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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:19 PM Original message |
The Weather Underground did not murder anybody. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. I feel better about them already. Thanks for opening my eyes. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Obama doesn't know him well enough to bring him to campaign appearances. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. "That's the extent of their relationship" - untrue. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm all ears. Please link to facts that show otherwise. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:16 PM Original message |
I thought you would own up to your error |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. This backs up exactly what I said. They served on a committee together ten years ago. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
84. You left out the panel discussions they participated in together. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Are you just being deliberately obtuse? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. You didn't mention commitees, and panel discussions are individual events. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. well i guess the foots on the other hand now |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. Deleted message |
yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. When all your arguments are refuted, stoop to ridiculing the mentally ill. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. You did not do that, did you? Touchy aren't we? |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
117. It doesn't sound militant enough to frighten me n/t |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Will you be leaving right after she steps down or will you |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Maybe we could start a pool. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. A pool is a fine idea - we could take a percentage and donate it |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Well, they are going to need jobs after she drops out.... |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Heh heh. |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. My girlfriend's super is ex- Black Panther. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The Black Panthers were actually a very interesting group, unfairly maligned by the media. |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Yeah.... I can talk to the guy for hours. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. God forbid that there be a black man with a gun! |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Precisely. It was a tactical mistake - and they did enjoy white fear n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. What approach would have been more acceptable to the whites? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
79. When I offered free computer classes in a former crack house |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Well, I started this thread, to answer your question. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Wow. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. They enjoyed the fear of white racists. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Smile. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. The powers that be unleashed COINTELPRO on them |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. And stop a movement toward worker's rights and human rights, too. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. And it was the Weather Underground that uncovered COINTELPRO |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. It looks like we have a live one on this very thread. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
99. It's nice to know that the US government can get away with criminal conspiracies |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. But if a couple of people get fed up and blow up a building full of children and feds |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. I can remember in 1969 getting off the elevated in a poor neighborhood in Chicago |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Thank you for witnessing for the truth. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. The Black Panthers were good people too. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. Some were. Some weren't |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. As a matter of fact |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Their goal was to stop the war. |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Vietnam.......Millions were dying.......there was a draft......police crackdowns |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. In 1981 The Weathermen killed killed two police officers and a Brinks guard |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Wrong. The Weathermen didn't even exist then. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. Oh brother |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Just because wiki says it doesn't mean it's true. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Oh please do... cause you're thinking about that lady that Clinton pardoned. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it, or something like that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Willfully ignorant. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The two seem to go hand-in-hand. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Different group, numbnuts |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. The Weathermen and later the Weather Underground Organization, was was a violent radical left group |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Just because wiki says it, doesn't mean it's true. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Oh, but did you specify Ayers in your op? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I specified 1970 as the end of the group. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Wrong again. The FBI said the group went underground in the early 70s, did not end. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. The FBI never lies or misrepresents anything. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. But the FBI offered a lot more proof than you did, didn't they. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Definitely. Obama followers support killers. The evidence is all around you. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. The question was rehtorical. Your inability to offer as much proof as the FBI did ..... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Maribelle, the FBI "proof" was all thrown out of court. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I have a feeling that one of two things is true. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. If they're "killers..." |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Unfortunately, the killers got away. The women were mere go-fers. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. self delete. Crabby post. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Will you be leaving right after she steps down or will you |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Are you having a problem staying on topic? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Your topic is specious and based on willfully ignorant half truths. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Are you just making this up as you go along? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. LOL! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
101. Who did Bill Ayers kill, again? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
120. Oh, I see, you have a lower opinion of women than the Weathermen did? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Different people using the same sort of name. |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Didn't they call the police telling them what building they were going to bomb? |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Yes. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
128. Well, that makes it all better then. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. The Weather Underground Killed One Less Person Than Laura Bush's Car. n/t |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. !!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Your attempt to spread facts is appreciated. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank YOU yardwork! :) (n/t) |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Love you cat! She/he looks just like mine! |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. Clinton pardoned two Weathermen |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. They weren't Weathermen. They were a much later group. |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. thanks for the correction... I'll read more when I'm not distracted by real bullets |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. Everyone - thank you for the recs! |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. But Hillary helped GWB kill 4,000 US troops and over a million Iraqis |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Sh! That's not important! Look over there! Weathermen! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
109. Yikes! I see 'em too! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. Timothy McVeigh wouldn't have killed anyone if he had died while building his explosives. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:07 PM Original message |
The Weathermen and Weather Underground were too different groups. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. Thank you for your correction. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You're so naive and intellectually dishonest... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You don't know me. So don't pretend you do. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Your posts tell us everything we need to know. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. The Weathermen didn't intend to kill anybody, as far as I can tell. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Mistakes happen. I'm sure they didn't intend to kill themselves, either. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I doubt that anybody disagrees with that. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
119. What did they intend? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. As far as I can tell, they wanted to end the war in Vietnam. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. I'm sure you're happy that most of them killed themselves in 1970, then. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. I'm not happy to see anyone kill themselves with explosives. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. You seem to feel more strongly angry against the Weathermen than against bushco. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. We're not discussing the BFEE in this thread. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I am. The BFEE is all I discuss on this board. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
43. The end of the group was not when some of their members blew themselves |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. It was the end of the Weathermen and the end of Ayers's involvement. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
55. They were incompetent |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
68. She didnt say they did... she said the bombs killed people and they did. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Who is she? |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
106. Hillary, in the debate, she said "and people died", she did not say that they murdered people. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Who said anything about Hillary? I wasn't talking about her. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Then why did Clinton pardon them? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Thanks Hooligan. Meanwhile the fact that the debate mods |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. the difference is that this guy is unrepentant to this day and the others paid their debt in prison. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. What should he repent? Thinking mean thoughts about the gubmint? |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. there are a whole lot of people that found that offensive. very offensive. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. It's unpatriotic not to question one's government. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #112 |
124. Repent being against the Viet Nam war? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
91. The Weather Underground is bad, but Orlando Bosch is an American hero? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. A moment of sanity. Thank you. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. Noooo!! Smeagol hates nassty facts. We dont want to hear them, no precious..We dont want them to Be! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
103. Bushler killed 4000+ American soldiers and John McCain supports him and will continue his policies. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. A breath of fresh air! |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
108. they are the best source of weather on the internet |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. I know. I can't believe how they're being slandered here. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
118. OH MY GOD!! Photographic evidence that Obama consorts with terrorists. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. LOL! "My grip is stronger than yours." |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
121. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows," |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
123. But Hillary said "people died" and Bill Ayers wrote something on 9/11 isn't that HUGH!!!!! |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
129. Hillary on the other hand was once a republican |
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