Every time Obama screws up, you blame Hillary

[carlotta]

It's almost comical. Obama sits in a church listening to hate speech for 20 years--it's Hillary's fault. Obama lies about his economic advisor telling Canada not to worry about NAFTA--Hillary's fault. Obama insults small town people--Hillary's fault, too.

Obama is not responsible for any of his own bad judgment. Hillary made him do it.

[dkf]

1. No, its Hillary's RW hitjobs that we blame her for.

[PurityOfEssence]

21. The mechanism explained:

somehow, only Clinton's pointing out of mistakes will bring them to light. Were she not dragging out his gross blunders into public view, they'd never be known. The scheming and ruthless media operatives of the reactionaries would simply miss such ridiculous gaffes, so she's the villainess for bringing down the messiah.

Damn her.

[dkf]

26. If she was really smart she'd let the MSM and RW media go off on their own.

She's an idiot.

[ihelpu2see]

54. exactly, speaking truth to power is not "screwing up".. nt

[NJmaverick]

2. Here is a novel idea for you, how about holding hillary ACCOUNTABLE

for what she SAYS.

[LisaL]

8. Of course Obama should NEVER EVER be held accountable for

what he says.

[NJmaverick]

22. Did Obama call Hillary an "elitist"? If not, what are you talking about?

[rodeodance]

31. Did Obama call PA voters bitter. Yes HE DID.

[NJmaverick]

32. True but he didn't speak in repuke and right wing talking points

he didn't try and kneecap hillary. Time to stop acting like a bush supporter and hold your candidate ACCOUNTABLE

[guruoo]

42. Didn't have to - His supporters did the swiftboating for him, e.g: DU

[NJmaverick]

43. So you don't hold the actual candidate responsible for his or HER actions

at least not hillary's

[guruoo]

48. I don't hold the candidates responsible for the actions of their followers

unless I can determine beyond a reasonable doubt that their actions originated
in official campaign policy. Thus, I
will vote for Obama if he is the nominee.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Maybe the trauma of the Bosnia incident has clouded her thinking.

Cut her some slack.

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

50. Is Hillary responsible for saying PAers use religion and guns as a crutch?

No she isn't! But Obama supporters find a way to criticize Hillary for criticizing his stupid foot in mouth disease. I'm sure O supporters would be jumping on the same bandwagon if Hillary had made those comments....just like all the snipper ridicule around here. Hypocrites!

[ruggerson]

3. What classic novel does all this remind you of?

[PBS Poll-435]

52. The Bible?

:hide:

[Bensthename]

4. Her GOP smear tactics is her problem..

She has under 10% chance of winning. There is no need to make him unelectable for the gen election.

[bellasgrams]

37. He's not electable, who in their right mind would vote for a man

that hates their country. Attends a crazy church that preaches hate, runs around with the preacher that went to Libya with Farrakhan, has another crazy preacher friend, Meeks, had an encounter with a guy, which will be in all the papers, during the GE, and the list goes on.

[Bensthename]

40. Who would vote for a candidate that lies about being shot at. Enough said. That was disgusting.

[ampad]

56. LOL

and to go up against a guy who saw combat and was held POW. Ohhh no the McCain wouldn't bring up the Bosnia issue :rofl:

[catcher]

I hope you know...

that it is because of that kind of characterization of that church that it is receiving bomb threats, you know kinda like when people spouted that MLK was a anti-American communist and bombed that church in Alabama and killed those four little girls. The type of misinformation you're displaying is hateful and dangerous.

[RC]

63. Do you miss reality much?

I don't think you know what it even is.

Go left, the direction away from the edge. Things are pretty murky where you are at, you are in danger of falling over the edge there. Either that or you are on the wrong BBS.

[BenDavid]

5. obama=SNOB: It's an elitist thing. you wouldn't understand.

