thanks!

[Inuca]

63. I modestly bow my head :-) n/t

[babylonsister]

40. Wasn't she wearing one of them while ducking snipers' bullets? nt

[samdogmom]

48. You know I think I saw that photo on the "internets"!

A DU poster has a great photoshopped picture of her in complete camouflage gear kissing the little girl in Bosnia on the tarmac.

[DefenseLawyer]

24. Too bad Yosemite Sam isn't a superdelegate

Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate to blast them varmints to smithereens!

[Yael]

28. He isn't?

I am surprised Ickes wasn't able to get him on the list.

[kid a]

30. beware the anecdote starting with , "You know..." - beep beep beep

[Renaissance Man]

31. Yeah

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Hillary

Yeah, right!

[tularetom]

32. Don't you love it when people who wouldn't know how to load a gun

pretend to be John fucking Wayne? Remember Mittens Romney and his memories of shootin varmits? He was quickly exposed as a phoney. Now Hillary is tryin to make us believe that instead of the bookish introvert she appeared to be as a child that she was really Annie Oakley.

I think I'd vote for the first politician who admitted he didn't know which end of a gun the bullet came out of.

[CatsDogsBabies]

35. Did Obama say anything about hunting?

[hedgehog]

42. He's been pretty consistent with a message that we have to find a way to accommodate

hunters while keeping guns of the streets of our cities.

[CatsDogsBabies]

53. But did he say anything about hunting and bitterness?

People are making it sound like he criticized people for hunting, and I didn't see this at all in the comments he made.

[hedgehog]

67. The quote is shorthand to a statement that when people believe that

politics has no effect on their economic status, they will vote based on peripheral issues such as gun laws. I.E., if no politician will bring jobs to my community, I might as well vote for the one who won't take away my guns.

[derby378]

39. I finally get Hillary Clinton, after all these years...

Hillary was for guns BEFORE she voted against them!

[AllentownJake]

43. This is why

We are still ahead in all honesty. She says stupid shit like that and people go huh?

[nancyr]

44. She's pathetic.

Can't anyone please tell her to stop babbling?

[BearSquirrel2]

45. Does this mean ...

Does this mean we'll get to see Hillary all dolled up in Gucci hunting gear and a shotgun??? That would be worth the price of admission!!!

[Liberal Veteran]

47. So her answer to being the "victim of sexism" is to prove how butch she is?

:shrug:

[ima_sinnic]

58. my thoughts exactly--first it was "Rocky," now it's John Wayne

she apparently has no feminine side, or thinks it will win her votes to show that--as with everything else about her, she simply poses the way she thinks will win her votes, not in any authentic way.

If I'm going to vote for a woman simply because she's a woman, I don't want someone who acts like a man--whatever happened to feminism--you know, pride in womanness. what the *#( is this rambo crap?

[joshcryer]

82. Are you seriously writing such homophobic statements?

Seriously?

[Liberal Veteran]

88. I so don't think you want to presume to lecture me on what constitutes homophobia.

I'm sure you and I both know that the usage of the term butch is not an uncommon word used in the gay community to describe someone hamming up the masculinity for show.

So save the fauxrage for the important stuff.

[joshcryer]

89. Please, it was homophobic to the core and you know it.

It's not even based in any reality as she never once said she "went hunting." The pathology of people in this thread is *alarming*.

[Liberal Veteran]

97. Are you really going to acuse a gay guy of homophobia?

You forget yourself.

[TahitiNut]

108. The recently freed spirit of Charleton Heston inhabited Hillary's skull ...

... since it found enough unused space in there to be comfortable ... and it brought along some of its memories. Pretty soon we'll hear about Hillary parting the Red Sea and winning chariot races.

