McCain's out as No. 2; is Edwards in?

[JI7]

the first part of this article on mccain is crap in my opinion. it suggests mccain would be good vp but couldn't bring himself to accept because of the kind of person he is(indepedent)and a vp is the #2 guy and wont be as independent. it also assumes kerry or at least others want mccain. but the part about edwards is good and worth reading. this is especially good because it focuses on their similarities which show they would work well together.


<That leaves Edwards. Part of the modern selection ritual is exploring in depth the thoughts of leaders around the country. This spring the ritual produced a broad consensus for the guy whose emergence in Iowa five months ago was as dramatic as Kerry's. Edwards is praised as a New South Southerner, a centrist, a fresh face, a master communicator.

The praise, however, misses something Edwards and Kerry have in common -- the roots of their emergence.

Each understood that voters were prepared to listen to leaders who believed that the time had come to bring the issue of Saddam Hussein's Iraq to a head and to authorize the use of military force but who believed just as strongly that the invasion and its aftermath had been horridly botched.

Even more important, each of them understood that voters did not want to see security issues obscure the host of problems ordinary families are having coping with economic forces that threaten job security, financial health, and quality of life. Kerry and Edwards communicated this understanding town by town; that's why they finished one-two.

Edwards's first outing after the primaries was to the Democratic State Convention in North Dakota. The two Democratic senators in a Republican state, Byron Dorgan and Kent Conrad, were bowled over. One of his most recent outings was to the battleground state of Minnesota; among the converts there was former Vice President Walter Mondale. Just yesterday, two Democratic Senate candidates facing tough but winnable elections in conservative states, Brad Carson of Oklahoma and Chris John of Louisiana, chose Edwards as the draw for a joint fund-raising lunch in Philadelphia.

The hang-up with Edwards for me is not personal chemistry; instead, it's thinking through his role in a Kerry administration. For now, a negative point suffices: No more Dick Cheney. The government works better when the president is the president.>

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/06/15/mccains_out_as_no_2_is_edwards_in/

[aquart]

1. I want to personally strangle anyone who proposed McCain.

Sometimes I have these terrible fantasies.

[Jim Sagle]

2. That would be the media. Their fantasies aren't so hot either.

[I thought so.]

4. You fell for it.

McCain was never considered,but it fogged negative media on Kerry. John knows how hard it is to fight them. He is doing very well.
So many were suckered in.

[sventvkg]

3. Great, another Guy who supports the war......

Edwards.........

[I thought so.]

5. When did he do that?

If you don't like him say so. But lying doesn't get it. If you have a quote,post it. If I am wrong I will say so.

[robbedvoter]

11. "I would have started the war with Iraq" - Hardball

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3131295/

MATTHEWS: OK. I just want to get one thing straight so that we know how you would have been different in president if you had been in office the last four years as president. Would you have gone to Afghanistan?

EDWARDS: I would.

MATTHEWS: Would you have gone to Iraq?

EDWARDS: I would have gone to Iraq. I

[John_H]

9. Nader didn't support the war. He only

busted unions several times, profiteered from wal-mart, accepted Republican financial and political support, lied his ass off about Al Gore, and is assets. Betcha he's your kind of guy.

[spooky3]

6. I agree, these are interesting insights. Thanks.

[Thrill]

7. I personally still believe

Mark Warner will be the suprise VP

[AP]

8. I think the Kerry campaign is leaking that it will be someone else, which

is encouraging papers to create an expectation that it wil be Edwards, because they think that it will hurt Kerry when he picks someone else.

But I think maybe it will be Edwards (Kerry is roping the dope press).

But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Edwards.

[chimpymustgo]

10. What IS going on? Edwards, Edwards, Edwards (to paraphrase the

presumptive nominee).

Tom Oliphant, Al Franken, Bill Press - all in one day...