Obama is trying to put a spin on his own recent words and make it look like he is a victim. He is trying to get the media to report that he only said the people in PA are bitter and they have a right to be. Sorry Obama, it is not going to work.

You(obama) said:

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

These are YOUR words, not guilt by association like Rezko, Ayers, Wright and the others, this is YOUR view, words out of YOUR mouth. Obama, did you say you were sorry? Nope, you tried to act like it is Hillary’s fault then tried to blame it on McCain. You stood by what you said and acted arrogantly about it. There is NO SPIN on this, Obama, you said it, you meant it and you should apologize for it, not try and blame other people for it. This one is on YOU Obama! Stop trying to spin it like you actually care for the people, like you are a victim as these words say something totally different. These are NOT “just words.’

[Bensthename]

10. you sound like a member of Limbaughs operation chaos.

[11 Bravo]

28. He quoted Senator Obama's words verbatim. Are you accusing Obama of being a Limbaugh fan?

[rodeodance]

33. Obama throwing the kitchen sink at her is very RWish.

[Drunken Irishman]

35. Hillary has taken a page out of the Republican notebook.

No one is bitter and if they are, it's their own damn fault! I can't believe so many Clinton supporters are ready to abandon Democratic ideals just to trash Obama over something that is fucking true. Clinton reminds me more and more of Joey Lieberman in the 2004 Democratic primary. Whenever anyone said something true, he'd lash out at 'em using Republican talking points. THAT is exactly what Clinton and some of her Republican-lite supporters are doing.

Working-class Americans have nothing to be angry about, life is good! I mean, who cares if they're losing their jobs thanks to the trade agreement her husband signed and she supported in the 1990s, they need to get over it. It's the same bullshit we hear about blacks in this country. Black people have it good, so they have no business being angry or bitter about the government. Hillary Clinton is Pat Buchanan in drag. She has shown her true colors, Hillary Clinton is a DINO. She doesn't care about the working-class, she doesn't care about core Democratic ideals. Screw that. Hillary and Bill need to do what they should've done a long time ago, leave the Democratic Party and join the GOP, because they'd fit right in.

[Bensthename]

38. Agrreed, She is a power hungry RW decoy.

[bellasgrams]

47. I'm sorry but it's BO that's the repub lover. The dems haven't done

anything right since JFK according to BO. Reagan is his idol. It is BO and his followers that have completely lost their way. Just read the posts on DU. The BO posts always bash the dems. Hillary is not allowed to even question BO's action in a tight election. Never thought I would see dems attacking their former first lady that has done so much her whole life for minorities, poor, & children. BO is full of Hate.

[Drunken Irishman]

51. I'm sorry you haven't been paying attention.

Clinton is taking one out of the Reagan playbook, blaming people for their lackluster life. Ronald Reagan was good at telling working-class Americans that if they were bitter and angry over life, it was their own damn fault. That mindset continues today in the Republican Party and it's been adopted by none other than Clinton.

It's not a coincidence John McCain and Hillary Clinton are both spewing the same anti-Democratic, anti-working-class, pro-corporate line.

[Bensthename]

36. Oh, I have some nice quotes of Senator McClinton if you would like to see them.

[11 Bravo]

41. If you don't see the irony in your post, then you are beyond hope.

In a post attempting to equate Senator Clinton with Joe McCarthy, you pretty much say, "I have here in my hand ...". Fucking hilarious.

[Bensthename]

46. No she is a McCain. They are the equal. Kind of, McCain has more tact.

[NJmaverick]

24. LOL! That funny! You suport the 100 million dollar candidate

and are trying to call Obama a snob. Thanks for my afternoon laugh.

[LisaL]

6. Obama is a perfect human being, so somebody else obviously

to blame if Obama makes a mistake. That if he ever could make a mistake.
:sarcasm:

[Moderate-Democrate]

7. They will blame Hillary when Obama does not win on 4/22/08

[cooolandrew]

11. It was McCain that said Obama was not influnced by Wright HRC in both cases used the story.

When a Republican can defend a Democrat candidate and HRC attacks, we can only sit and wonder.

