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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:46 PM
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Sexism in the Primaries (Please don't harass this woman for expressing her opinion.)

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=291138

Published on Sunday, April 13, 2008


Sexism in the primaries

By Deborah Atkinson
Fayetteville


Since our election primaries began, I have become increasingly concerned over the media’s reaction toward Hillary Clinton. Rather than honor their duty to report accurately apart from any personal prejudices and biases, the media have frequently lost their ability to objectively report on the Democratic debates.

Why?

As a clinical psychologist, I look to the psychiatrist Carl Jung, who said in the years following the Holocaust that people should not fear looking at the unconscious, but instead be fearful of failing to do so. The unconscious refers to behaviors, feelings or thoughts that are outside an individual’s awareness or outside the awareness of groups and societies. This is important because the unconscious can be a powerful force when it involves toxic conflict and emotions such as fear, anger or envy, especially because these emotions can be accompanied by behavior that harms others.

As a psychotherapist, never have I been so convinced that we need to heed Jung’s warning.

I believe the media’s reaction is a reflection of the widespread sexism that simmers within our society. And even though Americans want to think of themselves as enlightened, I believe we are not.

Simply put, sexism is discrimination against women. Sexism is attitudes, conditions or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.

It happens when the news media dissect Sen. Clinton’s every gesture, comment and mood. For example, journalists trade comments on her likability — is she unemotional (“cold”) or too emotional? They talk about the unacceptability of her laugh (“cackle”) or the tone of her voice (“shrill”). Yet, these same journalists overlook the physical aspects of the male candidates. For example, no one ever comments on Sen. Obama’s widely placed ears or how he cocks his chin up in an arrogant sort of way when he talks. They never mention that one side of McCain’s face is larger than the other or that he must read his favorite quote by George Washington from a card because he can’t remember it. No, that would be cruel.

Embedded bias
Sexism can also be embedded in what is not said. It happened during the early debates, when Clinton was ignored by the facilitators while Obama and Edwards tripped over themselves to support each other. The news commentators never addressed these dynamics or the Obama and Edwards alliance that left Clinton out of the discussion.

Sexism happened again t recently during NPR’s interview of Sen. Clinton. The commentator asked Clinton how she reacted to the cable news and others’ pronouncement that “She has no way to win unless she wins ugly.” Clinton reacted by pointing out that the question itself was a double standard. She said Obama could be asked the very same question, as he was in the same situation, but only she was asked.

Some may argue that media coverage has been more aggressive and more detailed simply because of Sen. Clinton’s past high-profile history. However, even during Bill Clinton’s presidency, Hillary was mistreated. Donnie Radcliffe’s book, “Hillary Rodham Clinton: A First Lady for Our Time,” addresses the media’s dislike of Hillary in the chapter, “They Shoot Candidates’ Wives, Don’t They?” The chapter addresses the media’s reaction when Hillary did not fit the stereotype for a first lady. And remember John McCain’s cruel joke at a 1998 Washington GOP fundraiser: “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.” Have we forgotten the field day the media had with that?

Others would argue that Bill Clinton’s high-profile role in the campaign is an excuse for the media’s behavior. However, why is it acceptable for Obama’s wife to actively campaign for her husband, but not acceptable for former President Clinton to support his wife? And why would his involvement ever provide justification for cruelty from the media?

Jung gives us a way to understand how we can be so unaware of the actions of ourselves and of others. He used the term the “shadow” to explain how difficult it can be to discover one’s hidden feelings or thoughts. Like our own shadow, we can only see the unconscious indirectly and sometimes not at all. As we turn, it distorts or slips out of our sight. That is why the role of the media is so important. We need objectivity, honesty without distortions. Instead, the media have modeled inequities through hate-filled, aggressive and demeaning language.

Our country narrowly defines women. When women pursue their own ambitions, they must do so in the narrowly defined way that our society has sanctioned, otherwise many people are threatened.

Some men feel challenged by a strong woman such as Clinton and may feel the need to dominate her in an aggressive, demeaning way. Women who identify with male-centered values may be disgusted by a strong woman and may seek to put a strong woman in her place with insults. This is what we see played out in the media. It is even more transparent in live news programs and discussions which allow for a more unguarded, spontaneous example of these dynamics.

