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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 03:41 PM
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New Poll: Bush up in Tennessee 49-41
It is a Rasmussen Poll, so you be the judge, but since others have cited them here I thought I would too. This is a new state poll released today by them.

Bush has a overall 54% approval rating in Tennessee.

Overall if the election were held today it is a horserace according to Rasmussen--45-45 Bush slightly over Kerry.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:01 PM
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8. I'm definitely more sensitive
to this issue now. Your're absolutely right Scoop. Name calling is never really justified.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:04 PM
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9. i am a southerner
born and raised in wv-i live in northern ky now


deny it all you want, but the south is mostly comprised of ignorant religious nuts and racists. sure there are exceptions (jimmy carter, john edwards), but for the most part it's the truth.

look at all the good we get politically from the land of dixie-trent lott, zell miller, strom thurmond, jesse helms, newt gingrich, lindsey grahm, jerry falwell, ollie north, liddy dole, richards shelby-throw in the villans of texas, bush, delay, armey, gramm, hutchinsin, and pretty much everything evil in american politics comes from the south

-for the record, the rest comes from orange county, ca.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:07 PM
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11. Hey I'm from OC!
There's a few good dems out there. Granted not enough though.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 08:28 PM
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21. AHEM
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 08:35 PM by Scoopie
Clinton, Clark, Gore, Graham, Nunn, Anne Richards, Bredesen (transplant, but spent all his adult life here), Warner, Bumpers, McWhorter, Harold Ford Jr., Harold Ford Sr., Davis...

On Edit, and since you included Falwell: Harry Thomason, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason and Mary Steenbergen

So, you see, I really don't know what your beef is.
And, besides, doesn't Kentucky now have a new progressive in the Senate?
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:35 PM
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16. Tennessee is a wonderful state with wonderful people.
Their access to incisive analysis (good newspapers) and rigorous education shows, though.

A lot of those nice people are kind of gullible, and if they only hear Rush and his clones on the radio, they are going to believe that stuff is true.

Oh, and don't forget the churches. You can stand almost anywhere in Tennessee and see at least three churches! The people who attend those churches have, in many cases, had their congregations hijacked by Anti-abortion and anti-gay fanatics.

What Tennessee needs is Air America and whatever Al Gore is cooking up for his TV channel.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 08:11 PM
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20. Agreed
There are plenty of intelligent people here - but we're not being challenged daily on our radio stations.
All we have is ultra-right-wing radio because the promoters are too scared to take a change on anything else. I don't think they realize how many people would listen, at first, to see what's up and then tune in daily to hear the other point of view.
And, you're right about the churches, too. I had to stop going when they started praying for Bush to win in 2000 during Bible study. It was ridiculous.
What's so funny is that my son probably knows more about Christ and His good deeds from MY teachings than from that hateful-laced rhetoric being passed off as true Christianity.

Now - as far as newspapers - we have several good newspapers. I just wish people would read them. My local paper has an excellent smattering of liberal, moderate and conservative columnists, for example.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 10:20 PM
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25. We just had our Executive Committee meeting tonight and
one of ourmembers agave a very impassioned speech about how he was not willing to concede Tennessee to Bush and we shouldn't either. It really fired up some of the old guard.

Anyway, we got some specific committments to do some things, got some money to do some things, and got TWO headquarters agreed to - one at each end of the county!

We're in East Tennessee and we're not conceding anything!

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:06 PM
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10. Not all of us south of the Mason Dixon are ignorant ...
Unfortunately for me though, the majority are ignorant and it is scary!
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:25 PM
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14. D'oh!
my point remains the same, though. the land of the southern baptists is ruining the country and i'm ashamed to be from here.
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:35 PM
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15. I'm more aggravated than ashamed.
But while we can win without the red states, we can't be one country again unless we can turn them around. The Solid South used to be solid for Democrats, until the Repugs milked the prejudice and fear for votes and took it away from us. Most folks aren't totally bad down here; I'm trying to change one vote at a time by appealing to their better nature. Bush is such an obvious thug that they can't deny it -- I really think we can shame Republicans into do doing what's right and voting the S.O.B. and his cronies out of office, and that's not just in the south, but in the whole country.
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:49 PM
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19. "How much are you willing to pay for the South"?
That's allegedly what Goldwater aides asked Reagan in 1964. The prediction (and the outcome) was that if the GOP jumped on the racism bandwagon after the Dems jumped off it with the Voting Rights Act, they would fill the vacuum and rather than being ostracized, the white racist element within the south would be re-energized around a GOP center. When Falwell, Reed and the FrankenChristians rose the next decade, they cemented their control over the south.