[Beregond2]

12. The point is,

he ISN'T screwing up. She keeps trying to turn these things into problems, and in doing so, SHE is screwing up.

[AZBlue]

13. When has Obama screwed up?

The "bitter" remark? That was spot on.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. Obama has not screwed up (he is being used by Hillary)

[AZBlue]

23. She's trying to play us all.

He hasn't screwed up once - it's amazing actually when you think about it, most candidates do screw up once or twice.

[Life Long Dem]

14. Obama didn't screw up.

It is a complete lie in what Hillary is saying about the recent issue of Obama's "bitter" comment.

Obama did not misspeak nor has he said a lie.

[cali]

16. no. first of all, fuck characterizing his church like that. It's disgusting

Secondly, that piece of work hillary is attacking him in the most dishonest and right wing way, using Grover Norquist to do it. What Obama said- awkwardly phrased as it may have been- wasn't remotely elitest. And Hilly is just fucking herself again. Every time she opens her disgusting trap and lies and attacks him, her approval ratings fall.

She is a piece of... work.

[Saturday]

17. Yep, that pretty much tells it like it is. nt

[PM7nj]

18. I blame Hillary for being a horrible person.

I don't think Hillary is responsible for Obama's "mistakes" She is responsible for the shit that spews out of her mouth.

[stevenleser]

19. Obama didnt screw up, that's the point. Hillary and her supporters try to make something out of nada

- Pastor? Non Issue

- Surrogate supposedly makes statements not in step with the campaign? - Non Issue

- Obama correctly pointing out that 81% of the country believe the country is on the wrong track and IMHO angry/upset/bitter about it? Not only not a negative issue, an incredibly astute point.

The question is, why is YOUR candidate reduced to this? Why cant HILLARY be more about substance and not about this bullshit?

[Hepburn]

20. I blame Hillary for being a lame bitch and spewing faux indignation....

...about non-existent issues.

[pdxmom]

25. And every time Hillary screws up, she blames the media. At least

Obama takes responsibility for his words, while Hillary just lies a little more.

[Nedsdag]

27. Bad judgement?

You mean, voting to continue to cluster bomb thousands of innocent Iraqis, including the women and children she allegedly cares about is good judgement?

If that's the case, Carlotta, you are as sick in the head as she is.

[rodeodance]

29. Yes, they do---its a RW smear job that many BHO do to Hillary

[rodeodance]

30. REC

[nichomachus]

34. Hate speech -- please support that statement -- otherwise this thread is crap

First, I've heard his pastor make some strong statements that were "politically incorrect" if you subscribe to the faux patriotism that's so popular these days.

And can you prove that there was 20 years of uninterrupted "hate speech," which is what you claim with your statement "sits in a church listening to hate speech for 20 years?"

Pretty much your main claim is full of shit, as is the thread.

[Lucinda]

39. Amazing isn't it?

[Life Long Dem]

49. What's amazing is Hillary thinks she is the "hope" to take away this bitterness that is felt.

That's like saying you can trust me, I won't lie to you, and every policy issue will be delivered by me will not make you feel bitter like Bill's health care policy he never delivered, or Bush Sr .,or Bush Jr., and now Hillary. That's just a pill I won't swallow anymore. And for Obama to point this out and put it onto the table for all to see should be given an "award" for this and this alone.

[EFerrari]

44. This OP is so twisted, it's not even worth trying to unpack.

Well done!

[shayes51]

45. Of course. He's perfect.

:puke:

[Nitrogenica]

53. Everytime Obama defends himself very well, you are not impressed?

You're a fucking moron.

Bye.

[BzaDem]

55. They will blame Hillary for Obama losing on 11/4. But they will be happy that Hillary didn't win.

[EFerrari]

58. I have news for you. If I never see or think of HIllary Clinton again

it will be too soon. I wouldn't waste the time, attention or the energy to be happy that she lost.