The media have modeled, in a perverse way, that strong, knowledgeable women are unlikable and should not bother to run for president because they too will be treated in the same way that Hillary Clinton has been treated. During these primaries, the media have told our little girls, our sisters, our wives, our mothers, “Don’t bother to run for president; they will just chew you up and spit you out.”

Deborah Atkinson, Ph.D., is a psychologist who lives in Fayetteville.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:48 PM
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1. Clinton is a strong woman?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:49 PM by sfexpat2000
Some of these Hill shills not only need to actually evaluate Clinton but also update their take on sexism, not to mention, their bogus arguments.

Hillary is a woman. Women suffer sexism. Hillary should be president. :wtf:

/grammar
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:03 PM
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5. Hillary Clinton has become the end all and be all alpha omega of feminism to her supporters
She is the living embodiment of the hopes, dreams, and frustrations of all women. Somehow, elevating this incredibly privileged white woman, who has benefitted immeasurably from her family connections to the top spot in the US will magically improve the lives of women the world over. And this is our only chance. There is no woman, nor will there ever be one, who is as uniquely qualified as Hillary Clinton for this pivotal role. :crazy:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:13 PM
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9. Then we are so screwn.
How people confuse her with strong women or even, with feminists in the first place, is a mystery to me.

Lee
Boxer
McKinney
Sanchez
Ivins
Woolsey

for the goddess's sake.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:31 PM
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21. what a load of crap. I hate it when women climb on the backs of
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 03:31 PM by Evergreen Emerald
feminists who paved the way before them, and then ridicule them.

Clinton is a powerful progressive female who deserves respect. She has helped pave the way for women in law, business, politics.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:28 PM
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11. There have been 1,897 senators since 1789. 35 of them have been women.
If you can't concede that Hillary Clinton is, indeed, a strong woman, then nothing else you have to say is of any significance. Disagree with her? Fine. I do on a host of issues, and that's why she's not my candidate. But not a "strong woman"? Asinine.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:52 PM
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13. That you feel the need to use the word "asinine" in an exchange with me
says more about you than about my comment.

That women have been underrepresented in the Senate also says more about this culture than it does about a former First Lady's insider pull.

More bullshit logic: Hillary was elected to the Senate. Women don't get elected to the Senate. Hillary is strong. lol

Strong women don't run on the record of their male relatives.

What else do you have?

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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:04 PM
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16. I have nothing until you respond to my question.
Is it your position that Hillary Clinton is not a strong woman? If so, please say so. It is demonstrably bullshit, but it's always fun to watch fanatics on either side attempt to dodge reality.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:15 PM
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17. I did answer your question.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 03:16 PM by sfexpat2000
And yes, I don't consider Hillary Clinton more than the sum of her privilege.

Strong women don't have to claim credit for other people's work.

They don't have to run on their husband's records.

They don't have to cackle when asked an uncomfortable question to cover for having no answer. A strong person answers the question.

Strong women or any strong person can identify their own voice -- it doesn't take 30 years and acting coaches.

A strong person doesn't have to lie about their positions, over and over and over.

A strong person doesn't have to be all things to all people. The word "integrity" comes to mind.


I'm the daughter of an immigrant single mom with a thick accent who not only survived but is now wealthy after coming here with nothing. I recognize a strong woman when I see one, fyi. And as a single woman myself, I know the difference between being strong and being manipulative. And in spades. I had that choice and I took the one that allowed me to look myself in the mirror in the morning.

I'm much more a fanatic of the women's movement than of any candidate. Again, that you need to use terms like "fanatic" says more about you than about my position, especially when all of DU knows that it was only Hillary Clinton's horrible behavior that finally pushed me into the Obama camp.

Maybe that's a little more clear.



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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:39 PM
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22. Well then, we'll have to agree to disagree.
Hundreds of millions of women have enriched this nation since its inception. 35 of them of have become United States senators. You have decided that since one of them opposes your chosen candidate, she must not be considered a "strong woman". Do you have any idea what kind of strength it took for a female to obtain a law degree back when Hillary did so? Have you ever displayed the strength required to run against AND WIN a state-wide campaign against a smirking bully like Rick Lazio?