:shrug:

[milkyway]

49. If she knew how to shoot, why didn't she grab a gun and fire back at those snipers?

[nsd]

52. More than anything Clinton's response reminds of what she did when ...

John Kerry got slammed for his "stuck in Iraq" comment a couple of years ago. Kerry flubbed a line that he had used several times before. It was meant as a jab at Bush, but the way he said it that one time made it seem like a jab at the troops. Fair-minded people knew that he had just messed up. The Repukes and the MSM -- of course -- ignored the context and jumped at the chance to trash him. Most Democrats, including ones thinking about running for president in 2008, held their fire. But not Clinton: she saw a chance to knife a potential rival and, fairness be damned, she took it.

I was disappointed in her back then, but not this time. My opinion of both Clintons has fallen so low that nothing that selfish pair does surprises or disillusions me anymore. I have no more illusions about them.

[babylonsister]

54. Yep. She needed Kerry not to run again, and she had the

opportunity to do him harm. She did.

[Inuca]

66. I was thinking of the same thing the whole day

Backstabbing Kerry was the dress rehearsal, now she has a Broadway hit.

[karynnj]

113. She showed her true colors there

She could have specifically said that he misspoke and that was a problem - but she was willing to join the Republicans and say that a man who defended the troops - more than she and Bill together did - had attacked them.

I think it says something that Kerry was not out there, as one who experienced sniper fire, attacking her on her Bosnia fantasy. Also - here is what Kerry said when Bill Clinton's patriotism was challenged in 1992. Read this and you see someone who cares deeply about the people hurt by a divisive war, not someone who would use it for politics. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5197294

[Diane R]

131. I'm glad when others remember that...it's the day I realized I would NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton.

[nebula]

56. Is Hillary the the 2nd Coming?

Jesus walked on water, Hillary dodges sniper bullets!

[madrchsod]

57. hillary's "lake wobegon" moment.....

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

59. What's next? Is she going to don her cami's and crush a beer can on her head?

[Diane R]

132. You didn't see the photos of her raising a stein of beer over her head today?

[C_U_L8R]

62. Hillary is a total friggin' joke

Thank goodness she is losing so badly. Thank goodness.

[undeterred]

65. Girls from Park Ridge IL don't hunt

as a general rule. Not that Hillary obeys general rules or anything.

[joshcryer]

95. I'm sure she wasn't the least bit interested in hunting. The article mentions it nowhere.

But such facts are lost on people in this convoluted thread.

[undeterred]

103. Maybe there was a Hunting Barbie doll and I missed it.

[ecstatic]

106. dayum. How many different states is she claiming now?

:crazy: IL... NY... PA...

[rodeodance]

115. maybe you can not read-or comprehend. Re-read the OP--nothing was said about hunting.

[undeterred]

137. I read the headline. You should take a few days off.

This place is making you really nasty.

[stillcool]

68. Jeebus...

Next we'll see Hillary doing the Charlton Heston line..

[Ewellian]

69. I don't see where Hillary said

she hunted. The link says she said her father taught her to shoot. My brother taught me to shoot when I was a teenager but I never went hunting.

[Ewellian]

70. but don't let that interrupt

all the sneering, mocking disgust. Carry on.

[joshcryer]

77. Yeah, what a joke. These people are pathological. People who have guns show their children...

...how to handle them. It's only the *responsible* thing to do. I have no reason to disbelieve this story.

[Diane R]

134. Here's the link....she claims to have hunted ducks:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/#more-6395

'"As I told you, my dad taught me how to shoot behind our cottage,” she said. “I have gone hunting. I am not a hunter. But I have gone hunting."

Clinton said she has hunted ducks.'

[dkf]

73. OMG she's turning into a parody.

Does anyone else out there feel sorry for her?

This is so pathetic its sad.

[bklyncowgirl]

74. Did she go gunnin' for varmints with Mitt Romney

Talk about your pandering.

Sadly,for many people it might work.

