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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:58 PM
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Edwards stock down as Kerry team focuses on foreign policy VP
ABC news has learned that Jim Johnson, the man running Kerry's VP search says the nominee should have instant credibility on national security, something many feel Edwards lacks. Other names are still being tossed around, such as Sen. Graham, former Sen. Sam Nunn, William Cohen, Wesley Clark, etc. Kerry gives no hints about his preferences (Kerry SOT). "Conventional wisdom is often flat wrong on the VP search. Few predicted Al Gore, Dan Quayle, Joe Lieberman, or Dick Cheney would get the nod."

LINK: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/Evening_Newscasts.html


And there is information that Chris Heinz agrees...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04169/333260.stm


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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 02:04 PM
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1. Heinz comment was more a question
he was wondering if foreign policy should be more of a focus.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:51 PM
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3. It wasn't a question. It was a statement.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 02:14 PM
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2. If he goes that route, then you can bet he's of the Brzezinski, Kissinger
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 02:44 PM by Dover
school of foreign policy. This is the foreign policy group that drives the DNC....the "think tank" called the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), whose chairman is Sam Nunn. Scroll down for the full list of officers/members.

http://csis.org/about/index.htm#4

CSIS Board, Counselors, and Advisers


Board of Trustees

Chairman
Sam Nunn*
Chairman and CEO, Nuclear Threat Initiative

Vice Chairman
David M. Abshire
President, Center for the Study of the Presidency,
and Cofounder of CSIS

Chairman, Executive Committee
Anne Armstrong*
Former U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain

Members

Betty Stanley Beene, Kenneth G. Langone
Reginald K. Brack, Donald B. Marron,
William E. Brock, E. Stanley O'Neal,
Harold Brown, Felix G. Rohatyn,
Zbigniew Brzezinski, Charles A. Sanders,
William S. Cohen, James R. Schlesinger,
Ralph Cossa, William A. Schreyer*,
Douglas N. Daft, Brent Scowcroft,
Richard Fairbanks, Murray Weidenbaum,
Michael P. Galvin*, Dolores D. Wharton,
John J. Hamre*, Frederick B. Whittemore,
Benjamin W. Heinman, Jr. R. James Woolsey,
Carla A. Hills, Amos A. Jordan, (Emeritus)
Ray L. Hunt, Leonard H. Marks, (Emeritus)
Henry A. Kissinger Robert S. Strauss, (Emeritus)

*Member of the Executive Committee

Counselors

William E. Brock
Henry A. Kissinger
Harold Brown Sam Nunn
Zbigniew Brzezinski James R. Schlesinger
William S. Cohen Brent Scowcroft
Richard Fairbanks

Senior Advisers

J. Carter Beese
Amos A. Jordan
Bradley D. Belt
John Kornblum
James M. Bodner
Robert H. Kupperman
Stanton H. Burnett
Laurence Martin
Richard R. Burt
Thomas F. (Mack) McLarty
William K. Clark, Jr.
Richard McCormack
Arnaud de Borchgrave Walter Slocombe
Diana Lady Dougan
Robert Tyrer
Luis E. Giusti Anthony Zinni (Distinguished Senior Adviser)
Fred C. Iklé (Distinguished Scholar in Residence)



CSIS Leadership

Corporate Officers

John J. Hamre, President and Chief Executive Officer
Robin Niblett, Executive Vice President and Corporate Secretary
Kurt Campbell, Senior Vice President and Director, International Security Program
Erik R. Peterson, Senior Vice President and Director, CSIS Institute of Executive Education
Patrick M. Cronin, Senior Vice President and Director of Studies
Greg Broaddus, Vice President for Operations and Treasurer

Jay C. Farrar, Vice President for External Affairs

CSIS Specialists

Governance

Robert E. Ebel, Director, Energy and National Security Program
Richard Jackson, Director, Global Aging Initiative
Sherman E. Katz, William M. Scholl Chair in International Business
Shireen T. Hunter, Director, , Islamic Studies Program
James A. Lewis, Director, Technology and Public Policy Program
Erik R. Peterson, William A. Schreyer Chair in Global Analysis
Anne G. Solomon, Senior Associate, Technology and Public Policy Program and Director, Biotechnology Initiative
Sidney Weintraub, William A. Schreyer Chair in Global Analysis

International Security

Anthony H. Cordesman, Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy
Arnaud de Borchgrave, Director, Global Organized Crime Project
Kurt Campbell, Director, International Security Program
Michèle Flournoy, Senior Adviser, International Security Program
Clark Murdock, Senior Fellow, International Security Program
Amy Smithson, Senior Fellow, International Security Program

Regions

J. Stephen Morrison, Director, Africa Program
Sidney Weintraub, Director, Americas Program
Bates Gill, Freeman Chair in China Studies and Director, Asia Program
William T. Breer, Japan Chair
Ralph Cossa, President, Pacific Forum CSIS
Simon Serfaty, Director, Europe Program and Brzezinski Chair in Global Security and Geostrategy
Janusz Bugajski, Director, Eastern Europe Project
Jonathan Alterman, Director, Middle East Program
Celeste A. Wallander, Director, Russia and Eurasia Program
Teresita C. Schaffer, Director, South Asia Program
Bulent Aliriza, Director, Turkey Project

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CSIS Affiliates


The International Councillors, a group of international business leaders chaired by Henry Kissinger, meets semi-annually to discuss the implications of the changing economic and strategic environment.