Fuck, "asinine" was kind.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:50 PM
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2. Ms. Atkinson is doubtless a Hillary fan from the way-back Arkansas
days but it's too little too late for matters at hand.

Senator Clinton has lost the nomination.

Atkinson invokes Jung -- a very dangerous lunge with an overt Freudian like Hillary Clinton -- but forgets that delusional states are valid to the holder of that delusion. That is, "I'm in it to win it" is clever and bumpersticker-like but does not translate to actual current history. Jung said that one of his patients claimed she had visited the moon. As far as Jung was concerned his patient DID visit the moon, at least in the vivid perspective of the patient. Readers are given to understand that perhaps the woman only believed she visited the moon and did not in fact actually go there.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:55 PM
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3. Clinton had this guilt trip planned.
I just caught a BookTv segment where a paid shill from the Clinton School of Public Policy (if that doesn't make your head explode, nothing will by now) gave a presentation on her book Women for President. It was apparently comissioned before Mrs. Clinton declared her candidacy.

Hope you don't mind if I say, I'd puke but I haven't eaten anything yet. This person has set the women's movement back decades with her plan to cry "sexism!" BEFORE she even launched her campaign.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:59 PM
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4. Hey there and howdy. I haven't read that, but I'm not wildly surprised.
I don't see Sen. Clinton as a great plus for the women's movement, in part because of what you are saying in your post (and yes, my head is exploding over the CSPP) but also because her political celebrity rises from and is attached to her husband's political celebrity.

The U.S. Senate seat in NY is defensible, but nevertheless a public relations mechanism for a run for the White House. In and of itself not a bad thing, because her constituents are reasonably pleased with her as a rep in the top chamber. Still, Boxer shines as a feminist in ways Hillary never did.

Good to see ya knockin' around these boards as always, sfexpat2000.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:09 PM
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7. I promise you, Old Crusoe, that if I run for office, it won't be
on my husband's record. How's that? :hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:11 PM
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8. LOL! More than fair. I'll likely contribute to your campaign, by the way.
We need more poet-politicians, now more than ever, in fact.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:09 PM
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6. Hillary has made her own bed
NOTHING, I mean NOTHING excuses the nasty campaign she is running.

NOTHING justifies her praising McCain over Obama.

NOTHING makes it okay for her to shake her finger and say "SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA!"

And NOTHING will ever excuse her lies.

It isn't sexist to speak out against her. What utter and complete bullshit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:15 PM
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10. We need a new group -- Feminist for Truth.
:rofl:
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:28 PM
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19. or maybe "Suckers;"... no pun intended. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:40 PM
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23. I'd never accuse you of trying to construct a pun!
lol
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:37 PM
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12. I tried to say this yesterday.
Look, I know there are some problems with how Clinton handles herself, but no one can seriously deny that she is a strong, intelligent capable women. The gut response of many men to such a woman is purely irrational. I know, because I have been there. When I recently became the state coordinator of a progressive democratic group in my state, the male party chairman started screaming at me at a social event because I hadn't "checked" with him before sending out an email (which would have been ridiculous). Another time a state legislator called me up and screamed at me because I made some comments to a reporter that he disagreed with. He intimidated me so badly that I backed down and said I would retract them and then as soon as I got off the phone I changed my mind.

There is an old boys club, even among supposedly progressive democratic men. And in the world I'm in there aren't that many women, so thats who I have to work with. They know who behaves like this yet they excuse this behavior and enable each other. They don't see any irony in being pro-choice about womens reproductive issues but being no-choice about women having opinions different than theirs.

Sexism is alive and well in the Democratic party.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:54 PM
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14. There is a real different between being strong and being insulated.
And questioning Clinton's feminist cred is not to say that sexism isn't alive and well.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:55 PM
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15. I just read this article... and the similar one I posted.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:25 PM
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18. it's up to women to stop this sh*t. we need to start kicking ass and taking names. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:30 PM
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20. Yes, and the first thing we have to do is call out oppurtunists
that use sexism as a political football to advance their career and not us.
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