She's run a horrible campaign and now she is actively hurting our next candidate.

[Vinca]

60. You mean she can't win???? Now I'm really confused.

Why are you supporting someone you don't think can win? Of course we'll blame her if she's the candidate and loses. She's got enough baggage to fill a 747, but apparently it's against the Hillary laws to speak of it. She'd rather ruin any chance that Obama might have to win rather than acknowledge the Republican campaign that would lay ahead for her. I find it really amusing her people are lobbying against Obama over "bitter-gate" and Rev. Wright when you know darn well the superdelegates are weighing Monica/Paula/Gennifer/Kathleen against any Obama negatives.

[Lucky 13]

57. Well if that ain't the BIG FAT POT calling the kettle black

All you people do is turn Hillary's MAJOR BLUNDERS (not wording choices) into OBAMA's fault.

Obama didn't bring up Sniper-gate.
Obama didn't make Hillary cackle like a lunatic at a serious ethical question.
Obama didn't make Hillary lie about her record on NAFTA.
Obama didn't make Hillary vote for the war.

She fucks up all on her own... DAILY. He doesn't even have to point it out most of the time. MOST of the time everyone is so flabberghasted by her stupidity, it can't HELP but garner news coverate.


Regarding "bitter-gate"... she has taken his word and utterly distorted them into an entirely different meaning. She knows it. You know it. The public knows it.

She is attempting to damage OUR NOMINEE. It will back fire on her, like all her other hair-brained schemes.

Your end is drawing near. Hillary will step aside soon. Barack WILL be OUR NOMINEE. We invite you to join us now in unity behind Barack instead of wasting more time and resources on a doomed candidate. Think about it.

[EFerrari]

61. It's Obama Envy. He's everything the Clinton supporters expected her to be.

He's poised, thoughtful, photogenic, playful, balanced, gifted. And that's apart from his grasp of policy and people.

If he were just the run of the mill hack, they wouldn't be so furious.

And I can't say I blame them. If I had such high hopes, I'd be looking for a scapegoat right about now.

[azmouse]

59. 20 years of hate speech? WTF!

A few minutes of true and realistic comments by a preacher do not translate to 20 of hate speech.

The NAFTA story was all HilLIARy.

And small towns were not insulted by the truth of what is happening in this country.

[otohara]

62. Now I've Heard Everything

Who's you?

[bigtree]

64. that jezebel!

shame!

[JoFerret]

65. It does seem to be a pattern

...and of course some will say - she is exploiting his mistake.

Of course she is. It's politics.

And if she doesn't "they" (GOP) will.......and to devastating effect in November.

Fortunately - Hillary has never misspoken or made a misstep. Otherwise Obama supporters wold be all over it.

[Left coast liberal]

66. Wow, you're really reaching.

[PseudoIntellect]

67. Actually, Obama APOLOGIZED for his comments on guns and religion clinging.

Do you think Hillary will ever admit being wrong or apologize for anything?

Obama was right about calling people bitter. He was wrong for saying small towns cling to the stuff and whatnot. But he has apologized, okay?

[ronnykmarshall]

68. ABC

Always
Blame
Clinton

[Raffi Ella]

69. It's not almost comical,

it IS comical. Post after post after post blaming Hillary for Barack's Bad Judgement. Poor Barack, just can't catch a break :( , lol.

[smiley_glad_hands]

70. What is Hilliary for using republican frames and empowering the conservative agenda? eom

[ElsewheresDaughter]

71. yep and it is pathetic.....must suck to be them

[ampad]

72. Every time Hillary gets caught in a lie

Hillary supporters blame the MSM. Who are y'all going to blame when she officially loses the nomination? You never hold her accountable so I guess that would be us and the MSM for picking on the little girl; who in reality is a grown ass woman who has a problem telling the truth.