The Advisory Board is composed of both public-sector policymakers and leading business people, including several members of Congress. Zbigniew Brzezinski and Carla Hills cochair the board.

The Washington Roundtable meets three to four times a year with members of Congress, executive branch officials, and other Washington experts to discuss pressing policy issues of the day.

The Houston and Dallas Roundtables bring together local business leaders and CSIS experts to discuss current international political and economic trends.


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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:05 PM
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9. Don't be silly. There's no earthly way he's going to pick
either Sam Nunn or William Fucking Cohen as VP.

And by the way, I have some beachfront property here in New Mexico you might find attractive...
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:30 PM
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17. I agree.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:32 PM
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4. lol, more desperate spin from the Clarkies, THE ARTICLE SAYS NO SUCH THING
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 09:36 PM by Doosh
tell me where does it say Edwards stock is down, because I can point you to where it says Clark's stock is down, and that article is more recent.


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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:38 PM
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5. I'm a Clarkie
and though I can't prove you sneered through your post, it is seething with condescension.

For the record, we "Clarkies" are the only spin doctors in the house that is DU.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:41 PM
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6. The page changed. The quote was there.
I saw the quote exactly as posted a short time ago, under the "veepstakes" heading. The page has changed, but the passage was there and it was quoted and cited accurately.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:45 PM
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8. I believe it was
yes, but that article was a few days old.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:07 PM
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10. Desperate?
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 10:18 PM by cosmokramer
What's so desperate? I don't care if Kerry picks his nose and eats it on camera, I will vote for him. It is delusional to believe Kerry will choose a VP with NO foreign policy...KERRY HIMSELF said this would be a requirement, Johnson said it will be a requirement. It may or may not be Clark, but it DEFINITELY AIN'T EDWARDS.


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote.html

"Kerry has privately expressed concerns about whether Edwards meets this presidential threshold, the sources said. After the primaries, Kerry remarked to aides, 'What makes him think he can be president?' Around that time, Kerry told aides that if he had lost the nomination, he would have endorsed Gephardt, who he described as ready-made for the job."

Oh, and for the earlier dead link, check the evening newscast wrap for June 16th evening news...
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:45 PM
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7. I'm willing to bet if Kerry does not pick someone
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 09:47 PM by Skwmom
with national security credentials, the republicans and republican controlled media are going to hammer him for this right out of the gate. All you have to do is read the latest "news" to see what their first line of attack is going to be.

The media will constantly praise Bush for being a confident enough and wise enough man to appoint a VP who can readily step into the role of commander-in-chief. They will say that providing for the safety of the American public was foremost in Bush's mind in picking a VP.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:09 PM
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11. Clark or not...
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 10:10 PM by Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak
The GOP is already hammering home the message that the Dems are weak on defense and that Kerry is going to be some kind of wussy. I'm not going to put my money on Clark directly, but I would bet (if I could) that it will be someone who IS strong on defense. Yes, JK has military experience, but that can (and is) going to be softened by the counter attack of his protesting following the VW. Kerry needs to pick someone who will balance out that - someone with a history of foreign policy... someone LIKE Clark. It doesn't have to be him, but it damn sure can't be a one-term former personal injury attorney....unless his platform is going to be "sue the bastards who sent us to Iraq."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:10 PM
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12. I agree with you.
It may be someone we haven't thought of, but it HAS to be someone with strong military and/or foreign policy and/or national defense credentials.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:19 PM
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13. Exactly!
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:50 PM
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16. Wife; not necessarily. Remember Kerry already thinks
of himself as an expert in Natl Security and foreign policy.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:51 PM
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18. If not Clark...
...then someone competent and EXPERIENCED in FP/NatSec/Diplomacy. It absolutely WILL NOT be JE. Not only does he lack exp. in these fields, but is only slightly exp. in any other field.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:31 PM
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19. correct.
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:38 PM
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14. First McCain, now Cohen. Geez. n/t
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:44 PM
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15. It will be neither.
Gotta be a pro-reproductive choice FP/NatSec person. Won't work without that.
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