Michael Moore on Dean: "I think Dean's a good guy"

[mzmolly]

And ... "I'll support whoever the candidate is."

"I also noticed in the article that you wrote, you -- explaining why you like Wesley Clark so much, you said this, "He is clearly not from Park Avenue." Well, we all know Howard Dean was born on Park Avenue. Was that a swipe at Howard Dean? What do you have against Howard Dean?

MOORE: Nothing.

It was more what I have against Park Avenue. It was not meant to be a swipe at Dean. Look, I think Dean's a good guy.

And I think I'd like to participate in that tone and not throw mud at Dean and not bring up things that I think -- look, you could say so many things about any of the candidates, how -- positions they've taken that I don't like or haven't liked in the past, how they've changed their minds, things they've been involved in."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/15/cnna.moore/

One duplicate post deserves another. Keep it :kick:ed!

[vi5]

1. I thought he wasn't going to support Kerry?

I just read that somewhere today so don't quote me on that. In this interview/article he went to great pains to point out that he is not endorsing Kerry.

[mzmolly]

2. I think he'll *vote* for Kerry, but not offer an official endorsement?

MM is a great film maker, but the ol' ego is a bit large sometimes ;)

[NoPasaran]

4. MM is a big guy, he's entitled to a big ego to go with it

Sometimes I find him kind of annoying and preachy. But he had the GUTS to speak out against Bush's drive to war at the Academy Awards last year and he's made Fahrenheit 9/11 which we're all hoping will be a devastating blow against Bushco in the popular culture.

Hurrah for Michael Moore AND Howard Dean: two individuals who stood up long before it was popular!

:yourock:

[mzmolly]

5. Here here! I'll drink to that!

;)

[bigwillq]

8. What a great last line, NoPasaran

True indeed. That's why I loved Dean from the first time I heard him speak while priming to be prez, he had the balls to tell the truth.

6. great filmmaker? Big Ego?

I've never heard those two phrases in the same sentence before.:evilgrin:

[mzmolly]

3. kick

:hi:

Which is it Mr. Moore? Hmmmm, "Prick" or "good guy"??? :crazy:

7. Maybe Dean is both-

One of the good guys, and a pretty decent prick. He's certainly been a prick in the side of BushCo, right?

I can look at MM's comment from whatever perspective I prefer. :)

[mzmolly]

9. S'actlly!

:hi:

[dansolo]

11. I believe he still hates Dean

"And I think I'd like to participate in that tone and not throw mud at Dean and not bring up things that I think"

From that, I gather he still thinks Dean is a prick. It probably wouldn't be good press for his movie to call the most outspoken critic of the war a "prick". That is probably why he is trying to be so diplomatic.

[madfloridian]

10. People who bring change are not always nice. Depends on your goal.

I have had principals through the years, for example, who were very nice and pleasant. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. I have had principals who were prickly and brusque, and I loved them equally.

I have noticed a common thread in the Dean/DFA supporters here in our still growing group:

We are outspoken on the whole, not especially concerned with impressing.....more concerned with making a difference. Some of us are less likely than others to pander and make nice, but instead we stand up and speak out against the wrongs. I have noticed that most of us are pretty educated, read a lot, write a lot of letters to the editors.

Michael Moore speaks powerfully, but in a different way. Dean is more intellectual, thinks way ahead of his speech pattern at times.....and I find it thoroughly fine. I do the same thing. He is not especially tolerant of fools, and I sure understand that.

Sometimes you can not make a difference and bring real change by being nice all the time. Sometimes it takes prickly to bring change.....and I am totally on board with that.

Too many politicians have been "unprickly" for way too long.

What Moore said was his right, but it was a very unclassy thing to say at such a time in our country. Since he started supporting Clark, he starting putting Dean down and building up the Clintons...and I did not think he was ever that fond of them.

Dean is working for Kerry and the country 6 days a week, many events a day. He did not deserve that comment at a time like this. Moore had a right to say it, though. It was just unwise and not classy.

I prefer Dean's manner to that of the other candidates. It is matter of fact, down to earth, and not meant to impress. I am tired of being put down for appreciating what he has done. It started at a certain time in the primaries. Before that he was pretty respected here, in fact well respected. It changed suddenly and most of us know when and why.

So again, if you really want to make change you might have to be a prick. Ok with me.