That isn't going to last forever. Agrarian regions are invariably more morally and religiously reactionary ("if I have sex with another man the thunder god will be angry and send a drought"), but the south has many urban/suburban centers now rising in which people graduate college and women actually press charges for sexual assault. There are Starbucks all over Atlanta, RTP, and NoVa. Eventually, the south will come back into play. Barring the Plague, those communities aren't going back to their rural roots.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:48 PM
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18. Oh boy another south bashing thread
We might as well secede from Wymoing, Montana, Idaho, Utah and both the Dakotas. That's a region as well, and one that has been far more kind to Repuke canidates than the south has.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 03:51 PM
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2. Actually, this lead of 8 points
is less than the recent Zogby poll that had Bush ahead by almost 12 points in Tennessee.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 08:38 PM
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22. It was 11 points, but here's something
interesting.
The week the spread went for 2.5 points difference to 11 points difference, I wasn't contacted by Zogby's interactive poll. I wonder how many others who are anti-Bush weren't contacted.
I, however, was contacted yesterday for this week's poll. We'll see what the difference is.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 03:53 PM
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3. Kind of shocking to me
I thought we would be more competitive in TN!
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 03:56 PM
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5. I don't see any Bush support
I rather suspect there's some tweaking going on.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 03:57 PM
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6. Let him have Tennessee
If they wouldn't vote for Gore, they won't vote for a Massachusetts Democrat. Punt Tennessee and try Virginia instead.
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:00 PM
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7. This kind of thing used to make me angry...
Sigh.

We're not ignorant hicks. I live in a city. I wear shoes. I'm a life-long Democrat. We have a Democrat governor, who's the most underrated & overlooked politician in America. I worked for Al Gore SENIOR back in the day. I'm going to work for Kerry this time. We're trying the best we can, but we're up against the same thing everyone else is. Don't write Tennessee off just yet. And lay off the "Ignorant Hick" crap. We need to work together.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:09 PM
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12. You are lucky - I cannot brag about my gov. I live in Miss.
The carpetbagger who was crowned gov is so entrenched with the evil ones that it makes my skin crawl.
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 08:57 PM
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24. Welcome to DU!
I'm one of those "ignorant hicks" too.... and the stereotypes "still" bother me.
Southern-bashing is one of the few accepted exceptions on DU, it would appear. Stay with us; there's much more good than bad here. The du rules do not assure total bliss as a perk.
...O...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:40 PM
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17. Pure BS, considering more people in the South have sons in Iraq
(than the rest of the country). It's especially the "went up" thingy that raised by BS meter. Nothing W did lately can convince anyone to go his way.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 08:54 PM
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23. It is past time we abandoned the "southern strategy"
via the idea that all or even most southerners are so ignorant or provincial that they will only vote for other southerners. This is simply not the case, and it's insulting to the people who live there.

That is what Dean was trying to tell us, but he put it so bluntly that he was ridiculed for it. There are plenty of delightful, warm-hearted, intelligent southerners. They shouldn't be treated as a separate political species. They are Americans.

And yes, I know that the "southern strategy" is a Republican creation that came to fruition with Reagan--treating southerners as a separate species--look where that got us.
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 03:19 AM
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26. Gotta love the stereotypes!
Posts about stupid southerners, posts about fat people voting Puke, posts about brain-washed Christians who can't think for themselves and always support the Puke spill....

It always surprises to see this kind of stuff here. You'd never see this kind of stuff about minorities, GLBT, etc

Guess I break all the rules. I'm an overweight, southern, Christian who'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote Puke!

Think about that the next time you throw those stereotypes around!
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 03:44 AM
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27. Yeah, and Southerners wont vote for a Yankee, either.
Or a black, or a woman, or any minority.

Southerners vote for white racists only, and an all Yankee ticket will never work.

Bullshit, my friends. B*U*L*L*S*H*I*T.

No offense to the original poster.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:50 PM
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28. Locking
Just because a poll says that Bush is leading in the Tennessee or anywhere in the South doesn't mean all southerners are "hicks" or whatever. This thread has degenerated into a flame war.

Rp
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