[PerfectSage]

75. Now she's huntin' fer lobbyists on K Street to fund her campaign.

[joshcryer]

76. Where does it say she actually hunted?

[kwenu]

80. Carter/Gore PLEASE take her away!!!

[joshcryer]

81. For something she never said?

:shrug:

[kwenu]

83. For continuous and unending damage to the Demoratic Party and its chances of victory in November.

[joshcryer]

90. Then I suggest the SDs take her out of the race rather than considering her a contender.

But since they don't I will presume that she is still a contender.

[kwenu]

102. Perhaps if you lighten up on the weed a bit you'll quit thinking in circles.

[DearAbby]

85. lol...yeah this should be good....

Hillary goes Hunting...

Shoots Bill in the ass...later reported, the ass apologized for getting in between her and her prey.

[rodeodance]

86. Good on Hillary.

[TahitiNut]

111. Yup. Rambo, Rocky, and Little Annie Oakley all rolled up into one.

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

120. none of them would say demeaning thinks about voters in PA

[jazzjunkysue]

99. "my dad took me out behind the cottage"

Well, that explains alot, don't it?

[dorktv]

119. Did you just claim her father either abused her or did something bad to her when

she was a child?

[Blondiegrrl]

100. I predict this will backfire on her. (It kinda is already.) She's starting to sound

like a broken record. All it serves is to illustrate how petty she is.

[Larkspur]

104. My dad never taught my brothers how to shoot a gun

My dad, the son of Irish immigrants and a chemical engineer, didn't know how to shoot a gun himself either. My mother, a daughter of Lithuanian immigrants, never learned how to shoot either. Her family had no reason to own a gun. Shooting guns is not part of every American's culture.

[ecstatic]

105. Another pathetic goddamned lie that can't be fact checked/ YouTubed

Gosh. My evening went so well. Now I have to go to bed angry with Clinton. Why the f*ck did I log in?! LOL.

[rodeodance]

107. Suh hate will give you an ulcer soon.

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105. Another pathetic goddamned lie that can't be fact checked/ YouTubed

Gosh. My evening went so well. Now I have to go to bed angry with Clinton. Why the f*ck did I log in?! LOL.

[JimGinPA]

110. The True Story...

She was Snipe hunting with a paper bag and a stick.

[rodeodance]

116. Title of article is MIS_leading. says nothing about hillary hunting-only learning how to shot.

[Eurobabe]

117. I heard she was hunting varmits with Mittens. n/t

[Major Hogwash]

Some reporter somewhere has to ask Hillary the last time she went hunting.

I'm serious. This is just beyond the limits of the Twilight Zone.

I want to hear about her gun collection, too.

LoL

[Major Hogwash]

121. Maybe she could make an ad of her standing by all of her trophies.

It's just too much.

LoL

[Justitia]

122. So why didn't GI Jane just whip her pistol out and take down those snipers in Bosnia??? -eom

[Catherina]

124. She did. Watch very closely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RVXc

[Justitia]

128. ROFL! That was hysterical - thanks! Guess she's a sharpshooter after all!

:rofl:

[Catherina]

123. Next scene? Landing on the USS Lincoln declaring an end to major Iraq combat operations

under sniper fire too.

[americanstranger]

126. Here's a visual aid.

- as

[krawhitham]

129. This is the 1st time my mother is starting to think Hillary is not the right choice

She has been 1000% behind Hillary, but this is starting to turn her off. She says she has been bitter since Reaganomics and it is Hillary that is out of touch with the people

[Popol Vuh]

133. LOL.. Is Hillary Dreaming She's Lara Croft Again?

[Citizen Kang]

135. Hillary is all things to all people

she will say and do anything. She will tell people only what they want to hear, then turn around and do the exact opposite. I can't wait for that kind of politician to be pushed aside.

[NJmaverick]

136. There's more to her story

"You know my dad took me out behind the cottage my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl," "then disaster struck! We were ambushed by armed ducks. These snipers were all around us. All we could do is duck our heads and run for the cars! It was a truly scary and dangerous momement"